13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

[Philflow]

Sorry, don't believe me if you want.

It's not about believing or not believing. I'm only interested in hard data.

Thanks for supplying those benchmarks.

So the one on the left is at SATA I speed, the right SATA II speed?
On the same laptop?
If so, how did you switch between SATA I and II?

 

[analytical44]

Why isn't this on the front page yet?

I think it's a little more important than a new seed of Snow Leopard or AT&T selling out their initial batch of iPhone 3Gs pre-orders.

+1

 

[gotzero]

I think I'll hold on to my un-downgraded MBP and wait for Apple to realize the error of their ways before I get that 13" MBP I originally wanted. Besides the FW port, the very last uni-MB's with upgraded displays look like a good deal, especially with them being discounted.

I am now holding off too. I was planning to pop an Intel SSD in there, and that seems like a waste at this point... I would like to get a computer for a 18 to 24 month horizon and it seems pretty likely that the other SSDs will be more than catching up to Intel by then.

 

[aleksandra.]

Why isn't this on the front page yet?

I think it's a little more important than a new seed of Snow Leopard or AT&T selling out their initial batch of iPhone 3Gs pre-orders.

Agreed. Along with pointing out a degraded CPU in MBP (2.53 and 2.66 now have only 3MB L2 cache). People should know what they're buying - especially if it's worse than previous revision.

 

[Frosties]

Submit Mac news on frontpage

Seriously. I second that motion.

https://www.macrumors.com/site.php?mode=submit

 

[dukebound85]

Agreed. Along with pointing out a degraded CPU in MBP (2.53 and 2.66 now have only 3MB L2 cache). People should know what they're buying - especially if it's worse than previous revision.

the cpu specs are LISTED right on the TECH PAGE

if you dont like it, then dont buy it. but it is advertised in black an white......they just dont tell you what the previous gen was

 

[daneoni]

Currently at the Apple just looked at all models and only the MBA, whitebook and 17"MBP have 3.0Gb...everything else is 1.5

1. 15" 2.8
2. 13" 2.53
3. MBA 2.13
4. 15" 2.53
5. MBA 1.86

 

[daneoni]

more...15" 2.66 & 17" 2.8

 

[zsnow]

Currently at the Apple just looked at all models and only the MBA, whitebook and 17"MBP have 3.0Gb...everything else is 1.5

if apple intent to cap the sata for battery life and heating, they should do it first on the air. As another guy said it's might the new new SD slot cause some hardware design change.

 

[NC MacGuy]

Currently at the Apple just looked at all models and only the MBA, whitebook and 17"MBP have 3.0Gb...everything else is 1.5

So as Phil asked, what makes a MBPro a Pro? It would seem only three letters.

 

[joelones]

the cpu specs are LISTED right on the TECH PAGE

if you dont like it, then dont buy it. but it is advertised in black an white......they just dont tell you what the previous gen was

In most cases I think the average user is comfortable with the altered L2 cache. However, nowhere did the tech specs mention a Sata I bus - I know I checked.

 

[kellen]

What is the speed on earlier MB and MBP's?

My penryn early 2008 (model right before unibody) shows up as 1.5 under system profiler.

 

[maratus]

Agreed. Along with pointing out a degraded CPU in MBP (2.53 and 2.66 now have only 3MB L2 cache). People should know what they're buying - especially if it's worse than previous revision.

Are you serious?

              New             Old
1700$:    3Mb 2.53Ghz      Nothing       
2000$:    3Mb 2.66Ghz      3Mb 2.4Ghz  
2300$:    6Mb 2.8Ghz       6Mb 2.66Ghz

Downgrade?

 

[aleksandra.]

the cpu specs are LISTED right on the TECH PAGE

if you dont like it, then dont buy it. but it is advertised in black an white......they just dont tell you what the previous gen was

It's from Apple site I got this values. Really. And I never intended to buy a MBP. But until yesterday, I thought it was obvious that whatever new Macs where, they were surely better (if only marginally) than previous revision. And not everyone will study specs, especially if they already knew they would have been happy with original uMBP. I think it's only fair to inform people of a downgrade, especially when Apple advertises it as an upgrade. They may not lie outright, but they say it's "better". And in some ways it's not.

 

[AboveTheChaos]

Change Thread Title?

Since it seems this isn't limited to the 13", maybe the name of this thread should be changed so others will read it.

 

[iMacmatician]

Oh, that we knew all along. Pro is (secretly) short for Prosumer, not Professional, as far as MacBooks are concerned. The Mac Pro still deserves the professional badge, though.

Agreed. It's been that way for a while.

Just throwing this odd idea out there, FWIW... it's not part of some power saving scheme, like the 9400/9600 toggling?

That's a good thought.

I will eat my foot if Apple ships a custom 3.0Gbps-enable firmware for users that purchase an SSD from them. Not gonna happen.

3.0 Gb/s SATA Enabler for $49.99 here we come.

Are you serious?

              New             Old
1700$:    3Mb 2.53Ghz      Nothing       
2000$:    3Mb 2.66Ghz      3Mb 2.4Ghz  
2300$:    6Mb 2.8Ghz       6Mb 2.66Ghz

Downgrade?

Beat me to it. If anything it's an increase since the new high-end 15" MBP is $2299 (not $2499), so for $2599 one can get the 3.07 GHz CPU (+400 MHz instead of the +133 MHz the Intel CPUs have improved since the small March MBP update).

 

[analytical44]

Question, I haven't read every post so I apologize if it's already been addressed. Do the uMBs have 1.5gb or 3gb?

 

[Frosties]

Question, I haven't read every post so I apologize if it's already been addressed. Do the uMBs have 1.5gb or 3gb?

3

 

[Philflow]

Question, I haven't read every post so I apologize if it's already been addressed. Do the uMBs have 1.5gb or 3gb?

3Gb.

Edit: Frosties beat me to it.

 

[daneoni]

Question, I haven't read every post so I apologize if it's already been addressed. Do the uMBs have 1.5gb or 3gb?

3

 

[Frosties]

3Gb.

Edit: Frosties beat me to it.

 

[aleksandra.]

Are you serious?

              New             Old
1700$:    3Mb 2.53Ghz      Nothing       
2000$:    3Mb 2.66Ghz      3Mb 2.4Ghz  
2300$:    6Mb 2.8Ghz       6Mb 2.66Ghz

Downgrade?

Yes, I'm serious. Fine, it's discounted, but nonetheless 2.66 you can buy now is worse than 2.66 you would have gotten two weeks ago. Same goes for 2.53. It's not a huge difference in performance, but the point is, they're using worse CPUs across their range than they used to.

 

[dukebound85]

Question, I haven't read every post so I apologize if it's already been addressed. Do the uMBs have 1.5gb or 3gb?

thats kinda the whole point of this thread. if it were the same, no one would really be complaining

Yes, I'm serious. Fine, it's discounted, but nonetheless 2.66 you can buy now is worse than 2.66 you would have gotten two weeks ago. Same goes for 2.53. It's not a huge difference in performance, but the point is, they're using worse CPUs across their range than they used to.

but its cheaper. maybe thats a factor that brought the price down

 

[analytical44]

3

Thanks. This is really disappointing...

 

[arn]

thanks for the heads up guys. am about to hop on a plane so will have to research it more when I get back home.

arn