My school (Art Center College Of Design) has an AWESOME special going on... $2099 for a 1 GHZ PB 15incher with superdrive AND applecare.... i need a laptop and thats VERY tempting... I think I should wait though...
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As I've already said, this is really starting to sound like the perpetual 'it will be released next week' mantra. I don't believe it. I won't believe it until I hear it from a better source. (i.e. if ThinkSecret were to say that there would be new PowerBooks next week, I'd sit up and pay attention.)
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Stanford U.
Stanford University, located in the heart of Silicon Valley, and just a few miles from Apple's headquarters, has always had a special connection with Apple. Traditionally, Stanford's computer store has had specials on Macs soon to be d/c'd long before anyone else had. Stanford once even had a display model in the store before that model was formally announced, I believe (can't swear to it, but I really think it was announced a day after I saw it sitting there). In any case, there seems to be some close connection.
Stanford has had pretty steep specials on both 15" PB models for about 2 months now, and they say "while supplies last" which they pretty much only do for DC'd models. So the new ones must be around the corner.
But of course something could be stalling the release... maybe they're overheating, or some other component is flawed, etc.
BTW - they also just started incredible deals on the Powermacs, so there might be something there, too...
PB: 867 Combo, AppleCare... 1738
1 Gig Super AppleCare 2099
PM 1 Gig + Apple 17" Flat Panel + AppleCare...1799
1.25 + Apple 17" Flat Panel + AppleCare...1998
1.42 + Apple 17" Flat Panel + AppleCare...2598
Also, they're selling the 12" PB for just 1499 !
That's not a reduction, though, it's always been that cheap here.
Stanford University, located in the heart of Silicon Valley, and just a few miles from Apple's headquarters, has always had a special connection with Apple. Traditionally, Stanford's computer store has had specials on Macs soon to be d/c'd long before anyone else had. Stanford once even had a display model in the store before that model was formally announced, I believe (can't swear to it, but I really think it was announced a day after I saw it sitting there). In any case, there seems to be some close connection.
Stanford has had pretty steep specials on both 15" PB models for about 2 months now, and they say "while supplies last" which they pretty much only do for DC'd models. So the new ones must be around the corner.
But of course something could be stalling the release... maybe they're overheating, or some other component is flawed, etc.
BTW - they also just started incredible deals on the Powermacs, so there might be something there, too...
PB: 867 Combo, AppleCare... 1738
1 Gig Super AppleCare 2099
PM 1 Gig + Apple 17" Flat Panel + AppleCare...1799
1.25 + Apple 17" Flat Panel + AppleCare...1998
1.42 + Apple 17" Flat Panel + AppleCare...2598
Also, they're selling the 12" PB for just 1499 !
That's not a reduction, though, it's always been that cheap here.
Boy, all these great deals on the current 15" almost makes me want to go and buy one instead of waiting for the new ones.... almost.
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They may be upgraded soon, but I suspect not next week.
My logic is Apple has a 10 day return policy on upgraded models, so the Apple site usually reflects this fact by increasing the shipping date right before a release so Apple doesn't sell a machine which will just get immediately returned.
The 15" PB, however, is still showing as same day shipping...
With all that said, I hope I am wrong and the new machines ship next week with everything I have been waiting for. It's been a long wait...
My logic is Apple has a 10 day return policy on upgraded models, so the Apple site usually reflects this fact by increasing the shipping date right before a release so Apple doesn't sell a machine which will just get immediately returned.
The 15" PB, however, is still showing as same day shipping...
With all that said, I hope I am wrong and the new machines ship next week with everything I have been waiting for. It's been a long wait...
What is this fear based on? I can understand some of the arguments that some people put forward as to why we'll see another generation of G4 PowerBooks, but Power Macs? What evidence is there for that? I'd say that, if anything, we'd be talking about a little longer of a wait than we might like before the next upgrade, but that upgrade will be an upgrade to the 970.
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Hope we get a surprise
Guys i have read alot here and here are my opinions.
CPU
First off, Apple has been disappointing many of us with it's poor speed and specs for the better part of 2 years. Yes most of this has been the fault of Moto, but now we are getting nearer to the end of those problems. We need a very fast, not hot and stable CPU. ie 970!. or something else. Remember we have been stuck on the laptop at 1mhz for how long? over a year? this is just terrible we need a big statement. not 15-20% chip speed increase. it just doesnt compete with wintel machines.
GRAPHICS CHIP
They have also not used the highest tech graphics chips with alot of vram, most desktop replacement users want 64mb of vram DDR. the only question is whether they use the fastest chip, from ATI, and not the slower one from nvidia like they just did in the 17" PB.
RAM
lso, we want the DDR ram to be fully used, not handicapped. Yes we know you have used DDR, but cmon, there was no way on the processor to fully take advantage of it.
LCD Panel
We need the highest quality panel, much like what sony uses.
Firewire & USB
Well we want Firewire 800 and even USB 2.0 so we can use lots of devices. yes i like firewire more, but on many it just doesnt matter.
Airport Extreme built-in
This is the new standard. Wish they went to the 5 ghz plan, but at least this is compatible. i just want to avoid the 2.4. oh well
Bluetooth internally built-in
It would be about time to integrate this.
Lighted keyboard (of course!)
At least on the upper model of the 15" this is a great option for those of us in dark rooms.
Then what do we want?
to be surprised with something. A new design item. something amazing. Why not? that is what we want from apple.
Best,
Mitch
Guys i have read alot here and here are my opinions.
CPU
First off, Apple has been disappointing many of us with it's poor speed and specs for the better part of 2 years. Yes most of this has been the fault of Moto, but now we are getting nearer to the end of those problems. We need a very fast, not hot and stable CPU. ie 970!. or something else. Remember we have been stuck on the laptop at 1mhz for how long? over a year? this is just terrible we need a big statement. not 15-20% chip speed increase. it just doesnt compete with wintel machines.
GRAPHICS CHIP
They have also not used the highest tech graphics chips with alot of vram, most desktop replacement users want 64mb of vram DDR. the only question is whether they use the fastest chip, from ATI, and not the slower one from nvidia like they just did in the 17" PB.
RAM
lso, we want the DDR ram to be fully used, not handicapped. Yes we know you have used DDR, but cmon, there was no way on the processor to fully take advantage of it.
LCD Panel
We need the highest quality panel, much like what sony uses.
Firewire & USB
Well we want Firewire 800 and even USB 2.0 so we can use lots of devices. yes i like firewire more, but on many it just doesnt matter.
Airport Extreme built-in
This is the new standard. Wish they went to the 5 ghz plan, but at least this is compatible. i just want to avoid the 2.4. oh well
Bluetooth internally built-in
It would be about time to integrate this.
Lighted keyboard (of course!)
At least on the upper model of the 15" this is a great option for those of us in dark rooms.
Then what do we want?
to be surprised with something. A new design item. something amazing. Why not? that is what we want from apple.
Best,
Mitch
I agree with you, they need to use the high end technology on the new laptops if they're going to claim its "top of the line" and charge a pretty hefty price for it. There is no reason they shouldn't put everything you listed in the new powerbook... and its going to be kind of dissapointing if they don't.
Re: Stanford U.
*starts getting antsy*
Damn, a 12" PB for 1499!!! I'd buy one for that price. If converted to Canadian dollars, you couldn't get a 12" ibook with Combo drive for that price.
I'm a student in Canada, and with the Canadian dollar rising relative to the US dollar, I may consider going to the US to purchase my Mac, ultimately saving myself $400 Cdn. But can I use my student card at Apple or an American university, or do you have to attend the university in order to take advantage of their specials?
*starts getting antsy*
Damn, a 12" PB for 1499!!! I'd buy one for that price. If converted to Canadian dollars, you couldn't get a 12" ibook with Combo drive for that price.
I'm a student in Canada, and with the Canadian dollar rising relative to the US dollar, I may consider going to the US to purchase my Mac, ultimately saving myself $400 Cdn. But can I use my student card at Apple or an American university, or do you have to attend the university in order to take advantage of their specials?
I think you have to go to a specific university to get its discount, but someone correct me if I'm wrong. I go to a UC... but other UCs seem to have better deals... wouldn't mind buying one from them.
i beleive that the new PowerBooks are ready to go, but i was starting to think that Apple would release them on a significant date. then i remembered that Apple has just released stuff before, on no special day.
hope they are ready in the next month or so. (ecpecially since i just sold my TiBook... and am without a Mac for the time being...)
hope they are ready in the next month or so.
(ecpecially since i just sold my TiBook... and am without a Mac for the time being...)
Re: Hope we get a surprise
Just a minor correction. We have been at 1GHz since last November. So, that's just over six months. While it is time for an upgrade/speed bump, even a 25% bump would be in line with a standard upgrade, and it would make me sufficiently happy to buy a new PB. Sure, I hope for and would love to see a 970 PB, but I won't get too upset if it doesn't materialize yet...
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Just a minor correction. We have been at 1GHz since last November. So, that's just over six months. While it is time for an upgrade/speed bump, even a 25% bump would be in line with a standard upgrade, and it would make me sufficiently happy to buy a new PB. Sure, I hope for and would love to see a 970 PB, but I won't get too upset if it doesn't materialize yet...
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Originally posted by cb911
i beleive that the new PowerBooks are ready to go, but i was starting to think that Apple would release them on a significant date. then i remembered that Apple has just released stuff before, on no special day.
hope they are ready in the next month or so.
Hey, I'm with you there! I sold my iBook a couple weeks ago. I'm not going totally without Mac, though. I still have my old PB3400 to hold me over. Still, I am longing for a better, faster machine...
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Tis true. I go to UCB and I wanted to get the UCD price on the 1 gig Ti awhile ago so I called our campus store and they said they couldn't do that because the stores were seperate.
You can get the normal educational discount at an Apple retail store though if you show them your student ID - don't know if that helps you Abstract since the university specific deals seem much better than Apple's educational pricing.
Btw, I ended up just buying the 1 gig Ti w/ Applecare at my store (it was only $2299) and I think it is totally worth it. The new 15 inchers are definitely going to be in the $3k range when they debut and the 1 gig Ti just rocks in my opinion.
There is a degree to which I am sorely tempted to do this too. I want a machine with decent power again. I want to be back in OS X. I miss it! Okay.... Breath.... I can manage.... I can wait....
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15" powerbooks on UMN website
Here are the specs for the 15" powerbook. It appeared on the university of minnesota's web site this morining
15.2-inch TFT Display
1280x854 resolution
1GHz PowerPC G4
1MB L3 cache
512MB SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA/66
SuperDrive
ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
64MB DDR video memory
Gigabit Ethernet
FireWire 400
AirPort built-in
Bluetooth optional
DVI & S-Video out
Here are the specs for the 15" powerbook. It appeared on the university of minnesota's web site this morining
15.2-inch TFT Display
1280x854 resolution
1GHz PowerPC G4
1MB L3 cache
512MB SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA/66
SuperDrive
ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
64MB DDR video memory
Gigabit Ethernet
FireWire 400
AirPort built-in
Bluetooth optional
DVI & S-Video out
Re: 15" powerbooks on UMN website
.......and every morning. I don't think the new 15" PB will have much better specs, but at least a faster CPU and APExtreme, me thinks.
.......and every morning.
I don't think the new 15" PB will have much better specs, but at least a faster CPU and APExtreme, me thinks.