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You know...these tarrifs...why none for post production for film and television? Donald hates looney left coast Hollyweird. Why not hit the studios with tariffs for sending post production to Canada and other countries? Post Production is a huge portion of a films process. This is one tariff Americans HAVE been ASKING for. The work force has been decimated because of this. Instead we offer our tax dollars as incentives to match Canadas. ????? NO. TAX THE STUDIOS for post production not done here in the USA. This is a product we actually DO HAVE the people and facilities for.

I can see two possible reasons: 1) Trump is very much a mercantilist thinking that manufacturing “real things” is important and overlooks the services industry completely, and 2) Canada doesn’t appear to be subsidizing that work in a way that the US would see as unfair.
 
I can see two possible reasons: 1) Trump is very much a mercantilist thinking that manufacturing “real things” is important and overlooks the services industry completely, and 2) Canada doesn’t appear to be subsidizing that work in a way that the US would see as unfair.

And on top of that, his team doesn't want him to be seen protecting the "Hollywood elite".
 
Let’s try to strong arm tactics with a country that buys most of our national debt. China holds most of the cards in this game and we’re just playing with fire. We keep trying to outsource to other countries but most those countries do not have the manufacturing infrastructure built to replicate what many have in China. How many companies can afford to lose money for 3-5 years waiting for that infrastructure to be built.

As for the dumb asses that say Apple can afford it, no they can’t over the long term. Also those costs get past down to consumers, so this means all electronics will just cost a lot more in coming months along with newly built homes.
 
"Actually, it benefits Americans to pay more for stuff. That gives us an opportunity to make that stuff here less efficiently, and still pay more for it, which you would know if you didn't hate America." - Sheep
This somehow is rarely mentioned, for tariffs to shift production to the U.S., customers will need to pay the higher prices required to sustain production in the higher-wage, to some degree less efficient United States.
 
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Just about everything is going up because of these tariffs. Was just talking my local bike shop, they are no longer selling kids bikes because they have gone up about $120 each. So, I a nice kids bike that would cost about $100, is $220 now.
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Seems like an opportunity for someone in the US to start making kids bikes.
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Let’s try to strong arm tactics with a country that buys most of our national debt. China holds most of the cards in this game and we’re just playing with fire. We keep trying to outsource to other countries but most those countries do not have the manufacturing infrastructure built to replicate what many have in China. How many companies can afford to lose money for 3-5 years waiting for that infrastructure to be built.

As for the dumb asses that say Apple can afford it, no they can’t over the long term. Also those costs get past down to consumers, so this means all electronics will just cost a lot more in coming months along with newly built homes.


The Fed holds all the cards.

Everyone else, including the United States, is just a bit player.
 
Who is standing up to China? Trumps own products are made there. He is only posturing like an aging peacock with no hope for success. The man cannot even stand up to his own miserable reflection in the mirror.
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So much rage, so little knowledge
Trump’s own products are made there because he had to compete with others who had already moved manufacturing there. In reality, Trump doesn’t make anything. He simply licenses his trademark. If all neckties are made in China, that’s where “his” neckties are going to be made.

You can’t blame Trump, as a businessman, for trying to cut costs, when he has to compete with other businesses that manufacture in China. As President, he is doing something to stop the outsourcing insanity. He has always been against outsourcing manufacturing. But, to compete in business, you have to do things you do not endorse.
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I can see two possible reasons: 1) Trump is very much a mercantilist thinking that manufacturing “real things” is important and overlooks the services industry completely, and 2) Canada doesn’t appear to be subsidizing that work in a way that the US would see as unfair.
Additionally, Canada is the closest to us culturally country, and the salaries there are similar to ours.
 
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I can't wait for Chinese tariffs and a UK £ that's in the toilet to crush my dreams of buying a Mac Pro. Stupid world.
that’s exactly what will happen in the current politics climate - zero chance a no deal brexit will happen every1 including that doofus garage knows this is a regressive step, meanwhile the rest of the country suffers due to the lies
 
Canadians pay more income tax than most American's. Pay more sales tax then every american I believe, lowest provincial sales tax is 12%. Exchange rate like +30% right now. So the purchasing power isn't similar.

There are also plenty of medical bills we have to pay for as well the only thing that is paid for is doctor visits and operations. Dental, physio, chiro, therapy etc you have to pay for or have benefits that pay for a portion of it through work. I'm not going to family doctor or getting an operation on the daily so it's not exactly a costs savings.
I'm not going to comment on Australia and other countries because I have no idea.

You dont have it bad there.
https://www.ubs.com/microsites/prices-earnings/en/explore/?category=Domestic Purchasing Power&indicator=General_Domestic Purchasing Power_Net (New York = 100)&split=false
 
Apples margins are greater than 15 percent on all products and they water sitting on a huge pile of cash much of which is held outside the US .Tim isn't worried about competitiveness he is worried about shareholders
 
Wow, a 25% tariff caused a 83% price increase ?

You know there were more then tariffs been added.
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Buy a used one as people do all over the world. Kids outgrow their bikes within a few years. On another note, a good bike can’t cost $100. That’s what the problem is to begin with. A bike that costs $100 is a piece of junk made by slave labor in China.

These are kids bikes, think balance bikes. Yes, you are going to get a good adult bike below $1000.
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No sarcasm. Why is China cheating us? They need to stop

China doesn't need us, the blame for this falls on Trump.
 
Apples margins are greater than 15 percent on all products and they water sitting on a huge pile of cash much of which is held outside the US .Tim isn't worried about competitiveness he is worried about shareholders
Sorry, but that's BS. I held a very significant AAPL portfolio (in a few million dollars) for over 10 years, which I just sold this past Thursday. I didn't feel like Apple had my best interests at heart. AAPL didn't do quite as well as other FAANG stocks did. In hindsight, I should have invested in AMZN, as the return would have been significantly better. Sitting on a pile of cash does nothing for the shareholders, as does the absolute lack of vision by Tim Cook.

The only reason that the stock has held up recently is the absolutely outrageous amount of money that Tim has thrown at stock buybacks. But even with that, the P/E ratio has been sliding down slowly but surely, which means that Wall Street has no trust in Apple's ability to grow any time soon. If Tim Apple had my best interests at heart as a shareholder, he would have aggressively increased the dividend payments rather than throwing hundreds of billions of dollars on stock buybacks. However, I do realize that the stock buybacks is the only reason that AAPL hasn't lost 25-40% of its value by now compared to its highs. These hundreds of billions of dollars, and not the Apple's innovation, is what kept AAPL afloat for the past few years.

The fact that Tim was warned by Trump almost three years ago now to move manufacturing out of China but was doing nothing to that end until very recently tells me that Tim didn't have my best interests at heart. In fact, I consider this a dereliction of his duties and a complete failure as CEO. The next year or two will be very rocky for the AAPL shareholders due to Apple being caught with their pants down when it comes to tariffs due to their almost 100% dependence on the Chinese manufacturing. Don't blame Trump; he told Tim to start planning exit from China 3 years ago.

I'm betting on no deal with China any time soon and the 30% tariff on the Apple Watch and iMacs (going in affect on September 1), no exciting products announced by Apple on September 10th, then no-deal Brexit on October 31st, slow holiday season for Apple due to the lack of 5G iPhones this year, and finally, a 15% tariff on the iPhone (going in affect on December 15th). These are multiple punches that are going to hit AAPL one after another against the backdrop of the entire market going down due to the escalating trade war with China and the UK bolting out of Europe with no deal.

In the past, I wished so many times that I had sold AAPL before just one event like this because it always hit AAPL hard and negatively affected the stock price for months (if not years). This time around, there are multiple events that are going to hit AAPL one after another within the next 4 months, and I do not have any trust in either Apple's product pipeline or in the wisdom of Tim Cook to weather the storm, worth risking my investments. Hence, I'm almost completely in cash as of two days ago. I believe the market correction is going to start in November 2019 (when Brexit occurs) and continue until at least the end of December 2019, similarly to the way it happened in 2018. This time around, though, the real "no-deal" Brexit and the full-blown trade war with China will not be just fears but rather reality.

My next task is to decide what to invest in after the overall market corrects itself, and I no longer think that I will invest nearly as much (if anything at all) in AAPL. I haven't been excited about what Apple has been doing for years now. I no longer watch the boring Apple's keynotes unlike in the past when I would tune in live and sit on the edge of my chair throughout the keynote. I stopped following the iPad completely, as the crippled software makes it a boring product for me, and overall, I just think that Apple has lost its cool factor - at least for me. I'm not excited about Apple raising the prices on their iPhones and Macs - that's not good for the shareholders at all because it results in sales numbers continually trending down year after year. I'm not at all impressed by the Apple's "services" sector, as in my opinion, their services are amateurish. They can't even pave their way in education due to the lack of a cloud offering that suits the education sector. Their "services" are completely useless in the enterprise. The only sector where their "services" are acceptable are for private home use, but even there the Apple's "services are extremely limited and leave a lot to be desired. Apple is leaving so much money on the table for no reason whatsoever, and their shortsightedness when it comes to their approach to the enterprise has bothered me for years.

My iPhone 7 is 3 years old, and my wife's iPhone X is two years old. We are not planning to buy a new iPhone for the next several years. In fact, I'm seriously considering switching to Android at this point because Android excites me more than iOS at this point. I never thought I would ever utter anything like this, but here I am not even wanting a new iPhone.

I'm happy I was able to get out of AAPL before the next downturn this time around. Tim Cook has killed the excitement of Apple for me, and I'm no longer willing to ride the AAPL train all the way down the cliff. So, to sum it all up, I don't believe that Tim Cook has ever had the shareholders' interests in mind. I think that all Tim is concerned with is his social agenda. He has bitten much more than he can swallow at this point, as he was never ready to be CEO of a company like what Apple used to be when Steve Jobs ran it in the first decade of the 21st century. Tim Cook has failed as CEO and he is failing as a logistics guru by not having taken Trump seriously three years ago.
 
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Wow, a 25% tariff caused a 83% price increase ?

Sure it could, because it's not some simple equation like you've suggested. It affects break points in discounts (all through the component sourcing), changes in stock/warehousing/inventory, all sort of increases in cost all along the supply chain that cascade down to the consumer retail channels, and isn't always a rudimentary calculation of , "add 25% to the retail price ...".
 
Buy a used one as people do all over the world. Kids outgrow their bikes within a few years. On another note, a good bike can’t cost $100. That’s what the problem is to begin with. A bike that costs $100 is a piece of junk made by slave labor in China.

No joke if I had a child there is no way he’s riding some garbage $100 bike. Likely end up with a broken seat post in the rear or a handlebar in the chest. Sad how many people refuse to understand what something of quality costs.
 
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I would recommend to anyone that wants to learn more to read The Hundred-Year Marathon by Michael Pillsbury. This book provides the history of our current situation and China’s intent going forward. Spoiler alert, it is not pretty.

It really is about time we had a leader that is willing to do something unpopular and potentially damaging to his political prospects in order to truly set us up for success far into the future. Everyone else has only been worried about their own short term survival.
 
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In a way I think it's a shame Apple absorbs the extra tax, if not Americans would feel how it is to pay European (amongst other places) prices.;)
Not really fair for the rest of this the way I see it, but hey, that has been for lots of features/services.

I would recommend to anyone that wants to learn more to read The Hundred-Year Marathon by Michael Pillsbury. This book provides the history of our current situation and China’s intent going forward. Spoiler alert, it is not pretty.

It really is about time we had a leader that is willing to do something unpopular and potentially damaging to his political prospects in order to truly set us up for success far into the future. Everyone else has only been worried about their own short term survival.


There won't be a future if such people will be Presidents, ...think climate.
 
I'm looking for a post that discusses how China treats their workers. They have suicide nets outside buildings to ensure employees don't off themselves during their shift. Maybe this will force China to improve working conditions and wages. But Trump though....right?
 
I would recommend to anyone that wants to learn more to read The Hundred-Year Marathon by Michael Pillsbury. This book provides the history of our current situation and China’s intent going forward. Spoiler alert, it is not pretty.

It really is about time we had a leader that is willing to do something unpopular and potentially damaging to his political prospects in order to truly set us up for success far into the future. Everyone else has only been worried about their own short term survival.

If a Democrat gets elected as president in 2020, I'm doubtful anything will change as far as our tariff policy on China.

Many of the Democrat candidates are in favor of strong Chinese tariffs but not the way that Trump has implemented them.
 
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You know there were more then tariffs been added.
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These are kids bikes, think balance bikes. Yes, you are going to get a good adult bike below $1000.
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China doesn't need us, the blame for this falls on Trump.

If China doesn't need us why are they cheating us?
 
No joke if I had a child there is no way he’s riding some garbage $100 bike. Likely end up with a broken seat post in the rear or a handlebar in the chest. Sad how many people refuse to understand what something of quality costs.
A grocery bill for a family of four for just a couple days costs at least $100; normally more than that. So, $100 for a bike that is supposed to last for several years is an unreasonable expectation. Yet, you can go to Walmart and buy a kid's bike for $50. It will start falling apart within days, but yet, it's there for you to purchase.
 
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