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If that's all you think there is to the new design you haven't seen the teardowns.

Seen em. Seen the glue and soldered stuff cause they are worried about a few mm. Ive clearly does use hallucinogens. Bought into the same stuff Steve believed. It's the integration and solid OS that draw people far more than making it thinner for the sake of marketing material.

You might be in awe of it, I am not. It's preference.
 
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Apple hasn't even announced the pricing yet, and people are already up in arms? Of any type of rumor, pricing is generally the most unreliable due to last minute decisions and changes. Lets at least wait til next Wednesday to lose our minds... :rolleyes:
 
...er, then dont buy one? the question here was why rMBPs are more $$ than non. this is the pro line. air and even non-R pros are still options for you until the retina displays become cheap.

dude, yes we are not going to buy. Wait and see the sales numbers - if only apple disclose them.

the problem is, Apple is already talking about replacing the MBP completely with rMBP next year.
 
People that are complaining about the price premium are missing something important. The price premium is not because of the retina display, but because the retina version starts out with more expensive options and doesn't come in a "cheaper version". I suspect this is largely because Apple can't build the retina screens fast enough yet, so they are just targeting the high end.

If you go to the Apple online store and outfit a non-Retina MacBook Pro with the same specs as the $2199 retina version, you will see that the non-retina version is actually $200 more expensive!
 
One of two things is going on here (IMO of course):

1) The price is incorrect. Even with a retina display and SSD, if there is only a minor spec bump (CPU, GPU) over the 2011 13" MBP then that price is way too high.

2) (I'm thinking this option) The 13" MBP is getting a major spec overhaul. I believe it will be getting quad core CPU and discrete graphics as well as retina and SSD. This makes sense because more than ever they have to separate this from the MBA line. The 13" will finally be worthy of the Pro name. MBA will be the new student notebook.

Hopefully #2 happens, and the 13" becomes the notebook many have dreamed of having!
 
One of two things is going on here (IMO of course):

1) The price is incorrect. Even with a retina display and SSD, if there is only a minor spec bump (CPU, GPU) over the 2011 13" MBP then that price is way too high.

2) (I'm thinking this option) The 13" MBP is getting a major spec overhaul. I believe it will be getting quad core CPU and discrete graphics as well as retina and SSD. This makes sense because more than ever they have to separate this from the MBA line. The 13" will finally be worthy of the Pro name. MBA will be the new student notebook.

Hopefully #2 happens, and the 13" becomes the notebook many have dreamed of having!

While I do realize that rumors should be taken with a grain of salt, all the reports and stuff mentioned thus far seem to point to a minor spec bump in the CPU at best. It's likely going to only have integrated graphics.

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not worth it.. unless it has GTX 460M

I'm not sure current designs can handle (and adequately cool) anything like that. Your best best would be the something like an Asus G55 or a Lenovo Y480.
 
Just waiting for the same information about the iMac


I sold my 27 earlier this year and shelled out over 2g's for a retina 15, if the new imac is awesome....i may have to pull the trigger on that too. The most key feature for me is thunderbolt in so it doubles as a cinema display, thatd kill two birds with one stone.
 
Excuse me?

;) I do not know how these guys are doing their math, but by this calculation a 13" retina would demand a significant price premium.

The low-end 15" retina is EXACTLY the same price as asked for the top end 15" non-retina, standard MBP. Ergo, $1,500 for a low-end 13" retina; same price as their 13" standard top-end model.

Not the "entry-level" retina at a base price of $1,699. What the hell? Presumably more than a few others have noticed this discrepancy as well.
 
Apple hasn't even announced the pricing yet, and people are already up in arms? Of any type of rumor, pricing is generally the most unreliable due to last minute decisions and changes. Lets at least wait til next Wednesday to lose our minds... :rolleyes:

You can wait till Wednesday, but I'll find out Tuesday.

;)
 
At that price it better have these specs in addition to retina:

SSD 256 minimum (the new Samsung 840 Pro, user upgradeable)
8 GB Ram on board + free slot
User replaceable battery
1xTB, 2xUSB3.0, Firewire 800, ethernet, SD card slot, (or include adapters in the box)
GTX 680M and ability to switch to HD4000 when performance not needed

Dreaming
 
Damn. If Apple still made them, I wonder how much the 17'' MacBook Pro with "retina" display would cost.
...and how thin it would be. It used to be dictated by the optical drive and the HDD/SSD, but since the Retina models have proprietary SSD and no optical, the 17" could've been made even thinner than the 15". The 17" MacBook Air. Ahh, good thing I still have my 17". I'll use it until it disintegrates, then I'll reluctantly move to a dinky 15".
 
Way too much especially with so few apps and websites even supporting the higher res


In a few years when devs catch up to the crazy high resolution then it will be worth it


But honestly, the res on the MacBook Air 13' is sufficient
 
;) I do not know how these guys are doing their math, but by this calculation a 13" retina would demand a significant price premium.

The low-end 15" retina is EXACTLY the same price as asked for the top end 15" non-retina, standard MBP. Ergo, $1,500 for a low-end 13" retina; same price as their 13" standard top-end model.

Not the "entry-level" retina at a base price of $1,699. What the hell? Presumably more than a few others have noticed this discrepancy as well.
I don't disagree with you, but the 15in MBP and 15in rMBP are almost spec for spec (quad-core i7, 8GB of RAM, discrete GPU). Perhaps that won't be the case for the 13in? Example being: the 13in rMBP having a quad-core CPU or a discrete GPU. That would certainly warrant the $200 price difference.
 
daft. less is more.

next we'll be billed more for white keys.

if that's all the update is – it's an update.

apple's got lost with keeping top spec meaning bumping price up. it will peak when folks realise tech doesn't rise, tech is tech, progress is progress, will the second hand market move to the current retail price...?

enjoy it while it lasts apple.
 
I dunno, maybe we aren't all wanting to edit HD video on a 13" notebook perhaps?

That's not the point, I mean wtf is the point in spending all that money on something that can't do all tasks. Play games, edit video etc! Might as well get a retina ipad and bluetooth keyboard!!! I dunno
 
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