Arn, you never mentioned your source for the new info? You seem pretty certain about the screen size and lit keyboard.
Where did you find out? Underpants gnomes?
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15inch PowerBook Details and Supplies
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If Apple uses the 7457's in the new Powerbooks, I bet it's this:
15.2-inch TFT Display
1280x854 resolution
1.33GHz PowerPC G4 (7457)
512MB DDR333 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA/100
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce4 440 Go
64MB DDR video memory
Gigabit Ethernet
FireWire 400
FireWire 800
AirPort Extreme (optional)
Bluetooth built-in
DVI & S-Video out
If it's the 7455:
15.2-inch TFT Display
1280x854 resolution
1.25GHz PowerPC G4 (7455)
512MB DDR333 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA/100
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce4 440 Go
64MB DDR video memory
Gigabit Ethernet
FireWire 400
FireWire 800
AirPort Extreme (optional)
Bluetooth built-in
DVI & S-Video out
I'll be a bit disappointed if they have a 440 GO in them again. Isn't the FX/GO on the market now?
Re: Re: Re: Re: ?
Yes. I think we have all considered that. it has been talked about for um... about a month now. It is most likely true. There are multiple forum threads regarding this.
Anyway, Apple has only 3 choices:
1. Do nothing until a new processor arrives (moto or IBM)
2. Scramble to shove the 1.25 in to powerbooks and figure out how to convince people that they would want it.
3. Scramble to put a low speed (1.2 - 1.4) G5 in a powerbook.
1 of these things will happen within the next month. I just want to hear rumors that let us know which one it is.
Originally posted by ELYXR
Anyone ever consider the possibility that Apple got screwed by Moto AGAIN on the 7457 chips? This has happened too many times for noone to be talking about it. Maybe Apple had to go back and totally redesign the new release with 7455 chips? It's not like any other system component could be holding this up, and at this point Apple has basically already missed the back-to-school buyers. I bet Steve is pissed one way or the other.
Yes. I think we have all considered that. it has been talked about for um... about a month now. It is most likely true. There are multiple forum threads regarding this.
Anyway, Apple has only 3 choices:
1. Do nothing until a new processor arrives (moto or IBM)
2. Scramble to shove the 1.25 in to powerbooks and figure out how to convince people that they would want it.
3. Scramble to put a low speed (1.2 - 1.4) G5 in a powerbook.
1 of these things will happen within the next month. I just want to hear rumors that let us know which one it is.
Lets get realistic
I think we should have a two or so week moratorium on powerbook rumors. Half the group is gathering tidbits of information from here and there and hope they mean something in terms of release dates. Stocks going low at retailers, advertising pulled down...etc.
Every single predicted date has came and gone without and new PB so clearly no one knows when PBs are coming out.Each of the referers has repeatedly been proven wrong. In the real world anyone with that kind of credibility record can forget being able to be taken seriously a long time ago. Thus any further hints and strong rumors are likely to be just are those that came and gone in the past.
The current powerbook machines are just fine. Just like the buyers guide USED to say,if you really need to get one just go and buy one. Otherwise just wait till apple have sorted it out.
I think we should have a two or so week moratorium on powerbook rumors. Half the group is gathering tidbits of information from here and there and hope they mean something in terms of release dates. Stocks going low at retailers, advertising pulled down...etc.
Every single predicted date has came and gone without and new PB so clearly no one knows when PBs are coming out.Each of the referers has repeatedly been proven wrong. In the real world anyone with that kind of credibility record can forget being able to be taken seriously a long time ago. Thus any further hints and strong rumors are likely to be just are those that came and gone in the past.
The current powerbook machines are just fine. Just like the buyers guide USED to say,if you really need to get one just go and buy one. Otherwise just wait till apple have sorted it out.
The buyer's guide used to say that because it was true a very long time ago, like the first six months after the 15" was updated.
Of course it's 15.2", you suckers. The 15.4" was used in the Dell laptop. It worries me that people jump so quickly onto these unsubstantiated rumors.
Of course, I'm expecting a new PowerBook tomorrow, so who knows?
Of course it's 15.2", you suckers. The 15.4" was used in the Dell laptop. It worries me that people jump so quickly onto these unsubstantiated rumors.
Of course, I'm expecting a new PowerBook tomorrow, so who knows?
And still we wait...
If they wait till after paris, it will be VERY stupid of them to have missed the back-to-school market.
Stevie probably would like to eat his words ~ "year of the laptop"
motorola problems or not, apple should at least announce so we dont all feel like we are fumbling through a dark tunnel with no end in site.
PLEASE powerbooks by tuesday
If they wait till after paris, it will be VERY stupid of them to have missed the back-to-school market.
Stevie probably would like to eat his words ~ "year of the laptop"
motorola problems or not, apple should at least announce so we dont all feel like we are fumbling through a dark tunnel with no end in site.
PLEASE powerbooks by tuesday
I'm starting to think these new powerbooks are going to be quite a let down as processor and graphics performance are concerned, not to mention the screen. This really should be a fantastic laptop after the HUGE delay... but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
okay, so the earliest date for updates has come and gone, but i'm still hopeful of a release tomorrow (Friday). there are some other sites that have also said if not this week, then in a couple of weeks at the latest.
i've been looking at MacRumors all day waiting for some news, at least it wasn't too bad. it could have been worse.
i've been looking at MacRumors all day waiting for some news, at least it wasn't too bad. it could have been worse.
I'm going to be disappointed...
Whatever the updates will be, I'll probably be disappointed. I'm waiting to buy a 12.1" PB. But I'm quite sure the new model will have
- Still no L3 cache
- Probably only 1 GHz
- Still only the lowly 1024x768 resolution
- Still only 128 MB RAM built-in
- Still only one mouse button
- Higher price
- Four weeks delivery time
Or, according to some rumors, there might not be an update for the 12" at this time. Way to go, Apple
I don't get why people can't cope with high resolutions. That's what font setttings and different icon sizes are for... The whole OS should operate on a dpi basis rather than pixels. Would make things so much easier. I for one wouldn't mind 1280x1024 on the 12" at all. And my roommate's 16" 1600x1200 Dell is very nice to work with. He's running Linux though, so he doesn't face Apple's restrictions on setting system font sizes.
As for the release date -- My guess is that Apple got burned by Motorola, but now SJ is waiting for a cool release date, just like with the iMac. It's all about Apple's corporate image, not about the users.
Sorry, I guess I'm a bit frustrated...
Whatever the updates will be, I'll probably be disappointed. I'm waiting to buy a 12.1" PB. But I'm quite sure the new model will have
- Still no L3 cache
- Probably only 1 GHz
- Still only the lowly 1024x768 resolution
- Still only 128 MB RAM built-in
- Still only one mouse button
- Higher price
- Four weeks delivery time
Or, according to some rumors, there might not be an update for the 12" at this time. Way to go, Apple
I don't get why people can't cope with high resolutions. That's what font setttings and different icon sizes are for... The whole OS should operate on a dpi basis rather than pixels. Would make things so much easier. I for one wouldn't mind 1280x1024 on the 12" at all. And my roommate's 16" 1600x1200 Dell is very nice to work with. He's running Linux though, so he doesn't face Apple's restrictions on setting system font sizes.
As for the release date -- My guess is that Apple got burned by Motorola, but now SJ is waiting for a cool release date, just like with the iMac. It's all about Apple's corporate image, not about the users.
Sorry, I guess I'm a bit frustrated...
I wanted a 12" powerbook. Did a little research, found myself visiting macrumors.
Decided it would be prudent to wait until the 19th Aug before ordering it, as this was the release date for updates being suggested at the time.
Ordered my mac online from apple uk about 4pm GMT on the 19th. Specified more RAM etc. Computer was "In Build" then got shipped out on the 21st from Taiwan. It arrives in Luxembourg today, gets joined up with the case and ethernet crossover cable I ordered at the same time (sent from Cork in Eire) Then the whole lot gets sent to me here in London(!?)
I presume that the computer was assembled in Taiwan. If new ones will be in the shops any minute now (as it seems alot of people (especially students) are hoping) would they still be making old ones?
Make of this what you will.
I decided that after ordering my mac I would close my eyes and ears to magazines, web sites etc for a while to avoid dissapointment if new ones get announced. As it turns out i'm actually more intrigued than anything else, hence this post and my continued visits to the sites. Safe in the knowledge that my first ever mac is lovely no matter what comes out tommorow.
Decided it would be prudent to wait until the 19th Aug before ordering it, as this was the release date for updates being suggested at the time.
Ordered my mac online from apple uk about 4pm GMT on the 19th. Specified more RAM etc. Computer was "In Build" then got shipped out on the 21st from Taiwan. It arrives in Luxembourg today, gets joined up with the case and ethernet crossover cable I ordered at the same time (sent from Cork in Eire) Then the whole lot gets sent to me here in London(!?)
I presume that the computer was assembled in Taiwan. If new ones will be in the shops any minute now (as it seems alot of people (especially students) are hoping) would they still be making old ones?
Make of this what you will.
I decided that after ordering my mac I would close my eyes and ears to magazines, web sites etc for a while to avoid dissapointment if new ones get announced. As it turns out i'm actually more intrigued than anything else, hence this post and my continued visits to the sites. Safe in the knowledge that my first ever mac is lovely no matter what comes out tommorow.
I have talked to an Apple store employee a while ago. He stated that Apple wanted to get the G5 out the door and not have new PowerBooks get in the way of sales of the G5.
That was in July. He further said that he thinks that Sep/Oct would be realistic for release date.
Given that Apple has put out the G5 in time and is delivering them as we speak I think it is fair to say that Apple will release in Paris.
Why would they not wait and give the new product a propper forum for a launche?
So Paris it is, unfortunately. But chances are that they will be available right away.
Just my 5 cent
That was in July. He further said that he thinks that Sep/Oct would be realistic for release date.
Given that Apple has put out the G5 in time and is delivering them as we speak I think it is fair to say that Apple will release in Paris.
Why would they not wait and give the new product a propper forum for a launche?
So Paris it is, unfortunately. But chances are that they will be available right away.
Just my 5 cent
Apple is not holding back
I really cannot image that Apple is holding back the updates. If they only could announce or have them stored somewhere they really would. Apple is a company and only interested in profit and revenues and market share. Thats how companys work.
They are professional enough not to have big stocks of old hardware. That means:
NEW Powerbooks are not ready.
I really cannot image that Apple is holding back the updates. If they only could announce or have them stored somewhere they really would. Apple is a company and only interested in profit and revenues and market share. Thats how companys work.
They are professional enough not to have big stocks of old hardware. That means:
NEW Powerbooks are not ready.
Re: higher res
Now, it really depends on what you want to do with it, doesn't it? Every time I walk up to a 15" TiBook, my reaction is that the pixels are too big and the density is too low. I want a higher resolution than that, but, then, screen realestate is premium to me.
Now, it really depends on what you want to do with it, doesn't it? Every time I walk up to a 15" TiBook, my reaction is that the pixels are too big and the density is too low. I want a higher resolution than that, but, then, screen realestate is premium to me.
I've been thinking they'd be a let down ever since it became reasonably apparent that they would still be G4 based. I'm quite happy with my choice to get buy a PB back in May, under the circumstances. I'll probably buy a G5 PB (or, perhaps, a G6 PB) in another year to two years. (That, I'm sure, won't disappoint...)
The only reason to hold back
The only reason to hold back for a big venue like Paris would be a significant change (e.g. G5s or something equally as revolutionary). Merely bringing speed bumps for the 12 and 17, and bringing the 15 up to similar specs (e.g. airport ex etc) doesn't seem to fit the pattern for a big announcement.
Therefore, I don't think they'll hold back for something like that. They'll announce when they are ready. Who knows when that will be and of course it could coincide with Paris anyway, but they wouldn't hold them just for that...the 15 is too old as it is to wait. Likewise, I don't believe the rumors about them being held back to avoid messing with the PM G5s, the 15 is way to old have that be a concern *unless* they were G5 PBs. Otherwise that makes little sense.
Motorola must have screwed them again. I'd love to see them put a G5 (even running at the lowest possible speed in one) just to get them out there. Then speed-bump them as soon as they can. Dumping Motorola asap would be highly beneficial.
The only reason to hold back for a big venue like Paris would be a significant change (e.g. G5s or something equally as revolutionary). Merely bringing speed bumps for the 12 and 17, and bringing the 15 up to similar specs (e.g. airport ex etc) doesn't seem to fit the pattern for a big announcement.
Therefore, I don't think they'll hold back for something like that. They'll announce when they are ready. Who knows when that will be and of course it could coincide with Paris anyway, but they wouldn't hold them just for that...the 15 is too old as it is to wait. Likewise, I don't believe the rumors about them being held back to avoid messing with the PM G5s, the 15 is way to old have that be a concern *unless* they were G5 PBs. Otherwise that makes little sense.
Motorola must have screwed them again. I'd love to see them put a G5 (even running at the lowest possible speed in one) just to get them out there. Then speed-bump them as soon as they can. Dumping Motorola asap would be highly beneficial.
Re: I'm going to be disappointed...
I think it's quite likely that you'll be disappointed, at least to some extent. And if you weren't, I would be...
If that...
Wishing for technology that doesn't exist? Although I haven't made an exhaustive search, a preliminary search showed no 12" LCDs at any higher resolutions than this, anyway.
128MB built in isn't that bad. Sure, 256MB would be better, but I'd rather be able to plug a 1G chip into the expansion port...
Oh, please, no! I hope that Apple never puts more than one mouse button on their laptops! I've never used a Windows laptop that had a decently functional two buttons by a track pad. It's trivially easy to use the control key when using the track pad, and when using an external, well, then you've got multiple buttons.
I suppose the one saving grace it that I'm fairly certain if Apple ever did add a second button to their 'Books, they'd do it in a way that would work...
Generally, new models are introduced at the same price point as previous models...
Now, here I have to agree. Apple should open this up to user control...
I think it's quite likely that you'll be disappointed, at least to some extent. And if you weren't, I would be...
If that...
Wishing for technology that doesn't exist? Although I haven't made an exhaustive search, a preliminary search showed no 12" LCDs at any higher resolutions than this, anyway.
128MB built in isn't that bad. Sure, 256MB would be better, but I'd rather be able to plug a 1G chip into the expansion port...
Oh, please, no! I hope that Apple never puts more than one mouse button on their laptops! I've never used a Windows laptop that had a decently functional two buttons by a track pad. It's trivially easy to use the control key when using the track pad, and when using an external, well, then you've got multiple buttons.
I suppose the one saving grace it that I'm fairly certain if Apple ever did add a second button to their 'Books, they'd do it in a way that would work...
Generally, new models are introduced at the same price point as previous models...
- Four weeks delivery time
Or, according to some rumors, there might not be an update for the 12" at this time. Way to go, Apple
I don't get why people can't cope with high resolutions. That's what font setttings and different icon sizes are for... The whole OS should operate on a dpi basis rather than pixels. Would make things so much easier. I for one wouldn't mind 1280x1024 on the 12" at all. And my roommate's 16" 1600x1200 Dell is very nice to work with. He's running Linux though, so he doesn't face Apple's restrictions on setting system font sizes.
Now, here I have to agree. Apple should open this up to user control...
Originally posted by Abstract
Shut up.......just shut up about the PB's.
These August dates fit exactly with the year end spending cycle that most Universities deal with. Our fiscal year is over at the end of September, and as such, all purchases have to be completed by September 5th so they can audit and close the books. I have been waiting for the update to avoid the situation that happened after my last purchase, where the TiBooks were upgraded about a month after I had received my 500MHz PBG4. I still have one more week before I HAVE to submit my order, and while I'm very impatient, I'm going to hold out, just in case they do update them by next Friday.