13 RMBP sucks

[PatriotInvasion]

I mean, you can get a 13" laptop from Dell for $600. Sure it's a Dell, and it has a HDD instead of an SSD, and battery life is like 1/2 the rMBP, it's thicker, but it's also 1/3 the price. Somehow I don't think it costs Apple $1200 for a higher-res screen, battery, and small SSD.

Ahh, yea and you're also stuck with Windows and 12 months of McAfee Virus Scan. Sounds sweet.

Everyone wants to compare price with Windows PC's and Macs and completely leave out the fact that they don't run the same OS. OS X is a premium operating system, with excellent included software, and is much less susceptible to adware, spyware, and viruses. You also get a clean machine without the bloatware and "Intel Inside" stickers all over the place.

$600 Dell laptops are cheap, poorly constructed, and have horrible resale value after a few years. Keep in mind that your $1,600 rMBP will still be worth more than that Dell in 3 years and you can sell it for something new.

 

[chrise2]

Ahh, yea and you're also stuck with Windows and 12 months of McAfee Virus Scan. Sounds sweet.

Everyone wants to compare price with Windows PC's and Macs and completely leave out the fact that they don't run the same OS. OS X is a premium operating system, with excellent included software, and is much less susceptible to adware, spyware, and viruses. You also get a clean machine without the bloatware and "Intel Inside" stickers all over the place.

$600 Dell laptops are cheap, poorly constructed, and have horrible resale value after a few years. Keep in mind that your $1,600 rMBP will still be worth more than that Dell in 3 years and you can sell it for something new.

And if you get the nice Dell laptops, they cost almost as much as Apple. I got a Dell XPS 13" before the retina mb pro and I loved it. It was a great machine for Windows and cost $1600 or something like that. Same HD4000 graphics, i7 proc and 8 GB RAM. Very non-retina display. Had a way better warranty though. Accidental damage coverage is the bomb.

 

[Orlandoech]

Yeah and using the same logic anyone who gets a rmbp and gets an LG display with image retention is also "dumb". Because hey, they should have researched the whole thing better... not apple's fault you got an LG with image retention, you could have gotten a Samsung screen if you did your homework!
****** logic.

Again your logic is flawed. Apple only needs to legally give specs, not brands of which they use to make their products.

Your homework as a consumer is to know the specs and if it meets your needs. Not who makes what inside the laptop or does Apple legally have to give this info.

 

[ybz90]

The 13' base model Retina macbook pro is ****, i had it for 10 days and the HD4000 is terrible, you cannot do anything serious on it and yet it costs around 2k with taxes.


I am going to refund this piece of **** and grab the 15' model, quad-core i7 for
only 300$ more.

People with the 13' model are ripped off.

If you hate it, just return it. No need to burst a vein or anything. No one forced you to buy it.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

$600 Dell laptops are cheap, poorly constructed, and have horrible resale value after a few years. Keep in mind that your $1,600 rMBP will still be worth more than that Dell in 3 years and you can sell it for something new.

I'm not commenting on the rest of your post, for the most part, I agree, although it's hardly as bad as you make it out to be. However:

I bought my Dell for under $1000 and sold it last week for $550. My Macbook Air was $1550 and I don't think I could get $1000 for it, even though it's technically newer.

Sure the $900 or so I could sell it for is more than the $550 I sold my Dell for, but the dell took less of a hit than the air did.

 

[waxfinger]

Returned it and bought a 15' model.

This bad boy is a beast compared to the 13' model.

13' was really bad, but i really liked the form factor of it

 

[KPOM]

Returned it and bought a 15' model.

This bad boy is a beast compared to the 13' model.

13' was really bad, but i really liked the form factor of it

I'm sure the 15" is nice, but I don't agree with your assessment of the 13" rMBP. I don't play games, and I don't do video editing, but the 13" rMBP handles everything I throw at it, including running Windows in a virtual machine and some light photo editing. I don't benchmark FPS when viewing websites. Scrolling can be a tad jerky, but seems fine with the nightly webkit builds so I'm guessing that this will improve with 10.8.3.

Hopefully Haswell and the HD4600 will improve matters for people who do need better graphics power. I also think we'll see a significant price cut in 2013 on both the 13" and 15" models, if the discounting going on by resellers is any indication.

 

[Poisonivy326]

Apple has this weird thing about making their more portable machine really underspecced compared to the next most portable machine in their lineup. It's a weird thing, but it's a pattern.

11" MBA - 64 GB SSD (come on that's a joke), not even an SD card slot

13" uMBP - 500 GB HDD, 4 GB RAM, i5 processor, no discrete graphics (granted HD and RAM can be DIY replaced but ...)

13" rMBP - 128 GB SSD (um, sorry, I consider that to be a joke on a $1700 machine), i5 processor, integrated graphics again

In other words the 11" MBA base is underspecced big time compared to the 13" MBA base, the 13" uMBP also underspecced compared to its 15" counterpart, and the 13" rmbp follows this "Apple tradition." Strangely it even applies to the 21.5" vs. 27" imacs.