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Funny how most people think MBPs and Mac Pros are expensive. I remember the days where I paid $3500 for a PowerBook or $6500 for a PowerMac. I personally todays stuff is dirt cheap.

Go Romney!
 
The Add, 500 or 750 rpm. sloooooooow HD.

Next they will be adding floppy drives
$1199 for the 500 hd and $1499 for the 750 hd. The title mention that the retina starts at roughly $1699. Something doesn't add up. It also says "Current pricing on non-Retina 13-inch MacBook Pro" on the bottom of the ad but whatever. :/
 
This is why I hope that if they offer retina for imac that it will be optional...Just way too expensive...
 
Don't forget, they've got to cover the cost of the solder used on the RAM and SSD.

The initial cost plus Apple Tax must make it about $100.
 
Don't forget, they've got to cover the cost of the solder used on the RAM and SSD.

The initial cost plus Apple Tax must make it about $100.

What about the glue???
 
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People, you are not comparing Apples to Apples! The 13" not only will have a a retina display but also a SSD drive. This is not overpriced! There is also a difference in SSD drives! You can buy cheap piece of crap SSD drives or good ones. Apple is actually using the fastest SSD drives available in the 15" model.

Good point, but most likely irrelevant to the typical 13" MBP customer. I personally have not gone to SSD yet. However, some friends have. It is amazing the difference in performance between manufacturers.

I just don't see a 13" rMBP Power User. 15" is easy to see. :apple:
 
Funny how most people think MBPs and Mac Pros are expensive. I remember the days where I paid $3500 for a PowerBook or $6500 for a PowerMac. I personally todays stuff is dirt cheap.

Go Romney!

Apple has more competition these day's though. I mean Google is going to launch a 32GB Nexus 7 for the same price as the 16GB model at the end of the month. So if they launch an iPad Mini it will have to face good priced 32GB options from Amazon AND Google.
The same with computers but some have approached the same prising as Apple like Alienware, although it targets a specific market, the are high prices.
 
LOL

The Note 2 and Window 8. Somehow I think Apple will survive.

Surface Pro and the Note 2 are better options to me than iPad 3 and iPhone 5 for the following reasons:

- Note 2: bigger screen, Wacom pen (it's not a stylus! it's a real digitizer pen used by designers and artists).

- Surface Pro: runs standard PC applications in an almost tablet form factor. I would also use it as my desktop at work (currently I use a white Macbook with 8GB ram; Surface Pro has a faster i5 and SSD storage).

If a Note-like phoblet supports Win8 Pro/Ubuntu/OSX someday, it'll be the ultimate all-in-one gadget to me.
 
R: Student's parents.

I'm a student and I pay for my Apple stuff myself by working summer jobs. I was planning on buying a retina model IF it were priced correctly. But this just blows my mind away. I'm really starting to get angry with Apple, same story with the iPhone 5 I was planning on buying it but 700euros for a 16gb model is ridiculous.
 
Surface Pro and the Note 2 are better options to me than iPad 3 and iPhone 5 for the following reasons:

- Note 2: bigger screen, Wacom pen (it's not a stylus! it's a real digitizer pen used by designers and artists).

- Surface Pro: runs standard PC applications in an almost tablet form factor. I would also use it as my desktop at work (currently I use a white Macbook with 8GB ram; Surface Pro has a faster i5 and SSD storage).

If a Note-like phoblet supports Win8 Pro/Ubuntu/OSX someday, it'll be the ultimate all-in-one gadget to me.

ur choice disgusts me :eek:
 
You theory is flawed.

maybe. I wouldn't saw flawed, though. It's just a different way of looking at it than you're taking. We'll find out Tuesday… maybe we're both wrong.

however:

The gap for the 13" is going to be higher for two reasons. One the SSD versus HDD. Two, soldered RAM probably it is going to be an 4 versus 8 issue between the two. Couple a substantially higher cost display ( laminated/fused and Retina ) along with increased battery component costs and it is an "apples to oranges" comparison.

But the SSD, soldered RAM, display and battery differences exist in the 15" cMBP to rMBP comparison, too. Actually, the marginal cost of going retina, along with increased battery to drive the pixels, are *less* with the 13"

Furthermore, Apple has already used $1699-1799 price range for a 13" laptop before during the first couple of years of the MBA. Just like the 're-use' of the MBP 17" range these are sitting there open. If your "evidence" is what Apple has done in the past ... they have done almost exactly this before.

Yup. Your evidence is legit, too. We just don't know which scenario is more relevant here.

Apple is more likely going to price this under the MBP 15" ( $1799 entry point ) and above the top of the 13" entry point ($1499 top point ).

Maybe. But notice that the retina MBP ($2200) starts at *the same* as the top of the cMBP offerings. ($2200).

We'll see, if the 13 rMBP is really $1699, I think it will have a quad-core (and possibly dGPU) differentiating it from the similarly spec'd 13" MBP. But I could be wrong.

Enjoying the discussion. :)
 
Makes me somewhat glad I bought a Lenovo X230T instead. i7-3520M ivy-bridge, HD4000, thinkpad keyboard, IPS screen, pressure sensitive digitizer, 16gb ram, 512gb SSD for less than $1800 including tax and shipping.

Then again, the X230T is an ugly beast, and I'm stuck in the hell known as Windows for now. Oh well, it's what you do with the machine that matters.
 
rMBP 15" is already 1559£ on amazon.co.uk ! I've been waiting for a long time to get 13", but no bloody way I am gonna pay 1499£ ( judging from apple $to£ ridiculous rate it will cost that much in UK) ! Too expensive ! enough said !
And for what ? intel HD 4000 ?? when for 59£ more I can GeForce 650m and retina !
Love apple products and design but this is taking a piss !
 
Funny how most people think MBPs and Mac Pros are expensive. I remember the days where I paid $3500 for a PowerBook or $6500 for a PowerMac. I personally todays stuff is dirt cheap.

Go Romney!

Kid, do you know what year it is?

Do you still think a 1gb hard drive should be $1000 and gas should be $1.10?

People who compare to prices from DECADES ago are obviously not all there. He confirmed this with his political bias. So funny.

:rolleyes:
 
I'm a student and I pay for my Apple stuff myself by working summer jobs. I was planning on buying a retina model IF it were priced correctly. But this just blows my mind away. I'm really starting to get angry with Apple, same story with the iPhone 5 I was planning on buying it but 700euros for a 16gb model is ridiculous.
No one else is pushing the design boundary like they are. Someone has to foot the bill.

Kid, do you know what year it is?

Do you still think a 1gb hard drive should be $1000 and gas should be $1.10?

People who compare to prices from DECADES ago are obviously not all there. [snipped unnecessary personal political comment]
He still has a point. I bought a 12" PowerBook in '05 (this millennia and less than a decade ago) and it was $2500. Today's electronics are dirt cheap compared to what they used to be. People are bickering over a few hundred bucks, it used to be thousands!
 
No one else is pushing the design boundary like they are. Someone has to foot the bill.

Yup they sure make it thinner. The Bill will be footed thats for sure, they probably could charge $2999 for this thing and sell a crap ton. Oh well, good for them I guess.
 
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Surface Pro and the Note 2 are better options to me than iPad 3 and iPhone 5 for the following reasons:

- Note 2: bigger screen, Wacom pen (it's not a stylus! it's a real digitizer pen used by designers and artists).

- Surface Pro: runs standard PC applications in an almost tablet form factor. I would also use it as my desktop at work (currently I use a white Macbook with 8GB ram; Surface Pro has a faster i5 and SSD storage).

If a Note-like phoblet supports Win8 Pro/Ubuntu/OSX someday, it'll be the ultimate all-in-one gadget to me.

It's the digitizer and ability to run Adobe CS apps that made me decide on the Lenovo X230T. I agree, the Surface Pro is intriguing to me, and I sincerely hope they don't shaft the artists by not including touch-sensitive digitizer support.
 
Yeah that's the reason a corporation is in business, to subsidize its customers. :rolleyes: You must come from the Obama school of thought.

I hate to say this but bringing up the current president when replying to someone is a bit rude. Why dont we just bring up all past presidents when we need to make a statement. It seems a bit ridiculous to me. But whatever, just as living in America grants us the freedom of speech, you are entitled to your opinion as am I.
 
He still has a point. I bought a 12" PowerBook in '05 (this millennia and less than a decade ago) and it was $2500. Today's electronics are dirt cheap compared to what they used to be. People are bickering over a few hundred bucks, it used to be thousands!

Prices may not have gone up, but neither have our wages.
 
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