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13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

Which connector is your new unibody Macbook pro

  • Sata I - 1.5Gbit

    Votes: 218 69.6%

  • Sata II - 3.0Gbit

    Votes: 95 30.4%
  • Total voters
    313
aleksandra. said:
Yes, I'm serious. Fine, it's discounted, but nonetheless 2.66 you can buy now is worse than 2.66 you would have gotten two weeks ago. Same goes for 2.53. It's not a huge difference in performance, but the point is, they're using worse CPUs across their range than they used to.
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Each CPU in the previous line has been speed bumped. That's like saying the new 13" MBP CPUs are a downgrade because the low-end 2.27 GHz is worse than the previous high-end 2.4 GHz.

arn said:
thanks for the heads up guys. am about to hop on a plane so will have to research it more when I get back home.

arn
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Good news.
 
HFU said:
Hmm... interesting. We also need someone with 13" UMB or 15" pre-SD UMBP to read the Host Bridge revision for comparison.

According to iFixit from late 2008 13" UMP, the MCP79 Host Bridge seemed to be revision B2.
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Revision B2 was also on the 2008's.

I highly doubt this is a hardware issue. The hardware is all capable of 3. Somewhere in firmware Apple changed something.
 
Great catch and thread guys! Kudos on your works. As someone interested in purchasing the new PRO's this is absolutely vital info.

The only problem I'm having now is that I AM STUNNED THAT A 20 PAGE THREAD IS NOT THE LEAD STORY. Stunned!

This is a HUGE deal. What is going on here? None have picked this up yet: Giz, Engadget, TUAW, even Digg...
 
If a battery life comparison can get front page, this can. I'm very curious to see who gets it first, it would impress me. Hope it's not engadget or some other non-mac specialty source.
 
iMacmatician said:
Each CPU in the previous line has been speed bumped. That's like saying the new 13" MBP CPUs are a downgrade because the low-end 2.27 GHz is worse than the previous high-end 2.4 GHz.
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It is another way of looking at it, I suppose. Although I find it unlikely that "same money buys you same cache, but more clock speed", which effectively happened from this point of view, is the way to go.

What I meant was rather that Apple quite often pushes components "down the line", so to speak, and in the case of CPUs in 15" it *seems* to have happened - but it didn't, and people could easily cheat themselves. That's why I think it's only fair to point it out to them. Most people would assume it's better, because it's newer, and many wouldn't even look at specs long enough to understand them.
 
Another question guys;

Can somebody just gives some examples of how the SATA speed may enhance the SSD. I mean examples of everyday work, please? I just don't understand all the fuss. I have searched but couldn't find anything (the answer i found here was not very informative). Thanks
 
u49aa2 said:
Another question guys;

Can somebody just gives some examples of how the SATA speed may enhance the SSD. I mean examples of everyday work, please? I just don't understand all the fuss. I have searched but couldn't find anything (the answer i found here was not very informative). Thanks
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Turn a bottle of coke upside down. The Cola liquid is the SSD, the narrow portion is the SATA 1.

You will notice differences when moving large files, boot up, etc....
 
aleksandra. said:
It is another way of looking at it, I suppose. Although I find it unlikely that "same money buys you same cache, but more clock speed", which effectively happened from this point of view, is the way to go.

What I meant was rather that Apple quite often pushes components "down the line", so to speak, and in the case of CPUs in 15" it *seems* to have happened - but it didn't, and people could easily cheat themselves. That's why I think it's only fair to point it out to them. Most people would assume it's better, because it's newer, and many wouldn't even look at specs long enough to understand them.
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That is a good point. I have also noticed that while MacBook (and Pro) CPU speed has steadily increased over the years, they are actually using lower- and lower-end CPUs relative to Intel's notebook CPU lineup.

CoffeeWarrior said:
Turn a bottle of coke upside down. The Cola liquid is the SSD, the narrow portion is the SATA 1.

You will notice differences when moving large files, boot up, etc....
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What a great explanation!
 
Well now I am happy to be using my 2.93 with 3.0GBPS transfer speed, this is ridiculous, people are getting ripped off on everything lately.
No expresscard, now they pull this?
 
assisterah said:
I just talked to an Apple engineer and he told me this was not a firmware/software issue. He refused to use the word "degrade" to address this problem and used the word "efficiency improvement" as an explanation. He implied me that this was a confidential information that Apple would not want to share to anybody...
How sad is that!
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Write to apple about how sad you think it is here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html everyone.

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This has to be front page news. If there is no official word from Apple on this matter next week, I'll be returning it asap. Is this issue limited to the 13 inch pro ?
 
ant043 said:
This has to be front page news. If there is no official word from Apple on this matter next week, I'll be returning it asap. Is this issue limited to the 13 inch pro ?
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No, it looks like it's an issue with the 13" and also the 15". Amazingly, the Air and white MacBook both have SATA 2 controllers.
 
i really don't think it's worth it to return or not buy the new 13" or 15" mbp because of this problem. despite having the cap, you still see some of the major benefits of ssd if you choose to install one (lighter component, no noise, faster boot/app loading). as disappointed as i am about the cap, i absolutely love this machine. i've been on the search for the perfect laptop for over a year now (i've owned the white mb, msi wind, asus 1000h, macbook air rev a, 2.4 umb, 2.4 umbp) and can tell you that this is close to perfect (minus the sata issue). I too am hoping for a simple firmware update as the hardware should obviously support it, but even if there isn't a solution and apple really did decide to downgrade the sata interface, i think the benefits of this new 13" mbp outweigh that small issue.
 
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