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No, they would get an HP instead and stick with windows. I love my ibook, but using it as my sole computer would give me headaches.

If its a mac fan, then they sure as hell arent going to get an HP, and if they are deciding to go to apple for the first time, then they have more sence to get an HP
 
Everyone has a cheap 15 inch laptop....except apple.
My girlfriend bought a 15 inch HP for $500 because the macbook screen was too small for her.
I think apple is missing this market. Not everyone can afford a pro machine for screen size.

very well said!
 
I don't see why a 13" Macbook Pro would be pointless. Obviously, it will fall between the base 15" MBP and the black macbook as standard across the board, so why is it pointless? The price after building a BTO machine doesn't count, since I could very well spec a blackbook to top out the price of a base model macbook pro. At the same time a smaller lighter MBP would be very appealing. I'd definitely buy one over the 15-17", because truthfully, 17" displays are not that great for doing the heavy graphics work that macbook pros were designed for anyway, and with the dedicated GPU across the board, I can expand the real estate with a 30" display of my choosing, a feature the consumer level macbook doesn't have. I'll bet a 13" pro would have great sales, and people will still buy consumer level macbooks and full sized macbook pros.

I want a pro level mini dangit!
 
Originally Posted by bbydon
Everyone has a cheap 15 inch laptop....except apple.
My girlfriend bought a 15 inch HP for $500 because the macbook screen was too small for her.
I think apple is missing this market. Not everyone can afford a pro machine for screen size.


Thats true, but the thing is Apple isnt in it for just the everyday person. They are in it for the people that want more for their buck, and a snazzy lookin computer too
 
well what if they wanted a 15in screen. some people will pay for that since they MAY need it but not all the graphics. so why pay 300 more for stuff you dont need? jeeze is it so hard to understand i swear

well what do you want apple to do? make every different kind of laptop with all the different specs that people want? its impossible. No matter what, someone is going to be unhappy, all apple can do is make that at a minimum of upsetness and not overdo it.
 
Not going to happen

The current sales of MacBooks are excellent and Apple will not be changing or adding to this line anytime soon (beyond speed bumps). The size is perfect for the target market.

However, expect a redesigned MacBook Pro very soon (this quarter).

There will be three screen sizes offered with the largest being 17" and a keyboard similar to the MacBook.

One thing that was learned was not to release a consumer laptop that is the same size or too similar to a pro laptop (the 12" iBook and Powerbook). In the end the two machines cannibalized each other (with the 12" iBook actually selling slightly better).
 
screen space

Everyone has a cheap 15 inch laptop....except apple.
My girlfriend bought a 15 inch HP for $500 because the macbook screen was too small for her.
I think apple is missing this market. Not everyone can afford a pro machine for screen size.

sure 13.3" sounds small, but in comparison to a 15.4" win based comp i would still take the 13.3" Keep in mind apple does a wicked job of keeping your screen clean with only what you need... that extra 2" on a windows machine is meant for all the clutter they can't get rid of. cough.... 1 toolbar compared to 10.
 
sure 13.3" sounds small, but in comparison to a 15.4" win based comp i would still take the 13.3" Keep in mind apple does a wicked job of keeping your screen clean with only what you need... that extra 2" on a windows machine is meant for all the clutter they can't get rid of. cough.... 1 toolbar compared to 10.
Remind me how a 13.3" screen at 1280 x 800 and a 15.4" screen at the same resolution (ignore pixel density) are so different?

Seriously, what does the operating system have to do with the screen?
 
well what do you want apple to do? make every different kind of laptop with all the different specs that people want? its impossible. No matter what, someone is going to be unhappy, all apple can do is make that at a minimum of upsetness and not overdo it.

no as it has been pointed out, every other computer maker makes a cheap 15 in. and since this rumor is the topic of the post, how is it not a bad idea to offer the macbooks power with a larger screen. i know i would have gotten it in a heartbeat since i find 13.3 in is kinda small for pretty much everything when i am at home.

try having multiple word documents open, excel, itunes and you will know what im talking about. and as you can tell doing word, cad or any other thing does not need a gpu... but having a larger screen would be nice
 
Remind me how a 13.3" screen at 1280 x 800 and a 15.4" screen at the same resolution (ignore pixel density) are so different?

Seriously, what does the operating system have to do with the screen?

Either way id still rather a mac over a windows computer
 
Either way id still rather a mac over a windows computer
Now that's nice and all but what is the difference in screen sizes at the same resolution when you ignore pixel density?

Nearly every other manufacturer has a 15.4" low-end model. It's great since the pixel density is lower and you don't have to worry about squinting. I remember a lot of people buying the 14" iBook because it was easier to view the screen contents. That is besides the SuperDrive and other minor tweaks.
 
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A 15.4 MacBook would be a better value if they also -

made BLACK a no-fee option
rolled-out the rumored LED displays
added the rumored faster-booting flash design as well.​

Two of these features potentially could increase the battery life (hours).


Ultimatetone

does no one see that the black is a status? apple has a black macbook at the top of the line, because when someone sees the black macbook, they look at it and let their jaw drop because it's so hot and fashionable. i think it's hot, and i want one. apple won't make it a add on feature... they do the same thing in the iPod line (not with the video iPods, but with the nanos) the black one is only available at the 8gig range. although not as popular, it's a status thing... black macbook=owning "the best"
 
Now that's nice and all but what is the difference in screen sizes at the same resolution when you ignore pixel density?

Nearly every other manufacturer has a 15.4" low-end model. It's great since the pixel density is lower and you don't have to worry about squinting. I remember a lot of people buying the 14" iBook because it was easier to view the screen contents. That is besides the SuperDrive and other minor tweaks.

Well i cant speak for everyone else and seeing as i dont really see a difference...On the other hand, bigger is better, to a point, and 15.4" i guess isnt a bad deal. But prolly a 15"MB would make more sence to me
 
no as it has been pointed out, every other computer maker makes a cheap 15 in. and since this rumor is the topic of the post, how is it not a bad idea to offer the macbooks power with a larger screen. i know i would have gotten it in a heartbeat since i find 13.3 in is kinda small for pretty much everything when i am at home.

try having multiple word documents open, excel, itunes and you will know what im talking about. and as you can tell doing word, cad or any other thing does not need a gpu... but having a larger screen would be nice

thats what expose is for. many windows is the need for a very nice GUI software, and thats what apple has put out. i would take a small mac over a big PC anyday... you know how much of a pain it is to minimize 7 windows everytime i want to see the desktop on a windows comp.
 
I've got a mate who is specifically waiting for a 15" MacBook to buy as his first Mac, so bring it on I say.

And whoever used the words "investment" and "computer" in the same sentence up there need their head feeling...
 
Remind me how a 13.3" screen at 1280 x 800 and a 15.4" screen at the same resolution (ignore pixel density) are so different?

Seriously, what does the operating system have to do with the screen?

a Resolution Independent OS such as the upcoming OSX 10.5 allows you to scale the whole use interface. More pixels per inch will make it looks sharper while retaining the same size (so you don't have to squint on a 160 ppi screen). The other thing you can do is scale everything to make it bigger or smaller. I can't wait to be able to resize the menu bar to... say... 50% of the current size. And toolbars and buttons and scrollbIars etc...

I use the little green zoom button a lot to get windows in sizes that make sense (damn you Firefox!, I will ditch you as soon as I have leopard where Safari has instant search) and expose to make good use of my Macbook's screen. It has the same horizontal resolution as my 19" Dell Screen at work which looks ridiculous next to the Macbook with it's sharp and colorful glossy display. I wish 200 ppi was standard... Maybe the next Cinema Displays and Macbook Pros that ship with Leopard? Please, Apple!
 
This does not really make much sense to me. The range at the moment is not as distinct as the old iBook/powerbook range which I feel is a better strategy.
 
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