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a Resolution Independent OS such as the upcoming OSX 10.5 allows you to scale the whole use interface. More pixels per inch will make it looks sharper while retaining the same size (so you don't have to squint on a 160 ppi screen). The other thing you can do is scale everything to make it bigger or smaller. I can't wait to be able to resize the menu bar to... say... 50% of the current size. And toolbars and buttons and scrollbIars etc...

I use the little green zoom button a lot to get windows in sizes that make sense (damn you Firefox!, I will ditch you as soon as I have leopard where Safari has instant search) and expose to make good use of my Macbook's screen. It has the same horizontal resolution as my 19" Dell Screen at work which looks ridiculous next to the Macbook with it's sharp and colorful glossy display. I wish 200 ppi was standard... Maybe the next Cinema Displays and Macbook Pros that ship with Leopard? Please, Apple!
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Hmm.. If I wanted a 15.4" laptop, I would get the pro. This rumour seems obscure. Why can't it go the other way? A 13.3" MBP :cool:
 
Hmm.. If I wanted a 15.4" laptop, I would get the pro. This rumour seems obscure. Why can't it go the other way? A 13.3" MBP :cool:

Here here! I second that. a smaller MacBook Pro is what will "fill out" the lineup, not this 15.4 Macbook nonsense. Bring on the 12" widescreen ultraportable MBP!!!! That is the only thing that could replace my 12" Powerbook.
 
...whizz-bang features like the illuminated keyboard and other masturbate-worthy perks.

For the record:

whiz-bang also whizz-bang (noun) - One that is conspicuously effective, successful, or skillful: a whiz-bang of a speech.
(origin) From whizzbang, a shell (i.e., Ammunition consisting of a cylindrical metal casing containing an explosive charge and a projectile; fired from a large gun) used in World War I that was heard only an instant before landing and exploding


So, if whizz-bang were to become a euphemism for masturbation, then in a sense, the word will have 'come full circle'—which, is not the same as a 'circle jerk'.
 
thats what expose is for. many windows is the need for a very nice GUI software, and thats what apple has put out. i would take a small mac over a big PC anyday... you know how much of a pain it is to minimize 7 windows everytime i want to see the desktop on a windows comp.

i dont think you quite know what im getting at. with your logic no one would ever need a larger screen because of expose. pray tell why apple sells 30 in monitors when according to you everybody would be fine with a 13 in screen and expose lol
 
The standard MacBook screen is too small for me (bad eyes). The 15 would be nice, but I would be interested in a MacBook Pro, not sure how popular a MacBook 15.4 would be.
 
For what it's worth, the GMA3000 has only just started appearing (personally I haven't even seen that many laptops using it yet, just a few Gateway desktops). From the tone of your post, it makes it sound like Apple is dropping the ball by still using the GMA950, and I don't think that's really fair considering most every other PC laptop in the same price range uses that part (well, not the $1500 price range, but that's different).

Regarding the trackpad on the blackbook, I am not sure what Apple could do there really. Most every laptop I know of that uses a black trackpad ends up with similar "wear" issues.

-Zadillo


I have a beautiful black Sony Viao S series that is 13.3" and has some type of charcoal coloured trackpad that apple needs to use. I dont know if its made out of magnesium or something but it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to show wear. I have used this laptop literally 5 hours a day every day for 2 years and there is no wear at all. If it gets dirty i wipe it with a damp cloth and it is good as new. I would think Apple would have had the same type of trackpad for the pricepoint of a macbook. I am looking to buy a MBP, but I'm afraid it will be too big/heavy to carry in my Vuitton bag. I need a MBP because I do a ton of digital video editing (in Sony Vegas 7)and would like to use Final Cut Pro and move into the mac world but I travel all the time. If a 13.3" or a 14" MPB came out I would buy it right now (well after Leopard). I'm afraid of buying Apple after all of the heat dissipation issues I have been hearing.
 
Graphics

If Apple put an independent graphics card in this possible 15" MacBook then it would be necessary... If they only offer it with no advantages over the 13.3 then there is no need for it. :( Sorry.
 
Here here! I second that. a smaller MacBook Pro is what will "fill out" the lineup, not this 15.4 Macbook nonsense. Bring on the 12" widescreen ultraportable MBP!!!! That is the only thing that could replace my 12" Powerbook.

I third the motion. There is more of a need for a 12" widescreen MacBook Pro than a 15.4" MacBook. Even if there were going to be a wider screen in the MacBook line, it wouldn't make too much sense to make it 15.4 inches. It would be better as a 14 inch screen or something and it still has to add some feature that the 13.3 inch doesn't already have. Now if this rumor said some thing like a stripped down 15"MBP as a new comer for those that wnat a wider screen but don't want to pay $2000, then that is closer to believable. A machine much like the MBP when it was first introduced. No FW800 and a C2D running at 2GHz. Cut the graphics down to 64MB or something then lower the price to $1500 or $1600. That is more reasonable. It solves the weight issues with polycarbonate and it give the user something that the 13.3" MBP doesn't have... and ExpressCard 34 slot.
 
you know how much of a pain it is to minimize 7 windows everytime i want to see the desktop on a windows comp.
How long has it been since you used Windows? There has been an icon in the taskbar for ages (Win98 at least) that immediately clears/minimizes all open windows when clicked, and clicking again puts them back the way they were. Not as good as exposes, but it came out much earlier.
 
Blah Blah Blah, all you people with hopes on an "Ultra portable" MBP.

I don't think it would be logical to do such a thing. For one, the price would be over the top for most people. For two, they would have to spec it down to keep the Price down.

And thus, we have the 15 inch MB

Problem solved.;)
 
Dumbest. Rumor. Ever.

So, Apple is going to have to explain the differentiation in the stores by explaining one comes with a GPU, and one doesn't.

No, this is just dumb. Rumor sites can use a tad bit of common sense...
 
Dumbest. Rumor. Ever.

So, Apple is going to have to explain the differentiation in the stores by explaining one comes with a GPU, and one doesn't.

No, this is just dumb. Rumor sites can use a tad bit of common sense...

No, most likely someone who actually needs the GPU will not be asking for an explanation in store. Go look at the Apple store right now and on the side where it says "Top Sellers", tell me where you see the MB and MBP respectively. Volume wise, the consumer machines are flying out of the factories. It's easy to see Apple wanting to fill that gap of someone who wants one of those "iPod laptops" with a bit bigger screen.

I really doubt that there will be much difference in hardware between the 13.3 and 15.4 MB, but there will still remain the hardware advantage for the MBP for those that know they need it and will knowingly pay the premium for it.
 
This rumor sounds like BS to me and makes no sense. We have heard more reputable people speak of a 12 inch macbook pro! Pay no mind to this rumor. Keep your hopes up for the 12 inch pro its gonna happen. ;)
 
How long has it been since you used Windows? There has been an icon in the taskbar for ages (Win98 at least) that immediately clears/minimizes all open windows when clicked, and clicking again puts them back the way they were. Not as good as exposes, but it came out much earlier.

I remember that feature. It is nothing like Expose. It only cleared the desktop. It wasn't as robust as Expose and no where near as powerful. The 3D flip thing in Vista compares with Expose a lot more than that feature did. And Mac came out with that first. The windows key "D" feature wasn't used much by me and didn't really help with the way I computed.
 
I really doubt that there will be much difference in hardware between the 13.3 and 15.4 MB, but there will still remain the hardware advantage for the MBP for those that know they need it and will knowingly pay the premium for it.

That is what bothers me the most. Since there isn't much difference in hardware... what is the advantage over the two machines (13.3 inch MB & 15.4" MB) other than the screen size?:confused:

If they are going to make one there has to be a hardware advantage. If you remember the iBooks, the 12 inch didn't have a DVD burner and had a slower processor. This 15" book has got to have something that justifies the price. Those that complain about the MBP being too expensive and not justifying the price are going to be hypocritical by buying a machine that costs an extra $300 or so for 2 inches of screen space. Many people didn't buy the black MacBook (C1D version) for the same reason. Now they are selling like crazy because they have 40 extra GBs over the white one. There has to be a hardware advantage to have smart consumers buying it.
 
speaking of 12" (and smaller) MBPs...

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2500

please please please let it come with an LED multi-touch screen a la the iPhone.

Also setting the new model aside from its existing counterparts, those same people say, may be the conspicuous absence of an optical disc drive. Although Apple's original plans for the notebook called for its inclusion, reports are that the daunting ergonomics have recently driven company engineers to make a concession, forming yet another parallel between the new notebook and the defunct PowerBook 2400.

Unless this thing is some marvel of engineering that is thinner and smaller than anything that has come before, I don't think there is too much excuse for this. If Sony can fit an optical drive into the TX series (not to mention any number of other Japanese laptops one can find at dynamism.com, etc.), I think Apple should be able to as well.
 
That is what bothers me the most. Since there isn't much difference in hardware... what is the advantage over the two machines (13.3 inch MB & 15.4" MB) other than the screen size?:confused:

Lol, as if that feature wasn't enough.:rolleyes:

A 15" mb would be a great additional laptop (besides a desktop) for graphic designers for example. The Adobe CS Suite, QuarkXPress, etc. do not use the graphics card. And the processors in the mb and the mbp are almost identical. But seriously working with photoshop or illustrator on a 13" screen just sucks. So one would have to spend almost twice as much just for those 2" of screen size. And please don't argue with fw800, etc., I have never used that port on my 2 year old pb.

I can't understand why there are always people bitching if there is a rumor about a new apple machine. Imo apple offering a more flexible lineup can only be a good thing. Ok, maybe this new 15" mb won't suit everyones needs, but well, it doesn't have to and I bet many would be very happy with it.

Personally I can't understand the need for a 12" mbp. You wan't portable gaming get a psp.:D
And honestly, who want's to use pro applications on a 12" screen? And I'm saying this as a former owner of a revA 12" pb. I fell in love with the small form factor but after little more than 1,5 years I replaced it with a 15" pb simply because of the screen size. I couldn't stand doing any graphic work on that tiny screen anymore.
But hey, some people will buy it so I say, bring on the 15" mb, the 13" or 12" mbp and while we are at it, a new Cube with a Conroe in it!
 
I really hope they don't do what they did with the 12" and 14" iBooks and have the same resolution for both screen sizes

Hadn't thought of that yet, but it's quite likely. A lot of 15" Windows notebooks have a 1280x1024 resolution. And it would be one more way to distinguish it from the MBP.
 
In the past year, a whole bunch of people I know have bought new computers. Say, around a dozen. Every single one was a 15 inch laptop. Granted, some are students and needed something they could bring to group assignments, etc., but a bunch could have bought desktops, in theory. These people aren't buying a computer to put on their lap. They are all being used on desks at home, maybe the coffee table at times, or places designed for people to bring laptops in.

Now a days, there just is not a need for most people to have a small notebook computer. They want a desktop replacement that is luggable.

So, if Apple's main selling computer is the less expensive MacBook, then I'm pretty sure that quite quickly a 15" MacBook would outsell a 13" MacBook. Probably, a lot of people buying a 13" MacBook today are feeling that they're compromising by buying the smaller screen.

Hell, when I think about the next computer I want to buy, just to sit on my desk at home, it would be a 15" MacBook.
 
I remember that feature. It is nothing like Expose. It only cleared the desktop. It wasn't as robust as Expose and no where near as powerful. The 3D flip thing in Vista compares with Expose a lot more than that feature did. And Mac came out with that first. The windows key "D" feature wasn't used much by me and didn't really help with the way I computed.

Well, sure, it's not a patch on Expose, but the original question was about seeing the desktop on Windows, and the Desktop icon, or WinKey-D does exactly the same as F11 on Tiger, not the full goodness of Expose.

You can even F11/Win-D, drag a file on the desktop, F11/Win-D again, and drop it on an open application, which is useful if you tend to keep temporary files on the desktop in either OS.
 
I think the MacBook line would be well suited with a 15.4" screen, for those who value screen size over portability, and I also think that the MacBook Pro line would do well with a smaller than 15.4" screen for those who want portability. Just because each line would have similar screen sizes, it does not mean that someone will buy the MacBook 15.4" instead of a MacBook Pro, as there are many other features of the MBP besides screen size, such as firewire 800, express card, dedicated video, etc...Others have also brought this up. I personally like a 14.1" screen the best, so a 13.3" is fine for me.

I sell Macs, and people didn't buy a 12" iBook if they needed a 12" PowerBook...

As far as some of the comments made about those who chose to buy PC, and that they will break after a day...Hardware is hardware, it breaks down regardless of the manufacturer. Yes cheaper parts are more prone, but Macs break down now just as much as pc's...It's their software that makes them better, not the hardware.
 
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