Is this the base 15 mbp or the model with the 9600gt? Because I have been reading that the 9400m while its suppose to have the same power usage as the intel IGP, in actual usage that is not true. It suppose to be kind of a hog on the battery. At that what I have been reading over there http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=388668&
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15" MacBook Pro Battery Tests: "Eight, freakin, hours"
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I wonder if the 2.8ghz processor makes any difference? I obviously haven't had it long enough to know haha. We'll see in the fall when class starts back.
Battery life definitely seems good though! The estimated time remaining is kinda useless, like watching the instantaneous MPG display on your car, it fluctuates based on how hard you are using it. The % left falls ever so slowly while web browsing.
Battery life definitely seems good though! The estimated time remaining is kinda useless, like watching the instantaneous MPG display on your car, it fluctuates based on how hard you are using it. The % left falls ever so slowly while web browsing.
I'm still waiting for the following things:
1) USB 3.0 - can't buy a new computer without this, since external hard drives are hampered by the paltry speed limit of USB 2.0.
2) Firewire S3200 - would be nice, but USB 3.0 is probably going to be king
3) Bluetooth 3.0 - Also nice
4) Finalized 802.11n hardware - finalized hardware always seems to perform better than draft hardware. My late 2006 macBook Pro seems to be flaky on heavy duty transfers to my Time Capsule.
And then I'll take the plunge. My late 2006 MacBook Pro is still going strong, so I have little reason to replace it immediately. Hopefully, Apple will stick all of that stuff in by mid-2010. And perhaps 512MB video RAM standard?
Wishful thinking:
1) 1920x1200 screen - probably not until resolution independence is finished (maybe 10.7?)
2) Audio in MiniDisplayPort.
3) Bluray
1) USB 3.0 - can't buy a new computer without this, since external hard drives are hampered by the paltry speed limit of USB 2.0.
2) Firewire S3200 - would be nice, but USB 3.0 is probably going to be king
3) Bluetooth 3.0 - Also nice
4) Finalized 802.11n hardware - finalized hardware always seems to perform better than draft hardware. My late 2006 macBook Pro seems to be flaky on heavy duty transfers to my Time Capsule.
And then I'll take the plunge. My late 2006 MacBook Pro is still going strong, so I have little reason to replace it immediately. Hopefully, Apple will stick all of that stuff in by mid-2010. And perhaps 512MB video RAM standard?
Wishful thinking:
1) 1920x1200 screen - probably not until resolution independence is finished (maybe 10.7?)
2) Audio in MiniDisplayPort.
3) Bluray
I dont think there will be an impact on the user until they try to sell it. Used laptops almost always come with dead batteries but replacing those batteries was easy now it has to be cracked open? Ugh.
Ive always called the Apple tax an Apple deposit because they have such a good resale value. I think this is going to hurt that.
Ive always called the Apple tax an Apple deposit because they have such a good resale value. I think this is going to hurt that.
I have my keyboard replaced twice. The first time might of been on a Friday night. Possibly Saturday. I have no idea but I got it back on Sunday before the Bucs game ended. This was from a busier mall. The second time was 24 hours.
So, I doubt you will be without for any amount of time. Go early enough and you will get it back while shopping. And 1,000 charges?
I have 1,075 cycles on my core duo macbook (29 months) shenanigans! I'm perfectly content with my battery at 2+ hours. So from 8 hours will you will be complaining if you only get 5 in 4 years? So it probably isn't that big of a deal.
So, I doubt you will be without for any amount of time. Go early enough and you will get it back while shopping. And 1,000 charges?
I have 1,075 cycles on my core duo macbook (29 months) shenanigans! I'm perfectly content with my battery at 2+ hours. So from 8 hours will you will be complaining if you only get 5 in 4 years? So it probably isn't that big of a deal.
Apart from the convenience of simply taking the old battery out and replacing the new one I wouldn't think it'd put many people off buying a used uMBP a couple of years from now.
Maybe I'm just not as lazy as some posters but if getting Apple to replace the battery costs the same a new spare battery I'd happily go to an Apple Store for it.
It's almost a non issue, just book a Genius Bar appointment beforehand, unless you live miles away from an Apple Store. Does anyone know whether Apple will send a box out? (This would however be bad as you'd be without a machine for a few days)
Surely, if you've bought a second-hand MBP and are going to have to replace the battery, what's the big deal about taking it to a store to get it replaced? You're going to be paying the same price whether you could buy a battery yourself or get Apple to fit it?
Lol, I had the same computer and same terrible battery life (sometimes it lasted less than a minute near the end) but I was able to upgrade back in October. I get a good 5 hours of casual use. It's a whole new world
You thinking short-term. Sure they are offering to replace the battery NOW at the same cost because these laptops are new and the battery doesn’t need replacing. You can bet that five years from now there will be a service charge on these “older” models.
Most Apple users won’t have any problems with cracking open the laptop to get to the battery - I’ve changed motherboards on my old G3 and G4 iBooks - but you can’t guarantee the technical know how of potential buyers; particularly those new to Apple products. An inconvenient battery change will put off a lot of buyers and that will lower the price you get.
Those that complain about the battery being "non-rremovabe," go to ifixit. Sure you have to remove a lot of screws, but the battery seems to be able to be easily unplugged. It's not like it's soldered/locked in or something. It's less convenient than regular laptops, but I see that it's definitely easier than, oh let's say upgrading the RAM on the Mac mini.
Sure i've read it. The point is; the graph is misleading. You can't judge the battery time under light usage, especially for a MBP.
I thought companies figured out that putting round batteries in a rectangular space was inefficient years ago?
Apple should...
Apple should offer an external battery pack, or license the magsafe connector to APC or another company that makes external batteries.
That would solve the problem with airplanes or other situations where one is away from power for more than the capacity of the one internal battery.
Apple should offer an external battery pack, or license the magsafe connector to APC or another company that makes external batteries.
That would solve the problem with airplanes or other situations where one is away from power for more than the capacity of the one internal battery.
How do you know what "almost all" MacBook Pro owners use their machines for? It's silly to assume that they're doing cpu-intensive tasks 100% of the time. The article tests the battery under 3 usage scenarios. This chart is for just one of them.
A valid point. Another way of looking at this though is, 4-5 years from now when people are buying these MBPs of eBay or Craigslist. Most (this is entirely debatable) people who are looking into secondhand Apple machine's aren't new switchers. Most people if they want to switch to a mac go and buy a new one. So those who are buying these models will essentially know that they have to replace the battery at this point, even if it is by themselves. Besides more DIY guides will emerge as time goes by and when these models are updated. Plus I can see third party batteries being offered in the future (maybe).
Extremely impressive. Kudos Apple.
NOW tell me: any of the benighted whining PC-fanboys of this forum STILL asking for an useless "replaceable" battery? This is BY FAR the best-lasting notebook battery in the market, which will suffice even for long-haul flights (considering that you also need to sleep and eat aboard)...so why ask for something that you'll never need to replace for at least 4 years?
GO APPLE! MS IS DEAD.
Well, you are wrong and missing the point. It must not that hard to guess "almost" all MBP owners don't use their notebooks for "very very" light web browsing. Here is a quote from the article;
..This is an extremely light test as none of the web pages have any flash ads..
And beside that, i don't remember that i ever did talk about a 100% percentage.
If the battery lasts eight hours, even if it degrades over time to half its capacity that'll still be four hours of usable time! More than enough for most uses.
This battery will have an incredibly long useful life simply by virtue of being so high capacity in the first place. I'd love to get even four full hours out of my nearly brand new battery in my 2006 15" MBP. Eight? Holy **** that's awesome.
The only reason I'm not upgrading is I can't justify the cost; my 2006 laptop still works perfectly and is fast enough for my needs. A very small part of me wants it to die so I have an excuse. (I've always had that problem; it's hard for me to spend money without being able to justify it.)
This battery will have an incredibly long useful life simply by virtue of being so high capacity in the first place. I'd love to get even four full hours out of my nearly brand new battery in my 2006 15" MBP. Eight? Holy **** that's awesome.
The only reason I'm not upgrading is I can't justify the cost; my 2006 laptop still works perfectly and is fast enough for my needs. A very small part of me wants it to die so I have an excuse. (I've always had that problem; it's hard for me to spend money without being able to justify it.)