15-Inch MacBook Pro With Touch Bar Has Non-Removable SSD

[yaxomoxay]

BS

Good argument.

 

[zaaach48]

Then you pay $310 for an apple depot flat rate repair.

thank you

Because it's not up to Apple to tell me where and how i can repair it.

You have the freedom to do as you wish, but also Apple has the freedom to only recommend authorized service providers to service their products. Quite frankly, why would you want to take it to someone who doesn't really know what they are doing?

 

[Hanzu Lao]

You want to spend more? Because, again, just purchasing the SSD would cost more than that.

Actually no it wouldn't cost more, but since Apple made sure that the controller is custom making it harder and harder for anyone else to offer something it is clear that they want monopoly on repairs.

 

[tubeexperience]

If you ordered the 2TB version, you're unlikely to find a bigger one anyway. And it's not like there are any third party sources for those connectors either.

Would you sent me $1400 so I can get the 2TB version instead of the 256GB version?

 

[CyBeRino]

I foresee USB-C powered soldering guns becoming popular…

The chips are BGA and glued into place so good luck with that.

 

[robeddie]

I thought the SSDs in MBPs had been non-removable for a while now. I guess I misunderstood.

Nope. In fact, both OWC and Traninternational now sell SSD upgrades for all mac laptops 2013 to 2015.

 

[scuac]

In the words of Colonel Jack O'Neill

"For cryin' out loud!"

 

[Technodynamic]

you guys are surprised that it is not upgradable? I'm not.

 

[majkom]

Well that's "awesome". And if that SSD dies few weeks after warranty expires?

You are ****ed

 

[zaaach48]

And is that dependent on it being soldered into the logic board? I'm not sure anyone having to replace the guts of the machine due to a failed SSD will be placated with "at least it was really fast until it died".

I know that really, it shouldn't affect many owners but it's still sour that it': not expensive and harder to repair.

like any electronic product, it works until it doesn't. there is no correlation between cost of an electronic product and how often/if it will need to be maintained.

 

[Hanzu Lao]

thank you


You have the freedom to do as you wish, but also Apple has the freedom to only recommend authorized service providers to service their products. Quite frankly, why would you want to take it to someone who doesn't really know what they are doing?

Are you ****ing kidding me? Do you know how clueless those authorised services really are? Go watch Louis Rossman channel where he repairs many MacBooks that people bring him from apple service or authorised service. Bunch of ***** they are.

 

[AltecX]

Folks, as someone who has been in the industry for a while (probably longer than most have been alive), let me be clear. DO NOT STORE EVERYTHING ON YOUR LAPTOP. We are in this wonderful world where we can store things on the cloud or offline. I highly recommend that. Of course having things local is helpful for to keep productivity high on the work at hand, but everything else does not have to be so. Buy SSD to meet the needs of your day to day work and a little more. Then develop a strategy to archive older projects/documents. I maintain redundant copies of everything on a backup drive at home and another in the cloud. And I don't keep everything on my laptop/desktop.

This. Exactly This.

I have over 1TB of storage in my Alienware laptop. Most of its contents are active files or game data. Backblaze backs it all up. Documents, Pictures, Downloads, Music all backup to OneDrive. Game Save data saves back to Steam or Rockstar Social.

The downside is that OMG people need to KNOW how to use the $2,000 machine they use! Who would EVER think that people need to KNOW how to actually USE the stuff they buy. As a long time worker in the IT industry is still amazes me how many people think that turning on their display powers on their computer, even people that have never touched a Mac before for some reason think this. It hasn't changed since the 80's, maybe 70's, and people STILL do not comprehend the basics 40yrs later.

 

[cmaier]

This thread is insanity. The SSD is very expensive. Apple will fix it, even out of warranty, for less than the cost of you purchasing one and doing it yourself. And that is assuming there even was a supply of these since they use a unique form factor and connector. If the SSD fails,

Actually no it wouldn't cost more, but since Apple made sure that the controller is custom making it harder and harder for anyone else to offer something it is clear that they want monopoly on repairs.

This is insanity. Of course it would cost more than $310. And they used a custom controller for speed and power, and it shows in all the benchmarks.

People just want to be outraged, apparently. Martyrs everyone.

 

[keysofanxiety]

Would you sent me $1400 so I can get the 2TB version instead of the 256GB version?

Please enlighten me: where can you buy a 2TB PCI-e SSD with 3.1GB/s read/write speeds on the consumer market for under $1500?

Apple's pricing for the SSD performance isn't that unreasonable.

 

[uknowimright]

like any electronic product, it works until it doesn't.

thanks John Madden

 

[zaaach48]

It's not ideal of course, but it's the way it's going. Worth bearing in mind that the speeds on these SSDs are very, very quick, so it's not quite like soldering in a 5400RPM SATA drive. Plus it will prevent people swapping over with an older SSD and reselling as a misrepresented model.

There was a forum member here who bought a used 2015 15" rMBP with a 512GB SSD to ensure longevity. However it transpired that the seller had the SSD swapped over with a one from the 2013 13" rMBP, which was only hitting 700MB/s read/write, rather than 1.5-2GB/s.

Again, it's not ideal, though I don't think it's the absolute end of the world as some people here are saying.

This. This is where computers are going, like it or not. One day we will have friggin Minority Report-style glass panels for computers and people will complain "I can't swap the hard drive out?"

 

[Hanzu Lao]

You want to spend more? Because, again, just purchasing the SSD would cost more than that.

I want my right to do the **** i want to do how i want to do. It's up to me to decide.

 

[flat five]

The new MacBook Pro(s) are throwaway computers.

all computers are.. nobody* is using even 10 year old computers.. most people are using computers less than 5-6..
all you people complaining 'planned obsolescence' etc... well, you buy new computers too after relatively short amounts of time.. i don't get it ??

*figuratively speaking

Do you want expand the storage with expansion drives? Tough luck because new MacBook Pro doesn't have SD slot either.

lol what? SD slots are for expansion drives?

Did you have your data on the SSD when the logic board failed? Tough luck because you are not getting that data back.

say what?
i don't know what to tell you other than if your data is in one place on one drive and you lose it then it's nobody's fault but your own

 

[tubeexperience]

Then you pay $310 for an apple depot flat rate repair.

$310 is less than the cost of the SSD , so what's the issue?

$310 for Apple depot flat rate repair is likely much less than the cost of the replacement SSD itself (assuming you could even buy one from someplace). Seems fair to me.

No you take it to the Apple Store and get it repaired flat rate $310.

The $310 flat rate repair is ONLY offered if your computer is in immaculate condition.

Do you have a ding on your computer? Now, you can't get the $310 flat rate repair.

 

[robeddie]

thank you


You have the freedom to do as you wish, but also Apple has the freedom to only recommend authorized service providers to service their products. Quite frankly, why would you want to take it to someone who doesn't really know what they are doing?

Upgrading a hard drive has almost always been a simple thing with macs throughout time. I have done it on almost every single mac I've ever owned. To remove that flexibility now (for no other reason than greed?) is an abomination.

 

[AngerDanger]

The chips are BGA and glued into place so good luck with that.

Are you suggesting that my humorous and unrealistic scenario might be unrealistic?!

 

[aaronhead14]

Man, Apple are TRYING to lose customers, aren't they?!

 

[BenTrovato]

$310 for Apple depot flat rate repair is likely much less than the cost of the replacement SSD itself (assuming you could even buy one from someplace). Seems fair to me.

After you paid 4k for a machine, all of a sudden $310 to replace ONE component seems fair? Okay.

 

[AltecX]

thank you


You have the freedom to do as you wish, but also Apple has the freedom to only recommend authorized service providers to service their products. Quite frankly, why would you want to take it to someone who doesn't really know what they are doing?

Because repairing a Mac is EXACTLY like repairing any other PC. You can get Apple authorized so easy any idiot can do it. Hell my little brothers dorm mate in college was Apple authorized and Dell authorized.

 

[zaaach48]

The $310 flat rate repair is ONLY offered if your computer is in immaculate condition.

Do you have a ding on your computer? Now, you can get the $310 flat rate repair.

incorrect. Dents and scratches do not affect depot shipment. Now if you shattered your screen or your computer is completely mangled, yea sure its on you to pay for it because you broke it