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This could all be achieved overnight (literally) simply by Apple lifting the restriction that restricts macOS to running only on Macs and opening it to run on any generic PC.
And that will never happen. macOS has been developed at great expense, they’re not going to give it away for free. It will continue to be tied to running only on computers built and sold by Apple.
 
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Earnings report for Apple is the 30th of Oct so if not invites are sent tomorrow or maybe wednesday then expect the MBP 16" to be released in 2020.
 
They might consider doing that if there were enough people willing to spend $399 on an OS. Otherwise, no way.
It's highly unlikely, I agree, but the purpose of currently providing macOS free OS is to sell hardware. If hardware sales (iMacs) are steadily falling as more and more people's computing and communication needs are provided by tablets and phones then selling macOS as a stand-alone product is a (remote) possibility.
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And that will never happen.
A phrase that crops up on almost every page of history.
 
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It's highly unlikely, I agree, but the purpose of currently providing macOS free OS is to sell hardware. If hardware sales (iMacs) are steadily falling as more and more people's computing and communication needs are provided by tablets and phones then selling macOS as a stand-alone product is a (remote) possibility.

Hardware sales are steady largely because the desktop and laptop market as a whole is steady. Allowing macOS on other vendors would provide one-time growth and nothing more than that.
 
Hardware sales are steady largely because the desktop and laptop market as a whole is steady. Allowing macOS on other vendors would provide one-time growth and nothing more than that.
Steady? Perhaps. Depending on your interpretation, the graph below shows that sales:
- have been reasonably stable (or reasonably moribund) for six or seven years, or
- the long term curve peaked in 2015 and is now declining, or
- 2018 sales were the lowest for five years.
Either way, licensing macOS to other manufacturers is a possibility (as was done before). Of course, the resulting machines would only sell if they were cheaper than the equivalent Macs and might cannibalise too many Apple sales rather than attract Windows users. So, unlikely but not impossible.
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Of course, the resulting machines would only sell if they were cheaper than the equivalent Macs

Not necessarily true..

Differentiation of the hardware is a big opportunity.

There's plenty of market for high end macOS powered machines (desktop and laptops) that simply have different designs and feature choices made than what Apple always chooses (thin/light/minimal at all costs)
 
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Not necessarily true..

Differentiation of the hardware is a big opportunity.

There's plenty of market for high end macOS powered machines (desktop and laptops) that simply have different designs and feature choices made than what Apple always chooses (thin/light/minimal at all costs)
An X1 Carbon running fully supported OSX seems superior to most macbook pros.
 
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Not saying they don't work well, but it seems it's an uphill battle. You would have to keep up with OSX updates breaking the system etc.
 
You would have to keep up with OSX updates breaking the system etc.

That's the thing though - you don't actually "have to keep up".

Some of the happiest macOS users I know (hack or not) are ones that settle on a version they like and only update every so often (sometimes years between doing so - just depends).

It all just depends what your usages require.
I can imagine a lot of people staying on Mojave (or earlier) if they have existing workflows that are at risk with Catalina's changes and support drops, etc..
 
I've always thought they should tweak the touch bar to be an output device as well as an input device. Maybe have it work like a stock ticker giving various types of information (news, notifications, weather etc).

While typing "Touch Bar" MacOS insists on auto capitalizing it as if it's worthy of capitalization. Funny.



I would slightly prefer no touchbar, but the only reason it bothers me is that it’s a lot of extra engineering for something that doesn't make any difference to me. I hope they either find a way to improve its utility or drop it.
 
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That's the thing though - you don't actually "have to keep up".

Some of the happiest macOS users I know (hack or not) are ones that settle on a version they like and only update every so often (sometimes years between doing so - just depends).

It all just depends what your usages require.
I can imagine a lot of people staying on Mojave (or earlier) if they have existing workflows that are at risk with Catalina's changes and support drops, etc..
I get that and that's what I understood as well, but there seem to be vulnerabilities found often that need patching. I wonder how that works.

I mean unless you're effectively blocking all updates, there is a non-zero chance of the system bricking and that's not a comforting thought for a main system. Never hackintoshed myself, so I'm sure I'm missing something.
 
I mean unless you're effectively blocking all updates, there is a non-zero chance of the system bricking and that's not a comforting thought for a main system.
The only update I had to block in the last 12 months so my system wouldn't get bricked (possibly, it might work anyway, but I've got one 32-bit app that stopped getting updates in 2009 and I'm keeping it) was Catalina.
 
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The only update I had to block in the last 12 months so my system wouldn't get bricked (possibly, it might work anyway, but I've got one 32-bit app that stopped getting updates in 2009 and I'm keeping it) was Catalina.
Good to know. What's that app?
 
Does everything work on a hackintosh? What's the scope of "flawlessly?" iMessages? Facetime? Unlock with Apple Watch? Airdrop?

Yes - all of that works on the machine I'm typing this on.
You choose your components yourself with a hack, and full compatibility is all about choosing compatible components.

Truthfully, many Hack users are desktop people that can often care very little about things like "unlock with watch" anyhow. I like it all to work, but not all care - that's the beauty of having some hardware choice though.
 
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