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Has anyone considered this machine as a new 16-inch Macbook Air? Makes more sense to me. 10gen Intel proc, which is comming later this year, will be more like low-powered, suitable more for Air instead of Pro.
 
It seems unlikely they'd make an Air larger than the Pro. But who knows. ;-)

I just wish they'd up the display resolution so that it would handle the size of the old 17" MBP
 
Hope it's not an overgrown Air - it wouldn't be ideal to have to choose between screen and keyboard in one machine and CPU and GPU in another...
 



Apple plans to release a 16-inch MacBook Pro in September, according to Jeff Lin, an analyst at research firm IHS Markit.

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MacRumors concept of 16-inch MacBook Pro display

Lin believes the 16-inch display will be an LCD supplied by LG Display, with a resolution of 3,072×1,920 pixels, as outlined in IHS's latest Emerging PC Market Tracker report, published Thursday and obtained by Forbes.

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IHS Markit via Forbes

For comparison, the 15-inch MacBook Pro has a resolution of 2,880×1,800 pixels.Korean website The Elec recently reported that Samsung was in talks with Apple about supplying OLED displays for the 16-inch MacBook Pro, but if the IHS Markit report is accurate, the notebook will have a LCD instead.

16-inch MacBook Pro rumors began with well-known analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. Back in February, he said the notebook would launch at some point in 2019 with an "all-new design," but he did not comment on which display technology the notebook would use or share any other details.

As would be expected, Lin claims the 16-inch MacBook Pro will feature a newer processor. No other details are known.

IHS Markit has an entire team dedicated to display-related research, with close ties to the supply chain, so this rumor carries some weight. The research firm accurately revealed the original 10.5-inch iPad Pro's resolution nearly four months in advance and also saw LTPO coming to the Apple Watch.

Apple has never unveiled new Macs at its annual iPhone event in September, often waiting for October instead. Either way, it sounds increasingly likely that a 16-inch MacBook Pro is coming at some point this year.

Article Link: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September With LCD and 3072x1920 Resolution

Do the math... 386.6K P/diagonal inch. Wow! 16x10 format a la Apple screens. Assuming the same new-style keyboard. Wonder if the same processors as early 2019 versions and also same video chips? Was considering new metal from 2017 version MBPr. Now, I say worth waiting for it, even to 2020.
 
If it's Macbook Pro, I am afraid it will be Xeon powered with starting price around 3K. For sure with 256 GB SSD (even the new Mac Pro starting at 6K will have 256 GB SSD as the baseline). Which means that this 16-inch Macbook Pro normally configured (1TB SSD, 32 GB RAM and decent video card) will be for +5K $.
 
If it's Macbook Pro, I am afraid it will be Xeon powered with starting price around 3K. For sure with 256 GB SSD (even the new Mac Pro starting at 6K will have 256 GB SSD as the baseline). Which means that this 16-inch Macbook Pro normally configured (1TB SSD, 32 GB RAM and decent video card) will be for +5K $.

If that’s what it is it’ll be awesome. But two things:

1. I think if they’re putting Xeons in it they’re doing a whole lot more to it as well and it’ll start at at least $5K not $3K

But also 2. If this is what they do then awesome. They’ll finally be making a truly pro MacBook Pro. And if they do, I don’t care how much it is. I’ll take two, at any price.

One can hope.
 
If that’s what it is it’ll be awesome. But two things:

1. I think if they’re putting Xeons in it they’re doing a whole lot more to it as well and it’ll start at at least $5K not $3K

But also 2. If this is what they do then awesome. They’ll finally be making a truly pro MacBook Pro. And if they do, I don’t care how much it is. I’ll take two, at any price.

One can hope.

Why do you want to spend so much money for a PORTABLE computer? If you need power, buy Mac Pro. Do you really do some 3D rendering or mathematical calculations in cafes? Even with Xeons inside it can't be more powerful than a standard 8-core Macbook Pro, there are some technical limitations. For me it's more like a normal Macbook Pro with a price of Mac Pro...
 
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Mobile Xeons are basically high-end mobile Core... There may be a ~100 MHz difference in clock speed, and I think they take ECC RAM, but it's not a big difference (in power or pricing).
 
Why do you want to spend so much money for a PORTABLE computer? If you need power, buy Mac Pro. Do you really do some 3D rendering or mathematical calculations in cafes? Even with Xeons inside it can't be more powerful than a standard 8-core Macbook Pro, there are some technical limitations. For me it's more like a normal Macbook Pro with a price of Mac Pro...

Y’know there are professional professions other than video editing.

Among other things I’m a developer and database administrator, but somewhat more than just that. I’m sometimes crunching enormous amounts of data and I need to be able to do it in multiple locations.

I will gladly pay a premium for a portable Mac Pro if they’d make the damn thing.

Back in the late 90’s when the G3 chips first came out they ran rings around anything g else on the market while also being cool and low power. The first PowerBook G3 series had exactly the same chips in them as the desktop towers. Those laptops were amazing at the time. There hasn’t been anything comparable since, until just starting to get there recently.

In bursts (before they might throttle from heat) the 8-core i9 MacBook Pros can keep up with the base model iMac Pro. So with decent cooling something not far off a portable (low core count) Mac Pro is starting to become a possibility again.

I spend a lot of my day waiting for my Mac while it crunches numbers or data. I can never get enough power - or fast enough storage or enough fast and portable storage. I have the kind of work that pays well when I’m productive. So every ounce of performance and every TB of the fastest SSDs, at any price, pay for themselves quickly and then I’m in front. Any time I spend waiting for my equipment to do something is money lost. And as I said, I need it all in multiple locations.

So yeah... I’ll take a fully maxed out one, at any price, if they’ll ever make it.
 
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I'm not the market for this machine (I'm in the wrong tax bracket for how much this is likely to cost), but I sure hope it is a killer new design. Specifically I hope the keyboard is fixed (both reliability and travel). Apple seems to have listened with regard to the new pro (price excepted) and perhaps they will do the same with this laptop. We don't need it to be 2mm thinner. We need a better keyboard.and better thermals. A thinner bezel, however, would be nice in that that actually leads to real user benefits (smaller overall size where it counts - smaller horizontal and vertical dimensions vs. thickness - yet maintaining a larger screen).
The neurosis about thin is beyond neurotic at Apple. Add some thickness to SUCCESSFULLY address Cooling. Noise. Many users are musicians working sound, or video working/editing sound. They sound like helicopters getting ready to take off when under load. AND ports, MagSafe, all gone for the sake of thin. I do sound. I must spend an additional $200-$400 for a bus powered hub. I must use external DVD drives for some softwares. If I want internet, I must use a hub. The thin thing is way past the "getting old" stage...
 
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Y’know there are professional professions other than video editing.

Among other things I’m a developer and database administrator, but somewhat more than just that. I’m sometimes crunching enormous amounts of data and I need to be able to do it in multiple locations.

I will gladly pay a premium for a portable Mac Pro if they’d make the damn thing.

Back in the late 90’s when the G3 chips first came out they ran rings around anything g else on the market while also being cool and low power. The first PowerBook G3 series had exactly the same chips in them as the desktop towers. Those laptops were amazing at the time. There hasn’t been anything comparable since, until just starting to get there recently.

In bursts (before they might throttle from heat) the 8-core i9 MacBook Pros can keep up with the base model iMac Pro. So with decent cooling something not far off a portable (low core count) Mac Pro is starting to become a possibility again.

I spend a lot of my day waiting for my Mac while it crunches numbers or data. I can never get enough power - or fast enough storage or enough fast and portable storage. I have the kind of work that pays well when I’m productive. So every ounce of performance and every TB of the fastest SSDs, at any price, pay for themselves quickly and then I’m in front. Any time I spend waiting for my equipment to do something is money lost. And as I said, I need it all in multiple locations.

So yeah... I’ll take a fully maxed out one, at any price, if they’ll ever make it.
I do music and video. Heat, throttling, and noise are huge issues. Any recommendations?
 
I do music and video. Heat, throttling, and noise are huge issues. Any recommendations?

If you don’t need mobility like me then the iMac Pro, at the moment, is pretty awesome. Had one for a while and it’s fast and quiet.

Now I have to be more mobile and the latest MBP is almost a portable iMac Pro anyway, when it doesn’t overheat. For that I use large ice packs/cooler packs - sit the MBP on one or two and that keeps it cool and quiet. I have a few in the freezer and I rotate them. Works a treat. Maximizes performance consistently. That’s one option you might consider.
 
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I still can’t quite tell if @Detnator is pulling your leg or serious with the freezer pack suggestion - that, to me, suggests a mismatch between the tool and the job.

I do. No kidding. My 17" gets HOT!!! Freezer packs...

Yep. I’m not pulling any legs. I absolutely do it when I need to.

Mismatch between the tool and the job? Perhaps. That might be subjective. As much as it might seem silly what I’m proposing (but does it really?) it’s (sometimes) the only way to have macOS in a form that is both portable and incredibly powerful. What’s the alternative? Windows? To me that’s a bigger mismatch between the tool and the job - at least given this particular job.

As much as Windows has been improving, and as much as macOS has been declining (yes it really sucks sometimes) Windows still sucks a whole lot more - at least for me and for what I need to do.

So yeah. I have to make my Mac hardware work for me. For the most part it does just fine without ice packs and the problems complained about by some here seem to be usually just the whining and complaining (of people not actually using it) repeating fake news just to bash Apple or something.

That said, on a hot day or when I’m really pushing it, these things can have cooling issues that ice packs always solve for me in seconds. So until they make a high end portable Mac with zero cooling issues... why not?
 
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Yep. I’m not pulling any legs. I absolutely do it when I need to.

Mismatch between the tool and the job? Perhaps. That might be subjective. As much as it might seem silly what I’m proposing (but does it really?) it’s (sometimes) the only way to have macOS in a form that is both portable and incredibly powerful. What’s the alternative? Windows? To me that’s a bigger mismatch between the tool and the job - at least given this particular job.

As much as Windows has been improving, and as much as macOS has been declining (yes it really sucks sometimes) Windows still sucks a whole lot more - at least for me and for what I need to do.

So yeah. I have to make my Mac hardware work for me. For the most part it does just fine without ice packs and the problems complained about by some here seem to be usually just the whining and complaining (of people not actually using it) repeating fake news just to bash Apple or something.

That said, on a hot day or when I’m really pushing it, these things can have cooling issues that ice packs always solve for me in seconds. So until they make a high end portable Mac with zero cooling issues... why not?
The obsession with thin is ridiculous. Put adequate cooling in!!! Many musicians would appreciate THE QUIET!!! And many Pros would appreciate the higher performance. Couldn't care less if it's an eighth of an inch thicker. For Pete's sakes!! And put the MagSafe connector back. For that price, why am I having to spend an additional $250-400 to get back my connectivity....!
 
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The obsession with thin is ridiculous. Put adequate cooling in!!! Many musicians would appreciate THE QUIET!!! And many Pros would appreciate the higher performance. Couldn't care less if it's an eighth of an inch thicker. For Pete's sakes!! And put the MagSafe connector back. For that price, why am I having to spend an additional $250-400 to get back my connectivity....!

What possible connectivity needs that used to be there and now aren’t could you possibly have that add up to $400?
 
Yeah, but that includes a bunch of ports that were never on a MacBook.
My MacBook Pro has mag safe connector, ethernet, firewire 800, thunderbolt 1, three usb2, mic in. audio out, and express card. I use the ethernet, firewire for archiving, still have at least 6 7200rpm drives. SSD thunderbolt drive for video scratch drive. USB for Scarlette 18i20 audio interface, Axion Pro midi Controller and iLok for Pro Tools. I use a UAD Solo Laptop single SHARC processor for plugins while mixing. I also use it as a SD card reader when importing video, photo and audio files.

If I get a new laptop, I need to get a UAD Arrow. as the cheapest alternative to my solo laptop SHARC; (Unless I give up on the UAD platform). Since it is an interface, I then have to seriously alter my workflow. To keep the 18in 20 out configuration, I either have to go with the Apollo, ($2500), or jerry rig something that ties in my usb Scarlette to the Arrow. Even still, I need a hub that lets me get 2-3 usb ins, an external for archiving, etc.. Obviously they saw a market for it when they produced the MacBook Pro I own. But now, as far as they're concerned, to make it 10% thinner, they've let me know they don't give a rats @ss about my particular market group. And I have to look at OWC and other creative ways to compensate. By the way, the OWC hub is NOT bus powered. With my set up, on battery, I could run a remote live session for at least 45 minutes, up to an hour and a half...everything going... !0% thinner!!! Engineering marvel!!! Magsafe connector. Gone. Ethernet. Gone. HDMI. Gone. Mic in. Gone. DVD reader/recorder. Gone. Express card. Gone. Firewire 800. gone But wait, We'll give you four, count em, FOUR usb-c connectors, teh latest greatest most fastest and advancest ports in the universe.But wait, wait, oops, sorry, have to use one for power. Buy a hub!!! instead...

 
That's an old 17" - ExpressCard died out a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. I don't know of any current laptop with an ExpressCard slot (unless, maybe, one of the 17" workstations has one, at least as an option)...
 
That's an old 17" - ExpressCard died out a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. I don't know of any current laptop with an ExpressCard slot (unless, maybe, one of the 17" workstations has one, at least as an option)...
Died? Works great on mine. MacBook Pro 8,3. 2011. In Pro Tools, I put Ozone 8 on the master, UAD's bus compressor at the end, and I get my recordings in broadcast spec in a snap. Many great UAD plugins. The plate reverb. Vertigo compressor. Fairchild. On and on. And even with one blown fan, I still get use outta this laptop. I'm just stating reality. If I go all in and get the latest greatest, most advancest MacBook Pro; in order to maintain the status quo, I have to pony up at least $1,000.00 extra. Or as much as $3,000.00. (if I go the thunderbolt Apollo route) But hey; say I saved 2 years to get that $2,500 UAD Thunderbolt 2 Apollo. Got my rig going, only to find out that Apple doesn't do the thunderbolt 2 thing anymore...now it's the latest greatest USB-C. And adapters aren't 100% comparable with that stuff. Fully one third of the Apple experience now...adapters. And another third: external drives and hubs. Chasing carrots on sticks; the Apple experience. It's sleek, And thin!! It's Faster!! and more advanced!!!! But...It runs hotter and louder, and has less user expandability and connectivity. Less features. And on top of ALL THAT, they can't guarantee me that it will run cool and quiet under load. And the only way they are able to get this tech version of an anorexic to stay on spec? They throttle back either performance or power or both. BS!!!!!
 
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