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17'' MacBook Pro at NAB?

The 17" MBP pro is very tempting to replace my Powermac, but i think the new powermac will be faster and speed is more important than portability.

but if there is no much in it between the new powermac and 17" MBP i will get the 17" MBP:D
 
sartinsauce said:
Additionally, things have been pretty quiet lately on the hardware front. It's time for Cupertino to drop a new bomb.

Then again, slow and steady is supposed to win the race...
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What about a 19" or 20" MacBook pro as a showstopper:D
 
syklee26 said:
interesting how no one talks about the price of this thing.

if they do charge $2499 for this, then it is possible that 15 inch one's price might fall.

if they charge $2999, then back to the old days.
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Why would you expect a price increase when the 15 didn't get one?
 
god, i'm so fed up with all this crap ..........i'm about to just buy an ibook...i need an affordable mac laptop..........macbook MAYBE released in may, shipping in what...june july??!?.ldskfl;aksdjfasldfkjalskdfjalskdfj
 
Di9it8 said:
What about a 19" or 20" MacBook pro as a showstopper:D
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Or a 50" Macbook pro.
They could fit a CRT screen into the roof of a suitcase
Also really big keys in the bottom have that you have to punch with your fist to type.
God knows how you'd manage to press Ctrl Alt Delete if you running windows under Boot Camp. (Two fists and a foot)
 
20" would be nice for video editors indeed. And there would be enough space for a num pad :eek:
When I look at my 20" screen... 20" is not too big. Of course that won't fit into a backback but the 17" does not either. So the MacBook Pro goes in 5" steps now? 20", 15", 10" ? I'm sure you can squeeze the standard keyboard into a 10 laptop (maybe diagonally :p ) :D

I like the punching idea ;)
Makes you do some sports while working.
 
Photorun said:
It will be years before apps or the OS for that matter are all truly 64 bit aware, anybody waiting for Meron under some reason OTHER than a little bit better battery life and a slight boost in speed (having nothing to do with 64 bit BTW) are totally delusional and are very misguided.
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AidenShaw tends to think Merom is da Bomb and Yonah laptops are a waste of time. :rolleyes:


whoooaaahhhh said:
This is probably not going to happen, it's the wrong environment to announce a MacBook 13.3". NAB is a professional video show. I worked at the Sony booth last year and I can tell you most people there are looking for professional products.
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So are you saying no pro would ever use a 12 or 13" laptop? But, if the thing ends up having integrated graphics, well, yeah, better announce the MacBook at a Circus convention or something. But if it has an X1400/X1600 128MB in the high end, no reason Apple wouldn't announce. Especially if it is replacing the iBook AND Powerbook 12".
 
Photorun said:
Then again, if the 17" is at the, IMHO, RIDICULOUS price point of $3000 or $3200 that extra 2" doesn't mean jack. You can get, admittedly crappy, peecee Windoze laptops with 17" of screen real estate for well under two grand. Yeah yeah and they're only peecees, whatever, Apple's mark up on their 17"s are close to criminal.
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To get a 17" Dell brick even similar to Apple's specs costs well over $3000. Put both at 2.16 processor and 100GB 7200rpm drive (using a $2900 MBP as comparison, assume $3500 or less for a 17" MBP, I'd say). And the Dell doesn't have Gb networking, 6 pin Firewire, a screen that can match, etc. And, of course, no OSX. It does have more choices in RAM and graphics, and a higher resolution screen (but not as pretty), but if you go to top of the line on graphics, it's over $4K. And if you bump RAM to 4GB, the price is over $6000.

Sony doesn't seem to have a 17" this week, or I'd use them instead of Dell. Better screen is available from Sony, like Apple's. And usually Gb ethernet, IIRC. Dell's top of the line Ultrasharp screen is only as good as Sony's standard model.

Hardly suggests that Apple is expensive for no reason.
 
Mitch1984 said:
Or a 50" Macbook pro.
They could fit a CRT screen into the roof of a suitcase
Also really big keys in the bottom have that you have to punch with your fist to type.
God knows how you'd manage to press Ctrl Alt Delete if you running windows under Boot Camp. (Two fists and a foot)
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No, just a 15" model with a built-in DLP projector on the bottom.

Though, I like your keyboard idea. Reminiscent of Twister. Could make for some interesting new video games....
 
Software Possibilities

It'd be nice if Apple released a new version of Shake, streamlined to go with the Final Cut Studio interface and offered it for a lower price. Maybe have a Final Cut Studio package as is, and Final Cut Studio Extreme package with Shake. I'd love for Shake to be affordable - it'd be a great program to learn.
 
17" Dell Cost Comparison

JAT said:
To get a 17" Dell brick even similar to Apple's specs costs well over $3000. Put both at 2.16 processor and 100GB 7200rpm drive (using a $2900 MBP as comparison, assume $3500 or less for a 17" MBP, I'd say). And the Dell doesn't have Gb networking, 6 pin Firewire, a screen that can match, etc. And, of course, no OSX. It does have more choices in RAM and graphics, and a higher resolution screen (but not as pretty), but if you go to top of the line on graphics, it's over $4K. And if you bump RAM to 4GB, the price is over $6000.

Hardly suggests that Apple is expensive for no reason.
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I just went to Dell's site, starting with a base model Inspiron E1705 I selected Core Duo at 2.16GHz, 1 GB Dual Channel Ram (free upgrade right now), UXGA 17" Screen, 100 GB 7200RPM HD, 8x DVD+/-RW, 802.11g, Bluetooth, and a 256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400, this gives a current price of $2,411. Switch to a 100 GB 5400 RPM HD and and a Core Duo at 2.0GHz and your price is $1,861. I would love to see an Apple 17" MacBook Pro at both/either of those price points.

Apple charges a premium for their hardware/software package.
 
JAT said:
No, just a 15" model with a built-in DLP projector on the bottom.

Though, I like your keyboard idea. Reminiscent of Twister. Could make for some interesting new video games....
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Lol. I can picure two people twisting around on that huge keyboard for shortcut combos. :D :p
 
ImAlwaysRight said:
I wonder if the 17" laptops will also have an underclocked GPU like the 15" models do? :(
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I thought ATI cards could throttle down on their own when run on battery. Kinda sad it's underclocked even when plugged in. I guess this is heat related, the MBP seems to get really hot.
 
sdavis8888 said:
UXGA 17" Screen, 100 GB 7200RPM HD, 8x DVD+/-RW, 802.11g, Bluetooth, and a 256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400, this gives a current price of $2,411. Switch to a 100 GB 5400 RPM HD and and a Core Duo at 2.0GHz and your price is $1,861.

Apple charges a premium for their hardware/software package.
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Eggzacktly, but for some people here the truth hurts, Apple charges ridiculous premiums for certain products all in hardware markups. I DON'T want OS Xon a FUGLY peecee mind you, I hope they never open that up, Apple does need to make money and the money is in the hardware, just I wish they wouldn't pad their margins out so blatantly that we still get that "I'd have bought a Mac but they're so expensive" crap. If they'd just lower the price a little they could realistically catch a lot more market share, instead they're still considered computer for those with money but not "real" computers (whatever the heck that means).

15" models should all be under $2000 with the top one being maybe $1999, the 17" should start at $2199 or something or less. It's not like the screen cost that much more wholesale and those who want a 17" get a 17", those who want 15" want a 15", even if they were the same price they'd still probably sell the same. But nooo, Apple thinks bigger, let's jack that price up so our profit margin is at least double it's cost ($1500) which I would bet anyone it is. 1/2 profit? Say it never happened naysayers? It was well known the original Apple Classic was 1/2 all profit.
 
Every year there's a thread of some wonderful piece of hardware supposedly going to be released at NAB, and every year it's just a new version of FCP and Motion, or Shake, or some other software. Granted, last year they were demoing Tiger, but that wasn't that revolutionary at the time.

And I know some of the pros will disagree, but I don't think Apple looks at NAB as the platform to launch a 17" MBP. Pro editors, for the most part, don't use laptops. We want loaded G5s with 4, 8, or better yet 16 GB of RAM, massive hard drive space and, if you're a serious pro, you're NOT using firewire to connect your camera or deck, you've got an AJA or similar card handling all that stuff. Last I saw, PB's had no free PCI slots. They may be good for editing news or other small projects, but to 90% of the people at NAB, if you're editing video, laptops don't cut it. If I had to do half the projects I do on our 3 month old loaded PowerBook, I'd go insane waiting for it to render, compared with my almost-3-year old Dual 2.0 G5.

I'll be at the right side doors to the Lower South Hall at 9am Monday, but I'm fully confident that there's not going to be a 17" MacBookPro banner hanging off the corner of the building Apple always has their banners on. Simple as that.
 
DHagan4755 said:
ThinkSecret has posted an article also saying there will be a 17-inch MacBook Pro at NAB. Expect an announcement Sunday night?
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Since the TS article says: " Apple is expected to roll-out the 17-inch MacBook Pro in the next week, sources report, but a MacBook announcement is no longer slated to arrive in tandem, as previously reported.," I kinda expect the MacBook to be announced next week. TS has been way off base this year. :p
 
Hmm...

JAT said:
No, just a 15" model with a built-in DLP projector on the bottom.
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Actually that's a really really good idea... I stake the claim right now as having said that something to this effect is both in the works and totally going to exist a year or two from now.

It wouldn't be too hard, cept for the mad cooling you'd need...:rolleyes:
 
Probably a stupid question (but you would expect that from mainly a PC guy :p ) but do you think, IF a 17" MBP is announced and IF they are shipping in the next couple of weeks, the prices on the exisitng MBPs would drop? I was going to go last night to pick one up and I decided to wait when I started to read all these rumors.... I REALLY want one now, though! It's about time I upgrade my PB 160 :D I wish I was going to NAB this year! It's the first time I haven't gone in 7 years... :mad:
 
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