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15-Inch MacBook Pro With Touch Bar Has Non-Removable SSD

radus said:
I had an OWC ssd in my old mid 2012 Retina Macbook Pro after the second failure I gave up and lived with the Apple ssd ( to be honest OWC had a good customer service, which was needed ).
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Same config. Going on over a year I believe.
 
TheMacDaddy1 said:
Ummm not true. Any PC laptop that has a M2/PCIE slot can drop in a new Samsung 960 Pro. They even make 2TB versions. I would bet none of those PC laptops have non-removable drives.

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960pro.html
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Yeah but none of them are shipping with it yet.
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peter2 said:
What will be the drive's position (speed-wise and capacity-wise) in, say, 3 years time?
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Dunno, i'll have sold mine by then so wouldn't care.
 
so overhyped reaction.

Since 2012, there were no opportunity to upgrade it anyway. There were exceptions like to buy SSD chip from other laptop. How many of them was bought? less than 1% i guess. And i guess in 2014/2015 some company made chips with simillar SSDs and how many of them were bought? I guess 2% or so..
😀 Probably I am bad in guessing

Now in order to save a milimetr they made a choice and soldered it. It was so expected
 
Wow, Tim Cook is challenging Marissa Mayer for worst CEO in the world.
Screw up a great company,make your product worse, and completely ignore the needs and complaints of your customers.
Mayer adds thinking your employees are slaves
Cook adds actually having slaves in China build your overpriced products.
Cook then adds getting involved in politics and pissing off half the population of the U.S.
Who wins the award for crappiest CEO?
 
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LOL every hour is somethign new(bad) with this macbook "pro"s... Im glad i canceled my order 2 minutes after placing it... Went for a 2015 MBP instead and already upgraded the drive and a few other things.. Running windows 10, 7 on it as well... all for half the price of this so called "pro"? new mbp... lol
 
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rGiskard said:
Some of us aren't intimidated by repairs, but even so, if your Surface Book's logic board fails because you dumped a drink on it, or dropped it, then your data is likely safe because you can have someone swap out the SSD.
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My data would be safe anyway because I have a robust backup strategy 😉

I have assembled loads of machines and spent my youth with a soldering iron in my hand, but my time is more valuable now than to spend it trying to prise open sealed up machines if they fail and, like it or not, the market is moving to commodity style appliances that are just going to get harder, not simpler, to open up (and not just from Apple)

There will always be a niche market catering for hobbyists and people who like to tinker, but I think it will be a rapidly shrinking one
 
Phil A. said:
My data would be safe anyway because I have a robust backup strategy 😉

I have assembled loads of machines and spent my youth with a soldering iron in my hand, but my time is more valuable now than to spend it trying to prise open sealed up machines if they fail and, like it or not, the market is moving to commodity style appliances that are just going to get harder, not simpler, to open up (and not just from Apple)

There will always be a niche market catering for hobbyists and people who like to tinker, but I think it will be a rapidly shrinking one
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Preach it, brother.

Surprised these folks aren't complaining about the CPU being soldered too.
 
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Phil A. said:
My data would be safe anyway because I have a robust backup strategy 😉

I have assembled loads of machines and spent my youth with a soldering iron in my hand, but my time is more valuable now than to spend it trying to prise open sealed up machines if they fail and, like it or not, the market is moving to commodity style appliances that are just going to get harder, not simpler, to open up (and not just from Apple)

There will always be a niche market catering for hobbyists and people who like to tinker, but I think it will be a rapidly shrinking one
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and if the SSD fails, you need a new laptop.
 
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magicschoolbus said:
These things are all over the place in reviews, how they are made, geek bench scores, etc..

Can we just go back to the classic design with modern hardware and updated screens please?
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No. This is progress, even though you may not consider it such. I like the new design for its features, power, thinness, and lighter weight. Components have to shrink, and have been doing so continuously for decades. Repairability, expandability, etc. are so '80s, '90s. Less power consumption, lower operating temperatures, fewer moving parts all make for less need for repairs. Expand when needed by buying another machine, and choose more wisely next time. Move on.
 
steve333 said:
Jobs never got involved in choosing candidates and even he wouldn't have soldered on the hard drive, especially in a laptop
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Of course he would. I remember people bitching on the sealed-appliance nature of the iPhone and iPad too. (No removable battery! special screws so you can't open it! soldered ram! soldered flash! oh noes!) And he would certainly spoken his mind re: the election if it was something he cared about. He always did.
 
I think the one really sad thing for me with these future models is the loss of the fun and joy at replacing older slower parts for newer faster equivalents as the machine ages. I had my G4 powerbook for 7 years and my Unibody MBP for 8 years and both underwent hardware overhauls with SSD/RAM/Wifi Card, etc.

Then again all those parts came from ebay/OWC so clearly not in apple's benefit.
 
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DoctorKrabs said:
I just happened to buy a used 2009 MacBook Pro as my first Mac this week. I already have an 8GB RAM upgrade and second storage caddy to replace the optical drive. It's funny that my 7 year old machine is being used as a new one for me thanks to its upgrades.

Imagine these 2016 MacBooks in 7 years.
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i wouldn't go back that far, but something like a 2012 or 2013 mac should still be useful in 7 or so years. a 2009... have fun for the next 6 months.
 
DerRolf said:
As far as I am concerned: I am happy with my 256 GB SSD in my 2013 MBPr. I have a NAS at home with 2x 3 TB hard drives which I use for storing my music, photos, data etc. I just have the documents on my SSD which I really need. This way I don't need a dongle to connect anything to my MBP but I have more storage.

For any other occasions I have an VPN tunnel to my NAS to be able to access it from anywhere in the world.
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Hi
Thanks for your reply. So out of interest if you were to get a 2016 rMBP would you stick with 256GB? that is okay future proofed etc
 
jimbobb24 said:
I thought that its being non replaceable was known because exactly this. That was a compromise to make the speed possible.
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Exactly. Who in their right mind would want to try and prise open their $3,000 laptop to replace an impossibly fast SSD with some generic part?

This is a complete non-issue again.
 
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DoctorKrabs said:
I just happened to buy a used 2009 MacBook Pro as my first Mac this week. I already have an 8GB RAM upgrade and second storage caddy to replace the optical drive. It's funny that my 7 year old machine is being used as a new one for me thanks to its upgrades.

Imagine these 2016 MacBooks in 7 years.
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Yep you are right and kudos to you Sir.
 
a.gomez said:
Yeah but that is just numbers on paper. After 2,500/1,500 what you using this for comes to play. It is like buying a sportscar to go to the supermarket - yeah it does 200mph on paper but there is a 55mph speed limit on the road there. No point to it.
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Of course there is point to it, copying files between systems can happen in seconds not minutes the faster it gets - what a silly thing to say.
 
yaxomoxay said:
and if the SSD fails, you need a new laptop.
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I only keep my machines for a maximum of 2-3 years so it isn't a concern to me and if it failed out of warranty in that time period, I'd buy a new one.

I'm probably not a typical user as I run my own business and any time without my computer would cost me a lot of money (which is why I also have multiple computers)

As I run a VAT registered limited company, I also get the VAT back and can offset the cost against my profits saving me corporation tax so things are a bit cheaper for me and I can understand peoples' concerns

However, at the end of the day, complaining about it will be about as effective as king Canute trying to stop the sea so it's not worth the stress 😉
 
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