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Originally posted by hihostevo
Earlier someone posted a note that their college bookstore was selling the 15" PB with SuperDrive for $2,099 which inlcuded Applecare.

Would you please re-post that schools information?

Thx,

Steve

That's the price at the Harvard store.
Unfortunately you need a valid Harvard student ID to buy there.
 
What is the USUAL time b/t price drop and new product?

Does anyone know what the historical time frame has been between price reductions like the ones we saw yesterday and a new product being released?

I think that would be the best predictor of a time frame for the new laptops.

Anyone?
 
June 19, 2003 was Motorola's estimated date for shipment of the next series of G4 processors for general consumption.

Should be interesting to see where Apple comes out on the timeline.
 
Re: What is the USUAL time b/t price drop and new product?

Originally posted by TomA
Does anyone know what the historical time frame has been between price reductions like the ones we saw yesterday and a new product being released?

I think that would be the best predictor of a time frame for the new laptops.

Anyone?

As far as I know there is no set amount of time. Apple updates things when they want to. They have in the past made a price cut then update a couple weeks later and in other cases they made a price cut and it was a month or more. Anyone that says they have figured out Apples marketing practices is a fool there are not consistencies.
 
Re: What is the USUAL time b/t price drop and new product?

Originally posted by TomA
Does anyone know what the historical time frame has been between price reductions like the ones we saw yesterday and a new product being released?

I think that would be the best predictor of a time frame for the new laptops.

Anyone?

https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//
 
Thanks for the link, but it doesn't exactly answer the question (but it is still an interesting link).

The question remains:

What is the average length of time between a price drop (like the ones we saw yesterday) and a new product announcement?

It would be especially helpful if someone could provide this information for powerbooks specifically!

For example: how long was it between the price reduction in the 550/667 Powerbooks and the release of the 867 Powerbooks?
 
Originally posted by TomA
Thanks for the link, but it doesn't exactly answer the question (but it is still an interesting link).

The question remains:

What is the average length of time between a price drop (like the ones we saw yesterday) and a new product announcement?

It would be especially helpful if someone could provide this information for powerbooks specifically!

For example: how long was it between the price reduction in the 550/667 Powerbooks and the release of the 867 Powerbooks?


Actually the price drops are a fairly new thing that in my memory seems to have only started since last July.
 
Originally posted by TheMightyG
That's the price at the Harvard store.
Unfortunately you need a valid Harvard student ID to buy there.

Thanks MightyG.......

That is a bummer.... I was hoping they would accept a valid student ID from another Univ.

Steve
 
Thanks Bandit................

I apparently only noticed the UOBookstore and neglected to notice the ".com" on the end of it.

Steve

Ps. I just checked the web site and they list the price as 1899 on the 15"PB w/867 not 1689.

Steve
 
Originally posted by hihostevo
Thanks Bandit................

I apparently only noticed the UOBookstore and neglected to notice the ".com" on the end of it.

Steve

Ps. I just checked the web site and they list the price as 1899 on the 15"PB w/867 not 1689.

Steve

When you go to the Powerbook page here. Click on the link at the bottom of the specs for the 17" PowerBook. It will bring up a PDF of there latest deals. In the middle of the page is the deal for the 15".
 
channel clearing ...

Originally posted by MacBandit
Actually the price drops are a fairly new thing that in my memory seems to have only started since last July.

As of August 2001, Apple had been "channel clearing" (dropping the prices of existing products to make way for new models) for at least a year and a half ... at least with big buyers. I can remember meetings where I/my former employer would be offered significant discounts (up to 50%) if we bought in lots of 20, 50, 100.

Not all big buyers passed those savings on to their customers, but I do recall noticing some online sites offering special deals at the same time as we were being offered them.

Now that Apple has its own stores, the AppleStore (including academic discoutns) online, I'm not surprised that they are bypassing the middlemen and offering deals directly to consumers ... it's a smart move for those looking for a cheap Mac and not lusting after the bleeding edge ...

cheerz!
 
Thanks again Bandit..........

I looked up the .pdf file and unfortuanately the special ended April 30, 2003.

However, I think I will call them tomorrow and see if it might still be available.

Steve
 
Originally posted by hihostevo
Thanks again Bandit..........

I looked up the .pdf file and unfortuanately the special ended April 30, 2003.

However, I think I will call them tomorrow and see if it might still be available.

Steve

So it did. Thanks for noticing that. I'll quit mentioning it and quit thinking about it. I wonder if they will have a new deal especially now that the prices have dropped.
 
Re: channel clearing ...

Originally posted by robodweeb
As of August 2001, Apple had been "channel clearing" (dropping the prices of existing products to make way for new models) for at least a year and a half ... at least with big buyers. I can remember meetings where I/my former employer would be offered significant discounts (up to 50%) if we bought in lots of 20, 50, 100.

Not all big buyers passed those savings on to their customers, but I do recall noticing some online sites offering special deals at the same time as we were being offered them.

Now that Apple has its own stores, the AppleStore (including academic discoutns) online, I'm not surprised that they are bypassing the middlemen and offering deals directly to consumers ... it's a smart move for those looking for a cheap Mac and not lusting after the bleeding edge ...

cheerz!


Thanks, that explains that. I hadn't thought about the Apple Stores making the change in their buisness practice. So before about last August they had discounts but just to resellers after last August they begain passing the discounts on directly because they have their own established retail chain. I would make a bet that they still offer much deeper discounts to resellers.
 
Originally posted by WannabeSQ
That would be enough to get me from wanting the iBook and getting the powerbook. Can you still add a superdrive at that price?

Nope. That's just the combo drive model. Still, $1399 for a G4 PowerBook is nothing to sneeze at, new models on their way or not...
 
Re: Re: channel clearing ...

Originally posted by MacBandit
Thanks, that explains that. I hadn't thought about the Apple Stores making the change in their buisness practice. So before about last August they had discounts but just to resellers after last August they begain passing the discounts on directly because they have their own established retail chain. I would make a bet that they still offer much deeper discounts to resellers.

In terms of timing, I seem to remember that those price cuts happen at least 3 to 4 weeks before the actual update. I am not saying this is going to happen this time, but I wouldn't put my hopes up for a quick update.
On a different note, IF Apple announce their 970 PMacs at WWDC (think long presentation, 64bits, performance, etc...), I do not see Apple presenting also 2 new laptops, those being more consumer-orientated machines. My guess is early-to-mid July for 12" update and (maybe, just maybe) 15" update the week before the WWDC (which would make it in 10 days time...-ish).

My 0.02p.

NicoMan
 
Re: Re: Re: channel clearing ...

Originally posted by NicoMan
In terms of timing, I seem to remember that those price cuts happen at least 3 to 4 weeks before the actual update. I am not saying this is going to happen this time, but I wouldn't put my hopes up for a quick update.
On a different note, IF Apple announce their 970 PMacs at WWDC (think long presentation, 64bits, performance, etc...), I do not see Apple presenting also 2 new laptops, those being more consumer-orientated machines. My guess is early-to-mid July for 12" update and (maybe, just maybe) 15" update the week before the WWDC (which would make it in 10 days time...-ish).

My 0.02p.

NicoMan


I agree that it would be in their best interests to spread the releases out like they did earlier this year. If any mention of the PPC970 is made at the WWDC I'll eat my sock. Not so much a bet but it'll simply happen from shock and excitement. I don't expect to hear anything about it until they're ready to be released and I see that as no earlier then August.
 
heres hoping that the 'year of the notebooks' isnt jsut the year of two notebooks.
 
Originally posted by ouketii
heres hoping that the 'year of the notebooks' isnt jsut the year of two notebooks.

Haha, that's a new thought. Maybe they meant the year of the notebooks literally. Like it would be a year until they would release any other computer from the date they released the 12" and 17". I'm glad that I'm pretty damn sure that that isn't true.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
Haha, that's a new thought. Maybe they meant the year of the notebooks literally. Like it would be a year until they would release any other computer from the date they released the 12" and 17". I'm glad that I'm pretty damn sure that that isn't true.


Man... don't scare me with thoughts like that!! ;)
 
15" update coming even sooner than expected?

Both ClubMac and MacMall have lowered their prices an additional $50 on the 867's bringing the price to $1940.83!

Hmmmm...they really want these things out of here...could we see an update even sooner than WWDC?
 
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