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I would love to replace my Mid '15 15"MBP with a smaller unit but the lack of i7 or i9 option without paying a 15" MBP price makes little sense. Besides, my DSLR's use USB cables and a dongle seems to be so last decade.
 
That's what two leakers are saying. There is no way around it, if ARM Macs are coming in 2021 they need to be announced at WWDC so that the Developers have enough time to adapt their applications. I suspect we'll even see some developers only ARM hardware. Either a MacBook or more likely a MacOS for ARM to install on the iPad Pro. If you look at the invite for WWDC2020 it has the same "hello" as the original Macintosh launch or the 2005 PowerPC to Intel transition, the Apple logo is cut in half with two colours. I am no Marketing guy but this looks pretty obvious nonetheless.

I agree on all but one point. I don't think Apple will use an iPad Pro. Many will be wary of the switch to Arm, and Apple need to make it clear it will still be macOS, so need to keep the operating systems as far apart as they are now. The message needs to be it will be a processor switch, not a compromise of what macOS is all about. I think the Developer Transition System will be a computer, maybe a new 12" MacBook that is crazily thin, but just as powerful as we are used to with existing systems. Either that or a Mac Nano that is more powerful than a Mini.
 
For some who has to buy 2020 Air vs 2020 13" Pro; it's too late. Apple should have just released 14.1" so it would have been clear differetiator between Air and Pro.
 
I would love to replace my Mid '15 15"MBP with a smaller unit but the lack of i7 or i9 option without paying a 15" MBP price makes little sense. Besides, my DSLR's use USB cables and a dongle seems to be so last decade.

Just find the right cable...it only becomes an issue if you have a proprietary connector on the the body of the DSLR. I have two USB-C to USB-A dongles for such inconveniences. Otherwise, I have simply replaced all my USB-A cables at minimal cost. Not sure what the problem is...fashion-conscious or do you need to get work done? Pick one.
 
Yeah. Be more like Samsung where you release a product that breaks within a day, then look like idiots and start from scratch instead of taking your time to begin with.

What? No. That's a total strawman. There's ample middle ground between 4+ year unchangeable devices with forgettable spec bumps and flimsy annual pies in the sky.

Apple is taking WAY too much time when it comes to Mac hardware and product design, the iMac being an glaring (but out of topic) case. And conversely, I wish they took more time to begin with when it comes to OS development instead of releasing crapware like iOS 13 and Catalina that almost take another full year of updates to work as intended.
 
I'll bet the 12in Macbook was a manufacturing trial run at making the form factor for an ARM offering.
Yep and that’s my guess for the 14” too as in why the redesign is coming next year instead of this year.
With the power restraints for laptops running Intel chips hot and slow, i see no reason to think that Apple CPU’s will not best Intel in every single metric. Granted for desktops that’s a different ball game, but Intel mobile devices such as laptops have never been the optimal tool for the job other than for portability and being about the only game in town.
Case in point Apple‘s Chromebook Air. (to which Intel sat on their laurels because of their monopoly.)
 
I would love to replace my Mid '15 15"MBP with a smaller unit but the lack of i7 or i9 option without paying a 15" MBP price makes little sense. Besides, my DSLR's use USB cables and a dongle seems to be so last decade.
I have the same '15 i7 and love it but when I got the 16" MBP this year, the dongles issue is another ball of wax.

I now switched my DSLR camera from using cable to using NFC/Bluetooth to download photos everytime I take a pix....
No more cables between the camera and Macbook.
 
I’m so torn right now... buy the currently refreshed rMBP 13 2020 or wait one year for the new 14 MacBook Pro? I’m still using the rMBP from 2015 and it’s still going strong, however I just wished Apple would have introduced the 14 inch right now. What’s for sure is that I’m not going to buy an Arm processor MacBook, as I cannot wait for the devs to port their apps to the arm platform. Hopefully they will use the new Ryzen processors next year 🤞

I was in the same boat and decided to order now. For me, it came down to the keyboard. I've already had to replace my butterfly keyboard twice, and I'm not experiencing a sticky key again on my third keyboard. I just couldn't wait another year. The extra screen doesn't seem that significant to me, at least compared to the benefit of having a keyboard that works!
 
So you want keys that you actually never use? As opposed to software switchable, context sensitive keys? You do know you can change the settins to have the TouchBar set to the old school keys that you love so much

really so tired of this lame argument. None of the haterbois ever seem to make a coherent explanation of why they don’t want it. Maybe that would help. It just seems like yet another sponsored falsenarrative

The keys that you use may not be the same keys that others use. If you like TouchBar that’s great for you, but don’t **** on the way that other people use their keyboard.
 
I would only want a 14 if the overall size stays the same. I don't want to be carrying around anything bigger than my 13. I have to carry it with me all day. I am honestly not sure of the benefits of an ARM CPU vs intel. I am using it for graphics. I have the 13 with the fastest i7
 
14" makes lot of sense to me. When they updated the Air the screen remained 13" but the overall form factor shrunk. It works on a desk but not on my lap - too small. Moving to 14" with reduced bezel goes back to the old case size which was close to perfect.
 
What? No. That's a total strawman. There's ample middle ground between 4+ year unchangeable devices with forgettable spec bumps and flimsy annual pies in the sky.

Apple is taking WAY too much time when it comes to Mac hardware and product design, the iMac being an glaring (but out of topic) case. And conversely, I wish they took more time to begin with when it comes to OS development instead of releasing crapware like iOS 13 and Catalina that almost take another full year of updates to work as intended.

The MacBook Pro is on a 4 year cycle as far as industrial design as has been for quite a while. Apple only moved early on the 16” MacBook Pro because there were so many deficiencies that had tainted the MBP 15” that Apple just did away with it to save face without “fixing” the 15” version.

I suspect that there was supposed to be an iMac update in there somewhere, but with decreasing desktops sales and the focus on iPads, iPhone and mobile Macs, there just isn’t a good enough reason to spend time on a redesign until now. That being said, expect the next iMac ID to last another 10 years.

I do agree that OS dev needs to slow down, because having to be a beta tester on Catalina and iOS 13 for the past 8 months has pain a real PITA.
 
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Now that Jony Ive is "gone", I can't wait to see what Apple does next.

I might have to keep limping on my 2011 hardware until next year. Ten years is a nice round number.

I'm actually excited to see if Apple is going to surprise and delight me this decade, 'cause the last one was rough although hope was rekindled at the end of it.
 
Now that Jony Ive is "gone", I can't wait to see what Apple does next.

I might have to keep limping on my 2011 hardware until next year. Ten years is a nice round number.

I'm actually excited to see if Apple is going to surprise and delight me this decade, 'cause the last one was rough although hope was rekindled at the end of it.

Back to plastic. Beige for desktops, black for laptops (I still have a Pismo somewhere).
 
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It seem that Apple can't get product launch date right on schedule anymore. Technically, the 14” MBP is not a huge change in physical size and won't need one year time to release it.
 
Back to plastic. Beige for desktops, black for laptops.

I would not mind an homage to NeXT industrial design in the next couple of of years. I do miss the “Snow” designs like the Apple IIc, IIgs, IIci and a Quadra 700, but I don’t want new designs based on them. Thankfully, I don’t think Apple would ever entertain that suggestion anyways.
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It seem that Apple can't get product launch date right on schedule anymore. Technically, the 14” MBP is not a huge change in physical size and won't need one year time to release it.

Other than it wasn’t supposed to ship this year, regardless...and the rumors were WRONG, because they are RUMORS, but I digress.
 
Beginning to wonder if certain people on these forums know the definition of the word RUMOR.

Stating that Apple doesn’t have its act together and should have already shipped the 14” shows how many just don’t get it, get Apple or understand how product cycles work.
 
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Tiger lake, dGPU option, faster RAM, faster display, 14 inch and I’ll be seriously tempted.
 
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