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you mean Windows? You can tile macOS windows just fine. But seriously, if MS won't license windows on ARM and you absolutely have to run Windows (poor you), then why would you even care to consider Apple silicon

No, window applications. The little things you drag around.

It was a joke based on the Stage Manager repercussion.
 
Oh I do. They're buying Threadrippers not this overpriced meme

Except we are not. I know dozens of Animation studios that run Mac Pros. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Threadrippers are great for rendering, but 75% of rendering is all GPU based now but actual professionals use Renderfarms That have 1000s of CPUs GPUs - I just rendered a 12 minute animation on a farm and it took about 30 mins ( took longer to download ) - on a maxed out Threadripper it would have been 9 days.
 
That’s the real question. Apple doesn’t have a Mac Pro replacement yet. Dual M2 Ultra is nowhere near enough. We need much better performance.
Look at this and how a Nvidia 1080Ti is almost twice as fast as a 48-GPU-Core M1 Ultra: https://sebastianraschka.com/blog/2022/pytorch-m1-gpu.html

Also this:

A Mac Pro shouldn’t just outperform a 3090 gaming card. They have to face professional cards, like one or multiple RTX8000. Or go even further like Nvidia DGX stations and A100. This is a professional machine competing with Dell, Lenovo, Nvidia and the likes. Marketing this to YouTubers for video work isn’t enough. The price is really irrelevant, as these machines make money. Some of my simple Dell systems are $30k+ for a “usable” configuration, after that the sky is the limit. They could easily start at $10k and then go up to $150k or $200k, as long as they offer similar performance to other systems out there. Above that, I’d like to see proper cluster solutions from Apple.
Yeah, but Apple is consumer-orientated company making consumer products, not made-upon-order supercomputers. Apple was never in this business. What Apple wants is to have Mac Pros sitting proudly on top of the desk of major design studios, video production companies, etc where its logo shines and attracts attention to the brand and rest of its products. RTX 3090 and RTX8000 even if insufficient for some uses are benchmark for performance industry-wide and are regarded as top of line products for the average consumer (professional or non-professional), even if there are more powerful solutions for the most demanding clients, but again, these fall outside Apple business. If Apple Silicon is able to outperform these cards by a small margin, this is enough to get the crown, which is what will add value to the brand.
 
I call it the Meme Pro because everything about it is a meme, and has generated so many memes making fun of it. Some examples are:
  • The absurd base spec price
  • Cheese grater design leading to so many cheese jokes
  • The $700 wheels
  • The $2000 Afterburner Card that became retroware the moment the M1 Pro showed up
  • The price for upgrading
  • The price of the Pro Display XDR that was shown off with it
  • The $1000 monitor stand for the Pro Display XDR
  • The fact the moment Apple Silicon showed up the entire package was becoming even more hilarious
I can go on. This computer was a short term solution to the mistake of the 2013 trash can and it shows by just how much the Apple Silicon Macs are upstaging it in value and real world performance. The Mac Studio only added more fuel to the fire at how redundant this thing this.

Unless for some reason you need over 512gb of RAM, there is absolutely no reason at all to buy this as a professional over the Mac Studio. The sooner we get the Apple Silicon Mac Pro, the better

So:
I’ll give you the Stand - no idea why they didn’t just include it in the price and an option to remove it to lower the cost.
And the Wheels - that’s just crazy.
However:
The $2000 after burner card paid for itself in 3 days. And I’ve been making money with it for 2.5 years.
Apple silicon doesn’t run Bootcamp - I have a windows desktop as well as a mac.
The Studio maxes out at 128gb UNIFIED memory - CPU+GPU. I’ve got 128gb GPU Ram +768mb RAM.
While the Studios are great they don‘t have the direct storage / RAM for for long format video work.
Or PCIE cards like actual pros need.
The XDR monitor is cheap - my last Sony reference monitor was 22K

The very fact you are talking about Memes shows that you have zip all knowledge about pro kit other than benchmarks which are not real work use cases.
 
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Isn’t this comparison on a 2022 chip vs a 2018/19 era chip in the Mac Pro? Maybe a comparison after the Mac Pro gets updated will be interesting.
 
is the MBP faster than the MBA?
When the MacBook Air and 13" MacBook Pro just had the M1 chip, the Pro was only marginally faster than the Air, especially if both had the same number of graphics cores and same amount of unified memory. I suspect it's the same with the M2 equivalents. I remember with the Air, this was a BIG boost compared to its' Intel predecessor (and is one reason why I sprung for an M1 Air last spring.)
 
I feel bad for the people who bought the Intel Mac Pro. At the time, that “Mac Pro needing” audience was dying for an upgrade, and did not know about the silicon Mac transition that was coming just a short time later. But, I’m sure those who needed it are making good use of it.
 
why spend 5000 more when you can get the m2 MacBook Pro? apple has some serious marketing problems that needs to be worked on.
It’s not like anyone needs lots of RAM, lots of storage, or to use specific GPU cards! 😆

We know that the Mac Pro is being superceded by this new generation of machines with Apple Silicon in some use cases. That is to be expected and it part of the reason why Apple is dropping Intel and moving to their own chips. What happens next is the important thing. We are all expecting a new Mac Pro using Apple Silicon to be unveiled in the next few months. That will be a very interesting marketing opportunity for Apple.
 
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