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Sorry, but some people really are too thick to understand, so in my view, deserve what they get.

"Tim Blake" the owner of "ishopfrauduk" couldn't have said it better him self, wouldn't surprise me if it is him actually logged into the message boards...
 
I was scamed by ishopuk!!!

Ok I was browsing and came accorss ishopuk site, they claim to have the 3g iphone IN STOCK and for £99 8GB and £169 for 16GB. Now I have never heard of this shop, has ANYONE ever heard of this shop or bought anything through them. One thing thats is a bit strange is they only accept bank payments :confused: very strange!

link: http://www.ishopuk.info/products.php?product=iPhone-3G-16GB-Model

I ordered the nintendo wii fit at £49.99 two weeks ago. So far have not recived my item! I call them, they never answer, I leave messages, they don't responed, I e-mail they don't responed.

It's obvious to me now that I have been dun. This will teach me in the future!!
 
Hmm, there are two options when you checkout on paypal, one is to pay direct from your paypal account into another - in that case the person has no idea about your private data - but there is also the option of paying into paypal using credit card details. This must mean the site owner then gets a record of your credit card details, there is no other way the person running that site could have started using my bank account for withdrawl

Whatsmore I got a confirmation email back i remember from the guy's website with my bank details and account number with the last few digits crossed which suggests paying with bank card into a paypal account lets the site owner see your bank information


uh no...pay pal gets your credit card payment and then gives it to the seller, they never give the seller your credit card details...Also if you get scammed when paying with a credit card u can call your credit card and they will reverse the charge for you...
 
ishopuk.info refunds

If you've bought anything from ishopuk.info please contact your bank and let them know you want any funds you have paid into their account reversed. The banks still have records of the transactions and my bank was willing and able to reverse the transaction of £180. Also let your bank know it is a fraudulent account and they should also investigate it and contact the bank in which the fraud account is.
 
Yes

This is exactly the kind of attitude "Tim Blake", the owner of ishopuk and other frauds online have.

They justify their theft by placing the responsibility and blame on innocent customers "If people are foolish enough to fall for my site then I have a right to steal their money".
The site did look legit and professional, you can't blame the last few humans who have trust in humanity and aren't riddled with cynicism and contempt for the intentional fraud of others. Whatsmore some of the meathods of checking such as whois are something you have to be internet savvy to know about and a bit of nerd with no life, so I don't blame other normal functioning people for not knowing about it. In fact you also had to know about the addresses and be close to them to know they are fake addresses, and that is in the end the only true give away. I was only certain it was fake after I found someone confirm on a message board that the whois addresses were for hospitals and pubs, if you don't know the area you have no way of knowing.


Nazuk I hope no one is around to laugh in your face and call you thick the next time you make a mistake, or maybe they already do and thats where you learned it...

I second that!!!
 
Phil A, it seems you are the one who needs to check the facts before invented false information to defend apple at all costs...

"O2 is understood to have agreed a margin on the retail price - to be confirmed tomorrow - but will return to Apple as much as 40% of any revenues it makes from customers' use of the device." The Guardian Monday September 17 2007
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/sep/17/mobilephones.apple

"The agreement with O2 is reported to include Apple receiving a continuing share of the revenue generated for the network operator." - BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6272226.stm

The Guardian article is very interesting, it reveals the antics apple went to to get the best possible deal for the mobile network
I did check my facts which is how I knew that O2 give apple none of the monthly revenue on the 3G iPhone - those sources you quote all relate to the original iPhone...
 
uh no...pay pal gets your credit card payment and then gives it to the seller, they never give the seller your credit card details...Also if you get scammed when paying with a credit card u can call your credit card and they will reverse the charge for you...

I was definitely scammed by using paypal, it is a very insecure system and have also read about many others who have had problems with it. I totally avoid using it now on any site.
The site owner could be anyone, and they do get all your personal details such as name, address, post code phone number, so they can easily then use that for identity theft.
 
I was definitely scammed by using paypal, it is a very insecure system and have also read about many others who have had problems with it. I totally avoid using it now on any site.
The site owner could be anyone, and they do get all your personal details such as name, address, post code phone number, so they can easily then use that for identity theft.


Lol maybe you were scammed by a phishing site disguised as paypal...you who are new to the internet scamming 'business', there are sites that look just like an authentic site (pay pal for example) and you enter you information and get scammed, real bad cuz they could steal your identity like that...do look at URLS before clicking on links that just say pay pal for example

and the owners of pay pal are ebay buddy...
 
Apple did take 40% of all mobile contracts on the original iphone, and also agreed to not selling the phone as a pay as you go option in that contract so they could make more money by limiting apple customers choice and forcing anyone who wanted a phone into an 18 month contract.
They knew they were limiting customer choice when they signed the deal, and still are doing so by giving over that control of their product to another company now.
 
Please don't use ebay as a sign of credibility, more fraud goes on through ebay each day than any other site. I've used paypal to sell things on one of my sites before and the checkout and secure icon was all there. I am now very cautions about using credit card details online for any site other than large reputable businesses like amazon.
 
Hey Bleer Buddy, surely your not using ebay as a sign of credibility lol, more fraud goes on through ebay each day than any other site. You maybe right about it being a fake paypal checkout, ive used paypal to sell things on one of my sites before and the checkout and secure icon was all there though. I am now very cautions about using credit card details online for any site other than large reputable businesses like amazon.

Yes, scams do occur in ebay, thats because you are dealing with an auction site where people sell to each other...ebay goes through measures to try and minimize this...surely though u arent suggesting that ebay is behind the scams? and that pay pal gave away your accoutn information? because if so you should sue and make yourself a LOT of money...
 
IshopUK is Fake

If you've bought anything from ishopuk.info please contact your bank and let them know you want any funds you have paid into their account reversed. The banks still have records of the transactions and my bank was willing and able to reverse the transaction. Also let your bank know it is a fraudulent account and they should also investigate it and contact the bank in which the fraud account is.

So you are saying that some backs are reversing the transactions? Like a mug I too have ordered from this guy (lesson well learnt now I can tell you !) but my bank wont / cant reverse the payment. What banks are? Can anyone tell me please - just so I can then say to my bank that such and such are reimbursing their customers etc.

Thanks very much.
 
www.ishopuk.info - report to these addresses

I have reported www.ishopuk.info to the following addresses and urge anyone else to do the same so that complaints are significant enough to be taken seriously. One person on this site has noticed that www.ishopuk.info was not his only site. He's still scamming others and should be stopped.

Internet Fraud
Metropolitan Police Service
New Scotland Yard
Broadway
London
SW1H 0BG

Abbey National PLC
Abbey National House
2 Triton Square
Regent’s Place
London
NW1 3AN


The Abbey account number and sort code I had was:

Account Number 10748695
Sort Code 09-01-27
Amount ****
Date Paid in ******


My bank (Barclays) is refusing to refund my transfer at the moment but I'm not giving up. I'm taking it higher.

Good luck to the rest of you.
 
Barclays payback!

I have reported www.ishopuk.info to the following addresses and urge anyone else to do the same so that complaints are significant enough to be taken seriously. One person on this site has noticed that www.ishopuk.info was not his only site. He's still scamming others and should be stopped.

Internet Fraud
Metropolitan Police Service
New Scotland Yard
Broadway
London
SW1H 0BG

Abbey National PLC
Abbey National House
2 Triton Square
Regent’s Place
London
NW1 3AN


The Abbey account number and sort code I had was:

Account Number 10748695
Sort Code 09-01-27
Amount ****
Date Paid in ******


My bank (Barclays) is refusing to refund my transfer at the moment but I'm not giving up. I'm taking it higher.

Good luck to the rest of you.

I am also with Barclays and have been told to contact the police as what I did was as good as giving them cash and to go into my local barclays bank. I find this hard to believe since this account is obviousley used for fraud. The police gave me the trading standards number and I passed my details of all the events to the call centre operator that I spoke to and was told to send a letter requesting goods within 30 days with proof of postage and keep a copy for myself or they are in breach of contract with no shipping date. I searched the address and found the post code is fake and to be honest it's clearly a scam anyway so contracts mean squat to these guys. so can't see any point in doing this. I searched the ip address of the site previousley and it was based someplace near newyork can't remeber exactly and the server is now showing

"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
Apache/1.3.41 Server at ishopuk.info Port 80"


I have wrote to watchdog for hope more than anything. The police have all the details what more can be done? How can I take this higher? Clutching at straws seems to be the case!

Would this involve team work? if so and you also want to form a group maybe of some sort then maybe more minds are better than one. Contact me if you want to, I am open to any suggestions.
 
Report www.ishopuk.info

Thanks Simon, I've sent a complaint to Watchdog through their website. I might write a letter to them too just to keep the name 'ishopuk' coming up as a red flag!

Here's the address for anyone else who wants to have a go.

BBC Watchdog, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TS

Good idea to stick together as a group. I think the more people that make a fuss, the more likely something will get done.
 
I am also with Barclays and have been told to contact the police as what I did was as good as giving them cash and to go into my local barclays bank. I find this hard to believe since this account is obviousley used for fraud. The police gave me the trading standards number and I passed my details of all the events to the call centre operator that I spoke to and was told to send a letter requesting goods within 30 days with proof of postage and keep a copy for myself or they are in breach of contract with no shipping date. I searched the address and found the post code is fake and to be honest it's clearly a scam anyway so contracts mean squat to these guys. so can't see any point in doing this. I searched the ip address of the site previousley and it was based someplace near newyork can't remeber exactly and the server is now showing

"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
Apache/1.3.41 Server at ishopuk.info Port 80"


I have wrote to watchdog for hope more than anything. The police have all the details what more can be done? How can I take this higher? Clutching at straws seems to be the case!

Would this involve team work? if so and you also want to form a group maybe of some sort then maybe more minds are better than one. Contact me if you want to, I am open to any suggestions.

Team work is probably the way forward - perhaps if we all contact Watchdog they will be more inclined to look into this than if only 1 or 2 people do so.

It would mean that we do all pull together and any bitching etc that has occurred on here isn't going to help anyone at all - its a waste of time and energy - at the end of the day we are all after the same thing - to stop these guys. It doesnt matter who has / hasnt fallen for the scam or whether some people think they are stupid to have fallen for it - those who have, have all learnt a lesson and dont need to be reminded of this but would probably appreciate a bit of help from the internet gurus who have said you should have checked this that and the other. They obviously know where and how to find bits of information that the rest of us don't......

Someone has mentioned that somebody has found out that 'Tim Blake' isnt just trading as IShop UK - would they mind posting on here for others to see the names of these other 'companies' ? Have these also been passed on to Fraud Squad etc? If he is trading as other companies it is only fair that others are aware of what else he calls himself. Sorry if this has already been done and I have missed it.....

 
Im sorry.........Did you people transfer the money even after reading this thread, or come on here after you realised something was wrong?:confused:
 
Im sorry.........Did you people transfer the money even after reading this thread, or come on here after you realised something was wrong?:confused:

I can say that I came on here after I realised there was a problem.... If people read on here what we have all been saying THEN transfer the money then more fool them. I am only saying that there has been some bitching going on which I think is unnecessary...... People have made mistakes and have admitted it and are now after some help / guidance etc but if, when you make this sort of mistake people have a dig and make you feel even worse about yourself / the situtation than you already do then people arent going to admit to the fact they have been caught out which means less people are going to pull together to try and stop these @*$*%@* !!!!
 
The Police have just contacted me and are helping a great deal. the post code is real but like the others have said its a hotel 31 LEICESTER SQUARE LONDON WC2H 7LA. I am waiting for Trading Standards to HOPEFULLY Contact me and if/once they have I am to inform any more info to the police. As far as getting our money back that is still a long way off. I hope if we all pull together and relay any info we may have that could help we may get results. The sort code is a ABBY branch in london so hopefully he/she left some paper trail for the police to track him/her down. I'm guessing it's an alias name. Until trading standards or watchdog get involved the police are not able to take things further. Maybe if we all make this aware to trading standards or watchdog then this could get dealt with quicker. All the details I have are

Created On:15-Jul-2008 13:03:53 UTC
Last Updated On:29-Jul-2008 14:32:10 UTC
Expiration Date:15-Jul-2009 13:03:53 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R139-LRMS)
Registrant Name:TIM BLAKE
Registrant Organization:ISHOP UK

TIM BLAKE
31 LEICESTER SQUARE
LONDON
WC2H 7LA

+44.2030869057

iphoneshopuk@gmail.com

Bank Name: Abbey
Sort Code: 09-01-27
Account Number: 10748695
 
I can't sit for long on this I had to phone trading standards to get more info on what's going to happen. They may not even contact me back and they will have to go through the courts to persue this if they believe it to be a scam. Even if it is found to be a scam trading standards won't be refunding anyone ( which I assumed anyway) I believe the best way forward is to target the banks. If TIM BLAKE has opened a account under false information then surely they have some responsibility for allowing this to happen. Any ideas???
 
Ways forward

I suppose the main aim with Trading Standards, Police, Watchdog and the like is to get this persons stopped if at all possible.... a) from trading as IShop UK and b) as trading as anyone else.

With regard to money - it seems some banks are and some banks arent refunding.

Barclays and Alliance & Leicester currently aren't. Both of them are advising us to go to the police etc which we have all done. Maybe another phone call followed by a formal letter to head of customer services or someone higher - who I dont know.... just saying that we have done as they suggested (go to the police etc) but is there anything they can do to reimburse us? They have all the account information etc surely there is something they can do to help their clients? Maybe tell them that some of the other banks are reimbursing their clients so why can't they do it?

When we contacted the police they said they needed evidence that it was fraud and that we had to supply this information. They suggested that maybe IShop UK had gone bust and to investigate this avenue through a solicitor.....

Does anyone have access to Companies House? Would it be worth seeing if he is registered on there?
 
Trading standards informed me of Companies House and I also checked this and no results. since the business address is also suspicious then I'm sure there would be sufficient evidence that this is not a business that has just gone bust. The police did mention that to me also but have since started to realise this has all the signs of a scam. I agree in what claireS said that we should ask Barclays and Alliance & Leicester WHY they are not refunding and other banks are.
 
Trading standards informed me of Companies House and I also checked this and no results. since the business address is also suspicious then I'm sure there would be sufficient evidence that this is not a business that has just gone bust. The police did mention that to me also but have since started to realise this has all the signs of a scam. I agree in what claireS said that we should ask Barclays and Alliance & Leicester WHY they are not refunding and other banks are.

If it isnt registered on Companies House surely this would be enough for the police to take us seriously ?

It seems to me that no-one who has the power to do anything about this is really interested..... Perhaps not enough people have reported it? All we know of the people who have been taken in are the people on this forum.....
 
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