bretm said:
FYI: For the past two years, Apple has announced new versions of FCP at NAB, but they are not available until sometime in the summer.
No Keynote, simply a press release on Sunday and an updated Apple homepage.
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FYI: For the past two years, Apple has announced new versions of FCP at NAB, but they are not available until sometime in the summer.
No Keynote, simply a press release on Sunday and an updated Apple homepage.
This of course should also coincide with the release of the new Quicktake and
QuicktakeHD line of video cameras from Apple. Can't wait... the Apple Store offering for video cameras has gotten pretty sparten as of late. Especially since dropping all Sony products, even Sony still cameras.
QuicktakeHD line of video cameras from Apple. Can't wait... the Apple Store offering for video cameras has gotten pretty sparten as of late. Especially since dropping all Sony products, even Sony still cameras.
I can't see Apple jumping into Pro video cameras... just wouldn't work.
I believe the last three years for the releases of FCP 4, FCP HD (4.5), and Final Cut Studio, they held events Sunday night. Not a keynote, but more of an industry gathering.
And Monday my boss and I both received e-mails to a special reception for educational users of FCP. (Our community college has been offering FCP courses (now FC Studio) since 2002)
Here's the invite, sans RSVP link...
I believe the last three years for the releases of FCP 4, FCP HD (4.5), and Final Cut Studio, they held events Sunday night. Not a keynote, but more of an industry gathering.
And Monday my boss and I both received e-mails to a special reception for educational users of FCP. (Our community college has been offering FCP courses (now FC Studio) since 2002)
Here's the invite, sans RSVP link...
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sparksinspace said:
My guess is that because the 12" LCD is narrower than a full size keyboard you may as well put in a 13.5" wide format screen and make the macbook shorter. I think overall you can make a smaller notebook if the LCD is the same size and SHAPE as the keyboard.
I'm looking for a small and very ruggid notebook. The wide screen would be nice for some things but not vertical shots made in a DSLR with it's 2:3 frame.
Any chance of Merom making an appearance in the 17"? If not, I'll continue waiting patiently. 
I understand the value in the Duo Cores, but I'm looking to replace my G4 'book and my desktop dual G4 with a monster machine.
B
I understand the value in the Duo Cores, but I'm looking to replace my G4 'book and my desktop dual G4 with a monster machine. B
Time and time again...
I can't recall all the times I've read on these forums that there's no point in having both a iBook 12" and Powerbook 12" because they are so similar. So much so that the 12" PowerBook didn't really get revised in the last PowerPC revision with the 15" and 17" got better screen real estate. While I see major differences between the 14" iBook and 15" PowerBook, I can't see as large of a difference between the 12" models. That being said, going to 13.3 inches allows for apple to tone down there portable line and streamline it a little further. For example, all 13.3" models be called a MacBook but come in multiple (3 configurations?). The first being the budget config. with a core solo, integrated graphics, combo drive, etc. to replace the 12" iBook at $999-1099. A middle line model (replacing the 14" iBook) with 1.67 core duo at around $1299-1399, integrated graphics, super drive. Then a last config. to replace the 12" PowerBook with 1.83 core duo, superdrive, dedicated graphics card (Radeon x1300?) with 64/128 mb of vram priced at $1499-1699. Oh, one last thing to seperate them will be bells and whistles of course. Base 512 in the low end model, 512 in the middle end model, and 2x512 (1 gig) in the high end config. That's my best guess at least, makes sense to me too - especially if these new models are like 1-1.1" thin, remain around or under the current weight of the smaller screen 12" models of 4.6-4.9 pounds, although they may differ on battery life, unless of course we see the low-voltage core's in there but I doubt that due to their high price tags, but maybe on a high end configuration to replace the 12" PowerBook. But I always thought the only hardware (not design) difference between the 12" iBook and 12" PowerBook was the dedicated graphics card and superdrive, and a slightly higher-clocked processor. I think these two lines could and should merge seamlessly but it's the design that will make people upset. Whether it's wanting the durability and trademark white of the iBooks, the Aluminum of the PowerBooks, or those who want to see something in black to match their iPod/Nano.
I can't recall all the times I've read on these forums that there's no point in having both a iBook 12" and Powerbook 12" because they are so similar. So much so that the 12" PowerBook didn't really get revised in the last PowerPC revision with the 15" and 17" got better screen real estate. While I see major differences between the 14" iBook and 15" PowerBook, I can't see as large of a difference between the 12" models. That being said, going to 13.3 inches allows for apple to tone down there portable line and streamline it a little further. For example, all 13.3" models be called a MacBook but come in multiple (3 configurations?). The first being the budget config. with a core solo, integrated graphics, combo drive, etc. to replace the 12" iBook at $999-1099. A middle line model (replacing the 14" iBook) with 1.67 core duo at around $1299-1399, integrated graphics, super drive. Then a last config. to replace the 12" PowerBook with 1.83 core duo, superdrive, dedicated graphics card (Radeon x1300?) with 64/128 mb of vram priced at $1499-1699. Oh, one last thing to seperate them will be bells and whistles of course. Base 512 in the low end model, 512 in the middle end model, and 2x512 (1 gig) in the high end config. That's my best guess at least, makes sense to me too - especially if these new models are like 1-1.1" thin, remain around or under the current weight of the smaller screen 12" models of 4.6-4.9 pounds, although they may differ on battery life, unless of course we see the low-voltage core's in there but I doubt that due to their high price tags, but maybe on a high end configuration to replace the 12" PowerBook. But I always thought the only hardware (not design) difference between the 12" iBook and 12" PowerBook was the dedicated graphics card and superdrive, and a slightly higher-clocked processor. I think these two lines could and should merge seamlessly but it's the design that will make people upset. Whether it's wanting the durability and trademark white of the iBooks, the Aluminum of the PowerBooks, or those who want to see something in black to match their iPod/Nano.
ChrisA said:
Come again? Apple's website lists the 12" PB as having a full size keyboard. I own one, and it does not feel narrow to me. Looking at the photo gallery, it appears that they use the same keyboard in the 12" that they use in the 17". I haven't taken a ruler into an Apple store to confirm it, but by all observations I've made, the 12" LCD is not any narrower than a full size keyboard.
-Staunch supporter of keeping the 12" form factor around
Plecky said:
It's true I care very much about design. The 12" powerbook is IMO much nicer than the 12" iBook. Less borders around the screen, aluminum, good keyboard etc. It would be really sad if Apple dropped the small pros. Look at that Asustech. The presence of an above 2GHz model shows there's a market for small but powerful portables, right?
CrazyWingman said:
The keyboards are indeed the same in the whole powerbook line. I think they use the same in the MBP too. Would't it be cool to keep the 12" powerbook form factor but having a widescreen display inside? Sort of making the the border of the screen very thin so a WXGA fits in there? You could use the space in the top for the iSight.
I join CrazyWingman for keeping the 12" form factor. Add it to your sig if you think the same.
Heat and Sound?
That's true but maybe by making it wider they can allow for better heat-dissapation, larger fan out the back or something? Same reason people are saying the 17" might get better heat dissapation then the 15", maybe such is the case with the 13.3" vs. 12.1"? Regardless, maybe that extra wide room will allow for speakers near the side of the keyboard like they do in the 15/17" models. I know on the iBooks they put the speakers above the keyboards, but haven't spent enough quality time with the 12" PowerBook, but do the speakers hide under the keyboard? That's my best guess but I figured you be the one to ask.
CrazyWingman said:
That's true but maybe by making it wider they can allow for better heat-dissapation, larger fan out the back or something? Same reason people are saying the 17" might get better heat dissapation then the 15", maybe such is the case with the 13.3" vs. 12.1"? Regardless, maybe that extra wide room will allow for speakers near the side of the keyboard like they do in the 15/17" models. I know on the iBooks they put the speakers above the keyboards, but haven't spent enough quality time with the 12" PowerBook, but do the speakers hide under the keyboard? That's my best guess but I figured you be the one to ask.
The 17" MBP isn't much of a stretch, considering Apple's timing seems so disrupted this year.
Why didn't they wait to introduce Aperture 1.1 at a show like this? I suppose it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the show--someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Why didn't they wait to introduce Aperture 1.1 at a show like this? I suppose it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the show--someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Plecky said:
No. The speakers on the 12" PB are actually quite clever. They are hidden on the back of the computer. When the computer is open, the sound hits the screen and bounces back at the user. It's acoustically genius. My friend has a 12" iBook, which has the same speakers but they sit right above the keyboard, pointing up. He doesn't get nearly as nice an auido experience as I do.
rxse7en said:Any chance of Merom making an appearance in the 17"? If not, I'll continue waiting patiently.
No. Merom will not appear in any Macs until late 06 or more likely early 07.
Are you just waiting for a new 17" MBP, or are you specifically waiting for Merom? If it's the latter, why?
MrCrowbar said:
Good point, had I not gone all out on my current notebook and had a portable to last me a good wait I probably would've waited for the smallest pro-line. Last year before the Intel announcement (obviously not after the announcement) I was very close to picking up a 12" PowerBook but it lacked some "power" features. Namely the widescreen display which I personally prefer, a higher resolution (1024 x 768, c'mon), backlit keyboard (not huge but something I always thought was cool/unique by apple), ram (only up to 1.256, even the 12" iBook now can handle more, why not build in 512 or at least allow two slots for up to 2 gigs?), less connections (although does have a modem port unlike my MBP) but at the time I was thinking where's the PC Card slot (now I have a express slot and am awaiting a SD card reader to put in there or a smaller form factor FrontRow remote or iPod that could just hide in there, keep on shrinking nano and/or FR-remote. Also think you have to use a mini-DVI adapter which makes sense but hopefully with the new form factor and/or removal of the modem they can throw a full-size DVI input on them. There's just little things like that, and of course now you have to take things like IR-port for front row and isight camera into considoration. But I always wanted the 12" PowerBook to posess a lot of those little things that can be found on the 15"/17" relatives. To sum up, heard of intel switch last june, bought a mac mini to get me by, waited and hoped for a powerful 12/13.3" IntelBook (iBook or Power), got a 15" MacBook Pro, a little bigger then I wanted - definitely all the features I wanted (well I take that back, would've liked a 8x dual-layer superdrive). In a year or less time I'm sure I'll be wishing I had a 64-bit processor (ala merom), and eventually down the road wishing I had better battery life (when this kind of power can be maintained for 6 hours instead of the 3-3.5 I regularly get), and a different optical drive when HD-DVD/Blu-Ray Readers/Writers hit market. For that last one regarding the optical drive though, I may be in the market for a new computer by the time that HD-war is over and there able to be in laptops affordably so... That's my ramblin'
What kind of graphics card do you think the 17" MacBook Pro will have? I'm guessing either X1800/256 or X1600/512.
This would be nice to see the 17" MBP but I would also hope that it will come out with some newer specs over the MBP's right now...
...and battery?
On that note, what kind of battery/battery life do you think it will have? I mean, larger screen and assuming updated brightness... More powerful graphics card, possibly more power hungry? 100+ whr battery with similar 3-3.5 hour battery life or same battery as 15" MBP with 2-3 hour battery? Usually large screen laptops get awful battery life, that's why I'm amazed the currently 17" PowerBook gets 5.5 hours, or so they claim, don't know if I buy it...
macgeek2005 said:
On that note, what kind of battery/battery life do you think it will have? I mean, larger screen and assuming updated brightness... More powerful graphics card, possibly more power hungry? 100+ whr battery with similar 3-3.5 hour battery life or same battery as 15" MBP with 2-3 hour battery? Usually large screen laptops get awful battery life, that's why I'm amazed the currently 17" PowerBook gets 5.5 hours, or so they claim, don't know if I buy it...
macgeek2005 said:
It is about time that Apple give an option of either ATi Mobility FireGL or nVidia Quadra in 15" and 17" MacBook Pro because they are PRO models! And they should offer at least WSXGA (1600x1200 or 1680 X 1050) screen resolution for 15"...