So... They were cannibalizing their own cMBP 2012 the day they released it... Why would it stop them now?
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So... They were cannibalizing their own cMBP 2012 the day they released it... Why would it stop them now?
My modified prediction
Purely speculation of courseWorking from the top.
I dont feel that a refreshed 'new iPad' will be released just a few months into its life. This will be more likely to update with its normal 'yearly' update schedule. Aside from the likelyhood that the 'New iPad' is already selling well, the product has no issues that make a redesign urgent.
New design iMac. Yes, probably on the way but still several months away. Possibly well into the start of 2013. I suggest that along with the Mac Mini, the current design will get a minor spec bump to refresh the current line and keep it current until the new design (in the case of the iMac) is ready. This will also strengthen the launch of ML by including it with a hardware release (however minor).
iPad mini would make sense sooner rather than later to combat small tablets (Nexus 7 etc) ready for the holiday rush. So sometime in October or November makes sense.
iPhone 5. Not much needs to be said about that, we all pretty much know that its coming in the next few months and will launch with IOS6
13" Retina MBP. I cant see how this product would do anything other than take sales away from the 15" MBP and recently updated Air models. Possibly later in the year along with the iMac redesign? Not at all convinced about this product however. If Apple release a 13" Retina, my thoughts are that it will be the Air, not the MBP
New iPod Touch and Nano models would only make sense at the same time as the iPhone 5 or after, but not before. My feelings are that they will both not only take design cues from the iPhone 5 but in the case of the iPod will also come with iOS6 at launch. Perhaps the Nano will also feature some iOS6 integration due to its reported redesign.
Just my thoughts on the report
- Will soon see how right/wrong I am of course 
Apple is nothing if not a marketing genius. By giving a hi-res IPS display a cute catchy name like "retina" then hyping it beyond anything they ever hyped, everyone feels like they must have it.
Retina... Enables Apple to elevate their pricing & lure the great majority of buyers into high end, expensive computers, when the laptop business in general is enjoying more value and competitive pricing than ever.
It's no wonder the Apple War Chest is overflowing with the cash that Apple needs to attack & destroy the competition by having products blocked, preventing them from competing in the market place.
Retina... Enables Apple to elevate their pricing & lure the great majority of buyers into high end, expensive computers, when the laptop business in general is enjoying more value and competitive pricing than ever.
It's no wonder the Apple War Chest is overflowing with the cash that Apple needs to attack & destroy the competition by having products blocked, preventing them from competing in the market place.
While I would have agreed with you a few years back (and I also love the mini, I've had almost every other generation), I'm not so worried now. The Ivy Bridge iMac is also still not out and it's certainly not the end of the road for that. Plus they just optimized the design and finally (since the ancient G4 days) brought the discrete GPU back as well as offering a quad-core mini! I don't see them stopping after gaining so much momentum. Even if sales are low, it offers an easy way into the Mac platform.
If they do discontinue it, however, I'm going to buy myself another one on the refurb store in a shot
Since when is the Mac Mini not a Mac?
Regarding iMacs, has Apple done this before, i.e. do a spec bump, then 2-3 months later, release the proper, long-waited upgrade? I can't think of any reason why they'd do this now if that was the plan, they could've done Ivy Bridge months ago, then had a 6-month gap until redesign. I sincerely hope there isn't a second 2012 upgrade that dicks everyone.
Mobile GPUs still exist in the real world and not on some fantasy alternate plane of existence.
Since when is the Mac Mini not a Mac?
Regarding iMacs, has Apple done this before, i.e. do a spec bump, then 2-3 months later, release the proper, long-waited upgrade? I can't think of any reason why they'd do this now if that was the plan, they could've done Ivy Bridge months ago, then had a 6-month gap until redesign. I sincerely hope there isn't a second 2012 upgrade that dicks everyone.
I dont get your point about the Mac Mini not being a Mac?
I do agree about your point about there not being 2 iMac updates in 2012, that's why I think a redesign would be more likely well into 2013 with a refresh of the current model tomorrow along with ML.
When was the last time that Apple announced anything that wasn't available immediately? Doesn't make sense from Apple's history, doesn't make business sense, doesn't make any sense.
I believe the adage, "you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't all the people all the time," is applicable here.
It is more complicated than that. Remember Acorn teamed up with Apple to for their education programme. And ARM is doing OK these days.
As for schools, the current iMacs won't be out of date. Our design school (at a UK university) won't be replacing all the 2010 and 2011 iMacs they have... although given Ive studied there we should get a big discount.
I think yours is more realistic than the one in the main article. I don't know about the July updates, but in terms of the iPhone 5/iPod releases, it makes no sense to me that they'd release a new iPod BEFORE an iPhone 5. When has that been the case since the first Touch was released? So, good call there...
Well, its just all speculation... The July updates are simply formed from 'Hopeful Thinking' though lol
Exactly. But you were right to situate the iPhone and iPod releases at the same time. I looked at your chart and thought: ya, this could work! It would be nice to see iMacs a little earlier...maybe on Mountain Lion release day! Plus, the Mini would do well with a USB 3.0 port or two.
I'm actually struggling a bit, because my dad is about to lay out some cash on a new 13" MBP and I'm meant to help him install his solid state hard drive when I visit next month. I'm now wondering if the retina version will be out in a matter of a couple months instead of about 9-ish.
A tweak makes no sense that late in the year.
They should just wait until February or whenever they have iPad 4 scheduled. I just don't see the wisdom in a tweak that might only last 4-5 months.
Besides that the power usage in the current iPad mostly goes to driving the display. Apple would need a new display or more efficient LEDs to significantly lower power usage.
They should just wait until February or whenever they have iPad 4 scheduled. I just don't see the wisdom in a tweak that might only last 4-5 months.
Besides that the power usage in the current iPad mostly goes to driving the display. Apple would need a new display or more efficient LEDs to significantly lower power usage.
Just had my 7 month old iMacs screen replaced because of "lamination" issues causing dust to pool between the LCD matrix and backlight.
Hopefully they will fix this with the next gen
lol, cheers - I think a 13" retina MBP would have made more sense than the 15 when it was launched. It would probably have been a better machine too because the GPU would likely not have been so stressed. Difficult to know what to do isnt it. Im ready to buy a 27" iMac but really dont know what to do... I need it for work :/
That is he question I have also, the iMac can die for all I care.
I was actually hoping this week but let's face it the rumor mill has been completely silent. Further I'm not so much hoping for a Mini as a replacement that is a bit more capable. I really hope the idea of an affordable desktop Apple machine isn't dead. Oh before anybody says anything the iMac isnt acceptable.
I know the Mini has seen declining sales but I attribute that to Apples inability to configure a marketable model.
I was actually hoping this week but let's face it the rumor mill has been completely silent. Further I'm not so much hoping for a Mini as a replacement that is a bit more capable. I really hope the idea of an affordable desktop Apple machine isn't dead. Oh before anybody says anything the iMac isnt acceptable.
I know the Mini has seen declining sales but I attribute that to Apples inability to configure a marketable model.
I believe we'll see the 13" rMBP before christmas, so I might wait for it as I think they will actually put a dedicated GPU in it to further separete it from the Air. Now with 28 nm GPUs they have started to deliver crazy power with moderate heat so I can see them fitting it in.
I might just get a 13" MBA to last me until October or whenever the 13" rMBP is released and just sell it then.
I might just get a 13" MBA to last me until October or whenever the 13" rMBP is released and just sell it then.
Hi Andy,
It would make sense to launch these two together. One could be the announcement and the other would be the "one more thing"
Well, first of all, Apple can't release an rMBA because the Airs don't have enough space for a bigger battery and a fatter display.
Second, I agree that a 13" rMBP could take away sales from the 13" MBA. But it will definitely completely kill off the 13" MBP. Which is as Apple planned it: it's clear they did nothing except the absolute minimum to disguise that the 13" was a dying product that happened to bring in loads of cash. Exchange the motherboard for IVB ? Sure, now we're updating everything to IVB. we can do that at the same time. Update the display or anything else ? No way. Easy money while the engineering resources are focused on the real follow-up: the 13" rMBP.
I expect the 13" MBP without retina to continue existing until the sales numbers don't make it worthwhile anymore, which could be as early as Q1 2013. The product line will then be a 13" MBA starting at 1280 and the 13" rMBP starting from possibly 1600 (8GB/256GB). The 15" MBP will continue in retina and non-retina versions as it does at the moment.
Peter.
It would make sense to launch these two together. One could be the announcement and the other would be the "one more thing"
Well, first of all, Apple can't release an rMBA because the Airs don't have enough space for a bigger battery and a fatter display.
Second, I agree that a 13" rMBP could take away sales from the 13" MBA. But it will definitely completely kill off the 13" MBP. Which is as Apple planned it: it's clear they did nothing except the absolute minimum to disguise that the 13" was a dying product that happened to bring in loads of cash. Exchange the motherboard for IVB ? Sure, now we're updating everything to IVB. we can do that at the same time. Update the display or anything else ? No way. Easy money while the engineering resources are focused on the real follow-up: the 13" rMBP.
I expect the 13" MBP without retina to continue existing until the sales numbers don't make it worthwhile anymore, which could be as early as Q1 2013. The product line will then be a 13" MBA starting at 1280 and the 13" rMBP starting from possibly 1600 (8GB/256GB). The 15" MBP will continue in retina and non-retina versions as it does at the moment.
Peter.
Pretty accurate? The 2013 date came right from the horses mouth.
Really Apple flat out said the Mac Pro gets redesigned in 2013. Did somebody mis this?
Really Apple flat out said the Mac Pro gets redesigned in 2013. Did somebody mis this?
And still no Pro's? I guess the 2013 date looks pretty accurate now. I love my iMac, it's the main workhorse but it's max spec, and my logical upgrade is to a NEW Pro. I won't be moved either..Ivy-Bridge, yes that's pretty obvious, and I'm not surprised he doesn't commit himself to retina...How much would an equivalent retina 27" cost me?
Hi,
Hype, as in: nobody needs it ?
This reminds me of: "Nobody will ever need more than 640KB !"
Or, when I was shopping for an additional hard drive for my first PC, I was wondering: "Hard drives of 750MB ? What on earth can you do with that ? What's next, a freaking GIGABYTE ?"
Today's hype is tomorrow's pedestrian.
Peter.
Hype, as in: nobody needs it ?
This reminds me of: "Nobody will ever need more than 640KB !"
Or, when I was shopping for an additional hard drive for my first PC, I was wondering: "Hard drives of 750MB ? What on earth can you do with that ? What's next, a freaking GIGABYTE ?"
Today's hype is tomorrow's pedestrian.
Peter.