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13" Macbook Pro Isn't A Pro

Is the 13" Macbook Pro a real Pro?

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As a front-end developer, even the 17" is too small for me to get work done on so why choose the largest laptop? A 13" and external display will do just about as well as a 17" with external display and save thousands of dollars.

The 9400M is quite a bit faster than the X1600 that was in the Macbook Pros a few years ago, which was already plenty fast for everything but new games. Perhaps it's not "Pro" if you're a pro gamer. The 9400M will do great in Aperture, Photoshop, and most else you throw at it.

The display panel in the 13" (and 15"/17") is fantastic and is better than my first-gen Unibody 15" MBP.

All 3 are great machines. I own a 13" MBP at home and a 15" MBP at work and I prefer the 13".

I dont see any reason for any of them to be called "Pro" to begin with. If you need a "pro" laptop to make yourself feel like a "pro" then go ahead. You could give me a base Macbook or base Mac Mini and I would make just as awesome work as on a 17" Macbook Pro. The person is the pro, not the computer :)
 
in fact, i really don't care about the name of my machine

they can call it MB or MBP, i'm really happy with it

7 hours, no fan noise, a really fast machine...


13" MBP... what else ? ;) :) George would agree with me :D
 
JonHimself said:
The problem is that it's subjective. I've seen a sound guy recording a live concert using the 13" mbp and a friend's band just recorded an album where the 13" mbp was the main station of the DAW (hooked up to a monitor)... none of which had anything to do with the 9400M.
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Exactly! Not everyone buys a mac for video editing or 3d rendering. At the end of the day, adding the word "Pro" is :apple: marketing spin, nothing else
 
mbtalle said:
On another note, I purchased a refurb 13" uMB last week for $400-500 less than a 13" MBP... I refused to pay that extra money over one word.
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Ok you refuse to pay the extra for the pro and in some ways I dont blame you...but no mattter which way you look at it... the 13" uMBP is still a better machine, which I add was also cheaper than the older uMB when it first came out.
 
JonHimself said:
I think the problem is that everyone's definition of "Pro" is different. One time someone paid me several hundred dollars to take photos at an anniversary and I used my iBook G4 to edit the photos that I then had printed for them. Technically, that would make me a 'professional' in that I was paid money for a job and I used that machine do accomplish it.
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Don't make me laugh. Something does not become "Pro" simply because you've used it on a paid job LOL. Is your coffee mug now a "Pro" mug because you were at work when you used it? :rolleyes:

In the end it's all Marketing BS, but the "Pro" moniker should only be applied to products that can be fully utilized at the highest levels in a given field. Lets take the Mac Pro for example. It uses expensive Registered ECC server memory. Your average Joe doesn't give a crap about that, but high-end scientific, medical, and research users *DO*. Therfore, the Mac Pro should not be called a "Pro" without this important feature.

The same goes for Firewire 800. Firewire is the defacto standard in pro level audio/video recording & editing. Nobody uses USB devices for that except at the very low end. Therefore, any "Pro" device must include Firewire 800.

Again, the feature set behind a "Pro" moniker should cater to the very high-end crowd in a particular field, with the best and fastest available interfaces, highest quality displays, etc.

By this logic, all MBP's should have an ExpressCard slot to allow its users to add whatever other interfaces they may need. Removing the ExpressCard slot is a step backwards.
 
Wotan31 said:
Don't make me laugh. Something does not become "Pro" simply because you've used it on a paid job LOL. Is your coffee mug now a "Pro" mug because you were at work when you used it? :rolleyes:

In the end it's all Marketing BS, but the "Pro" moniker should only be applied to products that can be fully utilized at the highest levels in a given field...

By this logic, all MBP's should have an ExpressCard slot to allow its users to add whatever other interfaces they may need. Removing the ExpressCard slot is a step backwards.
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What makes me laugh is that (to me) it seems like you think your definition of the pro machine is any more valid than mine. (Again, that's just the way it came across to me). I was more making a joke that a Pro machine doesn't make a person a professional and that non-Pro machines are likely used by professionals in their field. Of course I'm not actually "Pro" photographer, but technically - by definition - on that day I was a professional photographer in that I got paid. The Pro really means a ton of different things and in the case of Apple laptops, to me, it doesn't really have anything to do with the specs of the machine or how people use it.
 
Fuchal said:
I dont see any reason for any of them to be called "Pro" to begin with. If you need a "pro" laptop to make yourself feel like a "pro" then go ahead. You could give me a base Macbook or base Mac Mini and I would make awesome work just on a 17" Macbook Pro. The person is the pro, not the computer :)
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Look at all the backlash coming because the 13" is labled "Pro". Now multiply it by 1000x and that's the backlash you'd get if Apple had dropped the "Pro" from the 15" and 17" models. Seriously, though, people, it's just a ***** name. They could have called it the Intel Mac Portable and we'd have bought it (and complained about it "the original Mac Portable was better").
 
 
I've got a low end 15inch Uni-MBP (Express card slot) and I consider it a Pro because it is WAYYYYY better than my old upgraded mid 2007 Black MacBook.


Yes, I consider the 13 inch MBP a "Pro."
 
isn't shambo the same guy who assumes people buys the 13" mbp because they could not afford the 15" and the 17"?

obvious troll is obvious :rolleyes:
 
macchiato2009 said:
in fact, i really don't care about the name of my machine

they can call it MB or MBP, i'm really happy with it

7 hours, no fan noise, a really fast machine...


13" MBP... what else ? ;) :) George would agree with me :D
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Most pointless thread of the week. I expected more from you, shambo... although I'm not surprised looking at some of the thread's you've already contrinbuted to these forums (https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=17652375).
 
13" Pro makes sense for me somehow but when I look at another angle, it doesn't. What makes sense is design, battery life, ports etc. but specs doesn't. IMO, they should drop 13" and entry level 15" from "Pro line" and maybe rename the white MacBook. The reason Apple added "Pro" to 13" was to make it sell better. Consumers thinks it's better and faster and buy it because of that, it's just sells.
 
shambo said:
So I was in the Apple Store again yesterday and whilst looking around the different versions of the notebooks it suddenly struck me that, with all things considered, the 13" Macbook Pro isn't really a 'Pro'. It doesn't look or feel very Pro-like especially when you consider the lower spec, tiny screen size, and larger bezel. It really strikes home when you see all the 13", 15", and 17" laid out side-by-side on display. I really think by upgrading the 13" name to 'Macbook Pro' Apple are doing a grave injustice to all the customers who could afford and purchased the real Pros'.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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Some people do. Some people don't. As someone who owns a 13 inch unibody MacBook Pro I do not feel the same. But why do you care how others feel. You don't like it. Isn't that all that matters?
 
shambo said:
I really think by upgrading the 13" name to 'Macbook Pro' Apple are doing a grave injustice to all the customers who could afford and purchased the real Pros'.
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So you have to have a name to make you feel special about being able to purchase expensive machines?
 
Each person will describe what they see as a "pro" machine differently. This can be argued until the cows come home.

Who cares about the title? Just buy the computer that suits your needs best and leave it at that.
 
gibbz said:
So you have to have a name to make you feel special about being able to purchase expensive machines?
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haha I completely skipped over the "grave injustice" line in the original post. If you were wrongly convicted of a crime and had to serve jail time I would say that the person suffered a grave injustice... owning a 15" mbp and being lumped in with 13" mbp owners, not so much.
 
Professionals don't care what their computers are called.
Insecure people do.

Nuff said.
 
why is it that we think the only pros out there are ones who deal with graphic work and therefore need a discrete GPU?

there are different levels of pros out there. some do graphics work, some use it for business, some use it to run their stores, some uses it for inventory tracking.

the point is every pro is not a graphics designer and we need to get away from that stereotype. there are many "Pros" who need some aspects and not others.

a small company who is using OSX as their inventory control and the Point of sale machine, why do they need a dedicated GPU and why do they need a 15" screen for that matter. they dont. a high end 13" will do the job and be affordable enough to use. if they were forced to pay for the GPU and the 15" screen even though they dont need it, they may not have chosen OSX as their system.


OP: it seems to me that you have defined yourself and who you are in this world based on your 15" macbook pro. it seems that the introduction of the 13" has turned your world upside down and is threatening your man hood.
i say that because for the last 2 months you have done nothing but bash the 13" pro and anyone who has bought one. You have attacked and insulted by telling them they only bought the 13" because they were too poor to buy a 15"

when it is all said and done this is a computer, and "pro" is only a name. a name that apple uses as a marketing tool. so many of you have come to identify with that monicker that your world was rocked when they included the 13"

if your machine does what you need who cares if it is called a macbook pro or a macbook amature.
i dont care and neither should any of you
 
shambo said:
So I was in the Apple Store again yesterday and whilst looking around the different versions of the notebooks it suddenly struck me that, with all things considered, the 13" Macbook Pro isn't really a 'Pro'. It doesn't look or feel very Pro-like especially when you consider the lower spec, tiny screen size, and larger bezel. It really strikes home when you see all the 13", 15", and 17" laid out side-by-side on display. I really think by upgrading the 13" name to 'Macbook Pro' Apple are doing a grave injustice to all the customers who could afford and purchased the real Pros'.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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If I follow your logic right then assuming I bought the most powerful MBP (17"), then apple are doing a grave injustice to me because a lot more people spend less money to purchase a 15" which is a inferior product (I quote "It doesn't look or feel very Pro-like especially when you consider the lower spec, tiny screen size, and larger bezel") to the 17", and they still get a 'Pro' ticker.

If that's the case then you should be happier with 3 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT LINES which will probably confuse the consumer:

17" being the Macbook Pro
15" being the Macbook Semi/half-baked/crippled-Pro
13" being the Macbook.

a reason apple is using Pro across all three models is to reduce confusion, as they share similar designs; you can choose one as per your liking and budget.

It's a bit like cars. You can add extras like ipod docks, air conditioning, retractable roof, electric windows etc. If I follow your logic again, if I were to get a car with every single extra then the company is doing a grave injustice to me and people could buy the same car for a lot less for less features.

This thread is a complete joke. If you feel so strongly about the pro name then complain to steve jobs.
 
I believe that the real "Pro" Machines are the ones with the removable batteries and the 3/4 express card slot and dual GPUs
 
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