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16GB 3G iPhone for £169 from ishopuk not on contract!

Actually the basis of ishopuk is the fact they were supposedly selling the iphone without contract and that is the title of this thread incase you hadn't noticed so it is relevant. ishopuk was founded to try and lure iphone customers primarily hence the "i-shopuk"
I don't have any trace of anger towards those who have chosen to give huge sums of money to mobile companies to buy an apple product, so that might just be paranoid projection on the part of some.
And of course it is apples choice how to sell their product, it just disappoints me they haven't offered it in a more flexible way so more people could buy it and use it. And that doesnt mean cheaper nessisarily - the handset costs far more without a contract than with it, it just means your giving your money to apple in a one off payment and not getting tied into years of monthly payments, which I know many would prefer, so I don't know why there is so much offense at this idea of apple actually opening the market - they are doing it later this year.

If people can't see that apple have sold out a very large portion of its consumer market for the promise of huge mobile contracts, and that that stinks a little than I think thats delusional.
 
NEW forum sticking to the subject

I have started up my own forum to try and take some more control over this and bring together those who actually want to seek justice in any way. It's there to share information and progress and to work as a team and support each other. I will be moderating this forum and working with each of you who are serious about pursuing this further.

http://justiceseekers.forumup.co.uk/

Thanks

:)
 
ishopukisfake said:
The Police are actually not that interested in looking into it, my bank has already taken up the case and is investigating with its fraud team. I have never "came back at people with blue language because I didn't get a result I wanted right away" - If someone is being smug, rude and sanctimonious about other people's mistakes and losing money I will tell them though. I don't think your help is required or of any use to be honest, I think your just another poster offended at someone responding to smug mockers like yourself and wanted to put in your penny's worth
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You obviously can't read, I said blue writing, as in text, as in the colour you are using to post in, which you have been asked not to use on a few occasions.

Actually I can help, I have spoken to a Met officer today (I worked with him for a few years and he's a good friend) who would be able to take a look at this, but as you continue to be rude and make assumptions I shall instead sit back and watch.

You don't offend me, I couldn't care less that you lost your money, you are just upset you have been scammed and instead are taking it out on everyone except yourself, a tactic most children use when they are not getting everything their way. You think Apple are at fault and obviously have zero understanding of business, you are simply ranting and to be honest I'm surprised they haven't banned you!
 
marccarter said:
You obviously can't read, I said blue writing, as in text, as in the colour you are using to post in, which you have been asked not to use on a few occasions.

Actually I can help, I have spoken to a Met officer today (I worked with him for a few years and he's a good friend) who would be able to take a look at this, but as you continue to be rude and make assumptions I shall instead sit back and watch.

You don't offend me, I couldn't care less that you lost your money, you are just upset you have been scammed and instead are taking it out on everyone except yourself, a tactic most children use when they are not getting everything their way. You think Apple are at fault and obviously have zero understanding of business, you are simply ranting and to be honest I'm surprised they haven't banned you!
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Does it really matter what text people write in, at the end of the day not just one person has been scammed quite a few and you shouldnt say that you couldn't care less if people or one particular person has been scammed because how would you feel if you were scammed by a company/friend/relative no doubt you would be pretty peeved as I am as I also fell for the scam and now will be more particular in who I purchase goods for. At the end of the day people are going to get annoyed cus is anyone taking this matter seriously-I DOUBT IT.

Hel
 
HGANNON84 said:
Does it really matter what text people write in, at the end of the day not just one person has been scammed quite a few and you shouldnt say that you couldn't care less if people or one particular person has been scammed because how would you feel if you were scammed by a company/friend/relative no doubt you would be pretty peeved as I am as I also fell for the scam and now will be more particular in who I purchase goods for. At the end of the day people are going to get annoyed cus is anyone taking this matter seriously-I DOUBT IT.

Hel
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I don't feel sorry for the guy telling everyone how stupid they are, others I have sympathy for ;) As for the text colour, if you had impaired vision you would struggle to read his text, the default text is black on white for a reason, its clear and most people can read it.
 
ishopukisfake said:
I'm not the baby whining about font colour, I have taken responsibility for my own mistake and I know it was a mistake, but as I have said before that doesnt absolve a fraudster from their knowing deception. There is a difference between making a mistake and knowingly decieving someone - it amazes me people have more sympathy for the frauds than those who have been defrauded often.


If Apple were such business guru's, they would not have many iphone 3G's sitting around still waiting for sale in stores, as they do. And If I had zero understanding of business, then apple and o2 wouldnt have already announced that they are going to release the phone without contract in a few months essentially admitted defeat to the idea people are willing to get tied into pay years of monthly contracts

Im glad the moderators of this forum aren't as petty as you then and allow some criticism to apple to be posted - It is delusional and false to think that everything and anything a company or person does is right.
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Yes, you are of course right, you know everything, I bow down to your superior knowledge. Get in touch with Apple, I'm sure they would pay good money for your expert advice.

As for the text colour see my previous post, it would be nice if you considered that not everyone has perfect vision and that it may be hard to read for some, I couldn't care less what colour you use, I can read it but I know some who wouldn't be able to.
 
ishopukisfake said:
Apple is partly responsible in my view, if they had cared about the consumer market in this country they would have offered the phone with the pay as you go option, not doing so has left the door open for back door trading and people setting up fraud websites like this one.
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Can you please, please stop blaming Apple?

Blame the scammer, maybe even blame yourself for falling for the scam, but please don't claim that Apple are responsible for entering into a commercial agreement with O2.

And, while you're at it, can you stop the petty argument? I'm rapidly losing all the sympathy I had for you.
 
I'd say apple and o2 have provided fertile scamming soil by being so greedy about withholding the pay as you go option, so combined they do have some responsibility, everything is connected.

I don't think the discussion about apples choice to limit consumer choice with the release of the iphone is a petty argument.

I didn't join this forum to garner any sympathy, or mutual shoulders to cry on, I only joined to warn anyone searching on the internet that ishopuk is a fraud
 
Rigsby said:
Can you please, please stop blaming Apple?

Blame the scammer, maybe even blame yourself for falling for the scam, but please don't claim that Apple are responsible for entering into a commercial agreement with O2.

And, while you're at it, can you stop the petty argument? I'm rapidly losing all the sympathy I had for you.
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Maybe even blame yourself for falling for the scam?Does that mean everyone who has fallen for this scam? Maybe if there wasnt that many scams watchdog wouldnt even be on tv, I dont blame myself its not my fault I trust things and they dont work out, maybe there are just to many scams going on in the world when is Justice going to done on the public. Come on people no one is to blame and please dont blame yourselves its Tim whatever his flipping name is fault for letting us trust his scamming ways.

Who has sent letters out so far?
 
:apple: I'd say apple and o2 have provided fertile scamming soil by being so greedy about withholding the pay as you go option, so combined they do have some responsibility, everything is connected. :apple:
 
ishopukisfake said:
I've not really blamed Apple for the fraud of ishopuk

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So lets say the blame stats work out like this

ishopuk.info 98 %
Your ignorance and greed 1%
Apple for not offering the phone already as pay as you go 1%
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OK, so you aren't trying to blame Apple... Then you attribute some of the blame to Apple.

ishopukisfake said:
:apple: I'd say apple and o2 have provided fertile scamming soil by being so greedy about withholding the pay as you go option, so combined they do have some responsibility, everything is connected. :apple:
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Again, you say that Apple and O2 have some responsibility for this.

And your argument is flawed. Essentially any commercial organisation that charges prices you don't like is responsible. You know, Aston Martin charge some pretty hefty prices. But I'm going to be a DB9 from a website that sells them for £9,999 (plus a year's free insurance) - if it turns out to be a scam it's all Aston Martin's fault because they should have made their cars more affordable.

HGANNON84 said:
Maybe even blame yourself for falling for the scam?Does that mean everyone who has fallen for this scam?
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No, and I apologise to anyone who has fallen victim to this fraud who might have taken offence - it certainly was not intended, but I am a little fed up of ishopukisfake dominating the thread with his complaints when many users here could use the thread as a valuable resource.
 
If you were bothered about not clogging up the thread with irrelevant comments you should have stayed quiet. I only joined this forum to start with to let people know ishopuk is a fraud and thats what my posts have been mainly about, I got side tracked a few times by people being rude and smug about falling for the scam, but I don't think discussing iphone's contract deals is off topic on this thread at all.

Someone could start a thread called "ishopuk.info is a fraud" but it might be out of place in this forum, and anyway, over the past few days all of the information anyone needs has been posted on this thread and will come up in search engines
 
It looks like my bank thought I had been defrauded directly from my account, they said today like others that if the money is given out they probably wont be able to get it back. I was fooled by the site as it claimed the bank records of the transactions would make it safe - (I think that should be the case actually, that bank transactions should have the same security as credit card payments, both banks have evidence of the transactions, times and amounts and so on) I am in the process of checking up with the fraud investigation team to see about there progress. There was a meeting with the local halifax manager here and they said they have taken a note of the account and will be checking it, so if others make these accounts known as fraud the evidence against them will mount.
I still think that there is a chance of everyones money being refunded as this goes further and Halifax and Abbey investigate, freeze the funds and close the accounts as they should.
 
ishopuk.info SUSPENDED!

Wow looks like progress with the ishopuk.info site - I e-mailed the hosting site yesterday warning them they had an account and domain name registered by a fraud - go to the site now and its redirected to a page from the host saying the site is suspended, and they are waiting for contact from the owner
:)

www.ishopuk.info/
 
ishopukisfake said:
Wow looks like progress with the ishopuk.info site - I e-mailed the hosting site yesterday warning them they had an account and domain name registered by a fraud - go to the site now and its redirected to a page from the host saying the site is suspended, and they are waiting for contact from the owner
:)

www.ishopuk.info/
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Actually, if you look at the address bar on your browser, it seeks as if www.ishopuk.info is redirecting to sky4you.co.uk and it's that site that has been suspended. The whois for sky4you.co.uk shows a different name (Ryan Westwood), but I can't imagine that ishopuk.info's owner would select some random site to redirect to...
 
I've got a feeling the person running ishopuk probably has multiple scam sites and this one he is linking to is probably one that has been suspended. So he might be using it to try and convince people who have been conned that the site is suspended, so the dust will settle, and he can re-open later.

sky4you looks like a site that was claiming to sell satellite tv to the uk, from an old logged webpage i found.
 
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