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13" rMBP - 4,096,000 pixels, $1700-2000, INTEGRATED GRAPHICS?!?
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And then in few months or a year, they come out with a new 13in with dedicated GPU.
Same thing what they did with the new iPad.
People buy iPad 3rd gen and in FEW months, 4th gen comes out lol
Actually I'm quite happy with the 27".
All their GPUs are great (not just adequate), and with the BTO options it's really a good (incredibly sleek) machine.
I'm not gonna complain since I can play Diablo 3 comfortably at 2370 x 1480 on my rMBP. It's not native resolution, but it's close enough.
But I didn't get the machine with Diablo 3 in mind. I wanted something that can display iPad Simulator in portrait mode. Aside from the rMBP 15" running at scaled resolutions, there is no other laptop I know of that can do that.
I was waiting to get the 13" rMBP to be mobile at the same time plug into three external displays (similar the to the 15" rMBP). Now that specs have been revealed, and it features integrated graphics, would it still work seamlessly if I were to connect to three external displays or that might be an issue?
You should be able to connect to 3 displays via 2 TB and 1 HDMI. As far as performance, we won't know until it gets into the hands of testers and consumers. There will probably be an answer soon.
This is the reason I've been waiting for the 27"...
I have an old MBPro 15" and xCode is painfully slow plus the interface builder section is a pain to use with low resolution, I'm done with laptops, I was waiting for a desktop mac, the fact that the minis don't get a discreet GPUs take them out for me since I'm looking to dev a couple of openCL codes and be able to test them with multiple processing units in concurrence. The 27" it'll probably be then, good screen surface, good GPU, still serviceable RAM, the only interrogation point will be the hard drive, whether Apple fusion is worth it or to go full SSD inside and buy an external TB-RAID enclosure.
All in all I think this is all pretty good new for the mac pro crowd too...
We can see the mini is going to be restricted to iGPU in the future, the iMac new form factor show they'll continue making the sleek machine in the future but probably making it full BTO and non-serviceable even in the 27", leaving the Mac Pro (and certainly the accompanying TB-Display) for the Pro ^^.
A bit over-played that... 'Any form of 3d' ? Go to youtube and do a search for game tests on the HD4000 - Most last generation games should run perfectly fine (Crysis 2, Skyrim etc). Also, most WebGL (in-browser 3D) should run smoothly in Google Chrome.
As a balance of features, I think the rMBP 13 isn't bad - but certainly on the expensive side... but we're talking Apple here, so hardly a shock.
It will play games just as well as the non-retina 13" model with the same resolution (1280x800). Don't see any big deal here. A dedicated GPU like a 630M/640M would be nice of course, but there will be technical reason's why it wouldn't fit there (cooling, battery size, space).
P.S. For aroudn $1500, the retina 13" would be an ok deal, but not with the current pricing and a meagre 128Gb SSD :/
P.S. For aroudn $1500, the retina 13" would be an ok deal, but not with the current pricing and a meagre 128Gb SSD :/
If you can spend 1500, you should be able to spend 1700 too...
If you can't spend 1700, you shouldn't be spending 1500 in the first place.
Just my 2 cents.
As much as it pains me to say it, I think some of the Windows crowd/PC magazines are going to have a field day with the 13" rMBP from the perspective of Apple over- pricing their kit versus the actual spec of the laptop.
Still can't figure out what the target market for the 13" rMBP is, other than slavish adherents. Will Pros really want it with this spec.? Form factor aside, there is nothing I like about this machine. And as soon as I see one in the Apple Store I am bound to (completely irrationally) want one.
Still can't figure out what the target market for the 13" rMBP is, other than slavish adherents. Will Pros really want it with this spec.? Form factor aside, there is nothing I like about this machine. And as soon as I see one in the Apple Store I am bound to (completely irrationally) want one.
I'm very surprised at the 128 SSD. For that price, I think average consumers are simply going to see the 128 not the SSD part and walk away.
Well, yeah. To an entirely different market.
I priced my "acceptable" 13rMBP at about $2500.
Can't settle for anything less than 512gb storage.This ain't gonna happen. Love the engineering and build quality but Apple has finally priced itself out of my wallet. Time to move on from this Elitist company. (It was a nice ride
).Your idea of "perfectly fine" might differ from mine.
The HD4000 is the best iGPU ever - but that says very little. Crysis 2 and Skyrim would have to be played on the lowest settings AND the lowest resolution (I.e. look like crap) and would still probably chug along at a barely playable 20-30 FPS.
For the price - $1600-2000+++ - and considering the number of pixels (4m+) a dedicated graphics card is really necessary to make this feel like a premium machine. From a graphical perspective, you are getting the same utter garbage you find in $300 laptops.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. To me, when you put a garbage graphics card into a premium laptop, what you are left with is basically garbage.
I already put my money where my mouth is and went out last night and bought a 15" rMBP. It is truly a premium computer, and worth it's $2300 price tag.
Psst.... it's not made for gamers, or 3D modelers.
For simple photo editing, web surfing, emailing, document writing, etc, the Intel 4K can easily push the Retina display. I have my 15" hard-set to only use the Intel chip, and it pushes 2880x1800 perfectly.
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Those sound like excuses.
A premium machine, at a premium price, should have this premium feature. It is found in a lot of lesser machines. They should have at least had it available as an option.
It would be like BMW deciding that the 5-series should only be powered by the base 2.0L turbo4 engine. The 5-series is not a race car, so why should BMW provide the option of a V8? (Hint- because it's a premium car, being sold to people with deep pockets, and those people want it).
Yes. And just because it doesn't serve your needs doesn't mean it doesn't serve someone's needs. People will buy this because they like the display. If you don't play Crysis 2 or Skyrim, then you might not care about the HD4000. People who like the Air but want a better display and are willing to accept a little more weight and thickness may be drawn to the rMBP now.
As for BMW, note that in Europe you can get a 5-series with a 4-cylinder engine. It won't win any drag races but it is still a nice ride. Actually "on paper," BMWs often appear under-specced. GM used to run commercials bragging about how some Pontiac costing 1/3 as much as a BMW had a faster engine or better suspension system. Well, GM went bankrupt and BMW didn't.
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Where did $1499 come from? The rumor mill pegged $1699 quite a while ago. $1699 is an OK price point considering where comparable MacBook Airs fall (an 11" i7 with 8GB/128GB is $1349). I wouldn't be surprised to see upgrade prices go down over time, though.
mostly came from fantasy land, i was saying since the release of the 15" either there would be no 13" rMBP or it would be the cost of a base 15 cMBP.
people here were expecting all the specs of the 15 rMBP and pay $800 less just because of the 2" less in screen size.
*dreamers