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Further solidifies my decision to order a 2015 MacBook Pro a few minutes ago that much better.

I ordered mine during the keynote. Glad I did it's a great machine at a fair price and I'll be able to replace the sad when it fails without buying a new logic board.
 
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WHen I use a portable machine I need as much as possible in the enclosure. External drives are ok in the studio as long as I don't have to move them around. I would have like the option to increase internal storage like I did in my MacBook air. I will not be buying this macbook pro for lots of reasons. I think the only reason I would have one is if apple just sent me one. Even then I'm not sure how much it would get used.
 
I hate that it's non-replaceable as much as anyone but honestly, if you had a single doubt in your mind that it would be soldered on then you were kidding yourself. Every piece of evidence we've gotten with Apple's last computers starting with the soldering the RAM and then the must be thinner campaign pointed towards No replaceable parts.
 
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It's not ideal of course, but it's the way it's going. Worth bearing in mind that the speeds on these SSDs are very, very quick, so it's not quite like soldering in a 5400RPM SATA drive. Plus it will prevent people swapping over with an older SSD and reselling as a misrepresented model.

There was a forum member here who bought a used 2015 15" rMBP with a 512GB SSD to ensure longevity. However it transpired that the seller had the SSD swapped over with a one from the 2013 13" rMBP, which was only hitting 700MB/s read/write, rather than 1.5-2GB/s.

Again, it's not ideal, though I don't think it's the absolute end of the world as some people here are saying.
 
Prices for large SSDs and logic boards are similar, so while the part getting replaced is different, the result for the user is the same as ever: backup. get AppleCare.
It can die after apple care which i don't want or need to begin with and it's my choice either way. Apple is taking my choice away which is not unrealistic to expect to be able to swap SSD drive.
 
It also has the fastest drive in any laptop in the world, but you know - lets rile the forum members a bit more :rolleyes:
And is that dependent on it being soldered into the logic board? I'm not sure anyone having to replace the guts of the machine due to a failed SSD will be placated with "at least it was really fast until it died".

I know that really, it shouldn't affect many owners but it's still sour that it': not expensive and harder to repair.
 
These things are all over the place in reviews, how they are made, geek bench scores, etc..

Can we just go back to the classic design with modern hardware and updated screens please?

THIS! But no, Apple has to make everything thinner and more proprietary. There is nothing else that matters to them. It's sickening.
 
Repairs will be an expensive proposition when this model of MacBook Pro is out of warranty.
I won't be buying.
Hopefully Jony Ive will be fired or quits by the time the next model is designed.
One thing that guy just doesn't understand is good design is more than just how the device looks.
 
And what good is the "fastest drive" when it's full?

Then you start archiving stuff, use external drives, time machines, cloud storage. Don't act like apple leaves you with no choice... the reality of things is that probably less than 1% of all MacBook pro's sold have ever been upgraded by the consumer. And no, if all the people on this site were to upgrade their machines, they would still be in the less than 1%. A pro machine means many many things. Upgradable SSD and RAM may and may no be one of them.
 
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