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15.4" MacBook in 2nd Quarter 2007?

Digital Skunk said:
....And with the 15"MBP offering a lot more than the MacBooks, I think it is a good deal at $2000.
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I have no quibble with how good a deal the MBP is at $2,000, but there are a ton of people who simply cannot afford $2,000. It wouldn't matter if Apple sold a $2,000 17", or whatever... there are LARGE numbers of potential customers who want 15" and can't afford 2 grand to get it, no matter how cool, feature packed or powerful.
 
Zadillo said:
For what it's worth, the GMA3000 has only just started appearing (personally I haven't even seen that many laptops using it yet, just a few Gateway desktops). From the tone of your post, it makes it sound like Apple is dropping the ball by still using the GMA950, and I don't think that's really fair considering most every other PC laptop in the same price range uses that part (well, not the $1500 price range, but that's different). -Zadillo
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http://guides.macrumors.com/GMA_X3000

http://guides.macrumors.com/Merom

Beating a dead horse again.
BenRoethig said:
I have. I wouldn't touch Dell or Gateway with a 10-foot pole, but the new HPs are really nice.
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I can agree to that. The cheapo Compaq/HP laptops have a nice build quality. The NVIDIA GeForce 6100 gives decent performance with 1 GB of RAM. On the Windows side I've had users run Sims 2 just fine with it. Now if they just didn't come with so much crapware. Expect a X700 based integrated solution to show up from ATi soon. I don't know what NVIDIA's future plans are. It might be a mobile variant of the GeForce 7100. (Not 7 series derived. :rolleyes: )
 
If apples listening (which it sadly never does), forget about this MBP 15.4" but with less capabilities and get a 12" macbook or macbook pro!

You have a guarenteed buyer right here!!!!!!

name your price! Done deal!
 
ready2switch said:
Just to illustrate, consider buying an engagement ring. A diamond is a diamond, chemically (or whatever) speaking, right? But almost everyone knows that there are different levels of quality when talking diamonds. You may be able to buy your diamond for $300 from any discount jeweler, but what quality are you getting? However, those who know nothing about diamonds can walk into Tiffany's and feel assured that what they buy will be quality. Granted, you will spend more in Tiffany's, but you will also know exactly what you walk away with.

:D
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I understand your point, but diamonds are terrible example. They are only expensive b/c of artificial limits put on supply, and are generally a waste of money which I don't think paying a bit more for an Apple equates to.
 
Eidorian said:
http://guides.macrumors.com/GMA_X3000

http://guides.macrumors.com/Merom

Beating a dead horse again.
I can agree to that. The cheapo Compaq/HP laptops have a nice build quality. The NVIDIA GeForce 6100 gives decent performance with 1 GB of RAM. On the Windows side I've had users run Sims 2 just fine with it. Now if they just didn't come with so much crapware. Expect a X700 based integrated solution to show up from ATi soon. I don't know what NVIDIA's future plans are. It might be a mobile variant of the GeForce 7100. (Not 7 series derived. :rolleyes: )
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I don't get it, why did you give me the link to the pages about X3000 and Merom? I know what it is. I was simply saying that the GMAX3000 stuff hasn't started actually showing up in many laptops yet, so it seems unfair to criticize Apple for not having switched the MacBook to them yet.
 
I was surprised at first by this rumour but now it seems both credible and obvious.

There is a queue of new tech waiting for a new 15.4" MBP - even if the suggested 15.4" MB is virually the same spec as the current "regular" MBP there could be sufficient differentiation to justify a premium for the Pro!

We live in exciting times! A 15.4" MB also means a new 15.4" MBP.

Those who want to see a 12" MBP need to start some kind of online petition so Apple get and idea of demand.
 
Zadillo said:
I don't get it, why did you give me the link to the pages about X3000 and Merom? I know what it is. I was simply saying that the GMAX3000 stuff hasn't started actually showing up in many laptops yet, so it seems unfair to criticize Apple for not having switched the MacBook to them yet.
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You're NOT going to find th GMA X3000 in ANY LAPTOPS right now. The Santa Rosa platform isn't even out.
 
acearchie said:
If apples listening (which it sadly never does), forget about this MBP 15.4" but with less capabilities and get a 12" macbook or macbook pro!

You have a guarenteed buyer right here!!!!!!

name your price! Done deal!
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To introduce a 15.4" MPB, it will make the the macpros look better to the consumer who doesnt necessarily want the MBP. On the other hand, whos to say it will have less capabilities seeing as otherwise, they would just make a 15.4" MB.
 
Zukum said:
...All I'd get for the extra $700-$1200 on a MBP is a fancy aluminum case, the independent graphics card and a larger screen.
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You overlooked firewire 800, the illuminated keyboard, and the express card slot. Each of those features has real value to me and to many users, and that's not an exclusive list of the features that excel on the MBP.
 
I just bought a black MacBook and love every aspect of it except the sharp edges around the bottom half. I do wish it had slightly higher pixel density although I'm not sure the next step up to 1,440 would be usable in a day to day situation.

Surprisingly, the 13.3" size factor is better than I expected (coming from a 12 inch PB); weight isn't to excessive and the 13.3" fits comfortably in a regular size backpack.
 
rtdunham said:
You overlooked firewire 800, the illuminated keyboard, and the express card slot. Each of those features has real value to me and to many users, and that's not an exclusive list of the features that excel on the MBP.
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I keep seeing this...

But the MBP is SUCH a great deal... it's got all these cool features... it's worth every penny of it's price!!!@!11!

And you're all absolutely right....

But the point I keep trying to make is, if someone has a budget of $1,500 to $1,700 and no more, it doesn't matter how feature rich or good a deal the $2,000 MBP is... they're NOT GONNA BUY IT! And if that someone is just not down with a 12 or 13" screen, they're out of luck with Apple unless they're willing to make due at the refurb store.
 
i think if anything, apple might transition the black macbook to a 15.4 inch form factor, and leave the white versions as 13"... it would probably cease all those complaints of paying a premium just for a color.

as it is right now, there is a rather large gap in the pricing, so if anything, i could see apple charging like 100 more for a 15.4" macbook...
 
andiwm2003 said:
the problem is be that the 15.4" macbook will cost around $1700 (the estimate is based on the black MB). and for $2000 you'll get a lot more bang for your buck on a MBP. so the price difference is probably to small to make it a success.
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yea but if you dont need those features, why pay the additional 300? to some people, 300 is a significant chunk of change
 
I think this would be a good idea as I can't afford a MBP but I would like more screen real estate and better graphics then the current macbooks can offer.

Oh yeah... I'm not nearly as tech savy as most of you guys, but wouldn't it be kinda hard to pack all the power of a MBP into an ultraportable? My guess is that the performance would severly decrease. Then again I guess that the idea. Trading performance for portability.
 
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