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I think the 14 will negatively affect both the 13 and 15" MBP sales. Perhaps if Apple eliminates the 13" MBP this might work but I'm not sure.

The 13" is nicely sized and very mobile. The 15" is a bigger and offers more screen real estate. The 14" seems like a compromise on both and you lose out on more portability (bigger then the 13") and larger screen (smaller then the 15")

Just my opinion. I've owned 14" laptops before and they're not bad but I like what Apple has and it seems to work. Just my $.02

Not if they make they keep the same form factor as the 13" CMBP and just minimize the bezel to maximize the screen size while using the same body.

So you will have the exact dimensions as the cMBP 13".

Apple needs a machine that is user upgradeable. 2.5" hard drives aren't going anywhere anytime soon and how about 204 pin ram?

Whats a "Pro" machine when you can't upgrade it?

I think apple will keep some type of cMBP model as replacement for the white macbook.

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A 14" Macbook air would have been nice.

Yes it would!

I also think apple should release a new cMBP type macbook in black anodized aluminum like the iphone5/ipad mini.

They are releasing the Mac Pro in black and I think a newly upgraded slightly thicker USER upgradeable cMBP type model in black will be a hit with consumers. cMBP is still the number #1 selling mac. Why discontinue something that still has potential. Give it a facelift. re-market it. Give it user upgradeable features. Make it quad-core. give it 2.5" hard drive or even 1.8". keep 204 pin upgradeable ram with more than 2 slots for up to 32GB ram.

How many of you guys would buy a 14" black anodized macbook pro with these features?
 
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Apple needs a machine that is user upgradeable.
No, they don't. Have you even paid any attention to the computer industry as a whole for the past ten years? The game used to be modularity. Now it's all about integration, with modularity all but thrown out of the window.

In 2003, full-size ATX motherboards were still the norm. microATX was gaining steam, mini-ITX were mostly for embedded systems like POS terminals, and VIA's nano-ITX form factors were more obscure than mainstream.

Ten years later, even microATX is too big, as you can stuff a full 95W TDP IvB into a mini-ITX board for a lean and mean gaming machine. The likes of Arduinos and Raspberry Pi's took over the smaller-than-mini-ITX market. ATX? Unless you love expansion or a hardcore gamer, you need not apply - and those people would have gone towards E-ATX anyways.

HP and Dell portable workstations used to have 16:10 displays. They're both going 16:9 now, so Apple became one of the last few vendors nowadays that continue to sell 16:10 laptops... and Apple doesn't use workstation GPUs in their laptops.

In ten years, Apple killed off XServe and exited the server game; put more money towards the mobile space than they did for traditional desktop/laptop markets; killed off the iBook/MacBook lines, and killed off the 17" MBP.

Ten years ago it was completely unheard of that a company with NO laptop computer building experience would put out an ultra-portable gaming machine that doesn't weigh over eight pounds fully loaded. Now we have Razer going into the business and show the likes of MSI and Dell how it's done.
Whats a "Pro" machine when you can't upgrade it?
If you're going to upgrade the GPUs, why not go the whole nine yards and replace the entire system as well?
I think apple will keep some type of cMBP model as replacement for the white macbook.
When I saw the MBPR came out last year, I knew the days of the cMBP are numbered. Right now the cMBP remains the only Mac in Apple's product lineup that retains the ODD. The iMac went towards a slimmed-down pyramid, the new "trashcan" Mac Pros don't have room for one, both the Air and Retina's tossed 'em out, and even the Mac mini nixed it.
Give it a facelift. re-market it. Give it user upgradeable features. Make it quad-core. give it 2.5" hard drive or even 1.8". keep 204 pin upgradeable ram with more than 2 slots for up to 32GB ram.
All in a 14" cMBP? No way.

If this gives you a clue: SSDs do not need to retain the same physical 2.5" format as HDDs without sacrificing performance.
 
She suggested to have either 12, 14 and 19, so 15 would be gone! 19 as a replacement for 15 is way to big, 14 would be going back as the middle size would be smaller than the current 15
 
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Bezel size is not a technical limitation, but a conscious design choice on the part of Apple's design team. They like to have room for the camera and magnets in the bezel, and also like it to be tapered toward the edges to make it appear and feel thinner than it is. Look at the original Titanium PowerBook, well over a decade old, and had a much thinner bezel than any of Apple's current notebooks.

Read my post again. I said:

Eliminating the bezel completely is technically impossible

Never talked about reducing bezel size.

People keep dreaming about this kind of stuff:
iphone-6-3.jpg

(source)
which is indeed technically impossible with today's tech.

I'm just trying to maintain expectations at a realistic level.
 
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No way! Going backwards is not a good idea, more like 14, 16 and 18-19 inches

You will love it.

19" is an iMac.

The current size options are fine.

Yes, but if it should be changed; this is my suggestion.

How did you get that from Hildegard's post? 11" to 12". 13" to 14". And 15" to 19" apparently. Where is there a reduction of the 15"?

Exactly.

He suggested to have either 12, 14 and 19, so 15 would be gone! 19 as a replacement for 15 is way to big, 14 would be going back as the middle size would be smaller than the current 15

Do you think I look like a man?

12" PowerBooks were the best!!

I'd go for that 12, 14, and 19

Yes, they were!! And thanks.
 
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Read my post again. I said:

Eliminating the bezel completely is technically impossible

Never talked about reducing bezel size.

People keep dreaming about this kind of stuff:
iphone-6-3.jpg

(source)
which is indeed technically impossible with today's tech.

I'm just trying to maintain expectations at a realistic level.

It's possible with today's tech. Look with what's being created with OLED.

Apple will eventually move on to OLED instead of LED.
 
How do you know?

Apple's specs on the width of the rMBPs, this image, and a bit of pixel math.

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It's possible with today's tech. Look with what's being created with OLED.

Apple will eventually move on to OLED instead of LED.

A true edge to edge glass screen like that would be very easy to crack I would think, much better to have at least the edges protected.
 
I think the OP is onto something revolutionary here.

Also, double clicking the power button will bring out Megatron sounds and transform the display into 32”. It will be SIRI capable and can double boot Playstation 4 and XBox One OS (triple boot). Oh, and one more thing, we will finally have a Facebook Homescreen and stream all the Big Brother and Jersey Shore episodes we want for free.
 
People are too focused on the screen when the true limitation is the body.

You shrink the bezel, you'll have even less volume in the body for components. People act like Apple engineers are clueless. They know what they're doing.
 
The 19" is for the pros and those who needs more screen real estate.

How many pros will be willing to buy a massive laptop that is barely mobile? I mean iMacs are 21.5" if a pro needs that much screen real estate they're better off with the iMac then a 19" MBP.

From what I remember a 17" MBP could barely fit on a airplane tray, I'd say the ability to use the 19" in many situations would be an exercise in frustration
 
How many pros will be willing to buy a massive laptop that is barely mobile? I mean iMacs are 21.5" if a pro needs that much screen real estate they're better off with the iMac then a 19" MBP.

From what I remember a 17" MBP could barely fit on a airplane tray, I'd say the ability to use the 19" in many situations would be an exercise in frustration

Yes, I agree, the only way I forsee it is if they reduce the bezel to fit a 19 inch in the body of the 17 inch MBP
 
How many pros will be willing to buy a massive laptop that is barely mobile? I mean iMacs are 21.5" if a pro needs that much screen real estate they're better off with the iMac then a 19" MBP.

From what I remember a 17" MBP could barely fit on a airplane tray, I'd say the ability to use the 19" in many situations would be an exercise in frustration

It will not be that much heavier than the now discontinued 17".
 
Would you like a 14.1" Macbook?

It seems that the retina MacBook Pros and the retinaMBP are cannibalising each others' sales and doesn't suit the streamlined product line Apple always had.

May be it would be a good idea to do away with the cMBP 13" and 15" and make a classic 14.1" with matte option for the huge China market where 14.1 inch laptop dominates?

Just random thoughts, please don't flame me XP
 
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