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We just gotta hope that apple surprise on sunday. They might even launch 30inch mbp's. What a product that would be.:rolleyes:
 
Just had a brainwave. If NAB is a pro event and it seems that an Apple tablet would be a pro Product, whats stoppping one of them being launched on sunday. Tablets would be superb for pro people and it seems that NAB would be a great place to launch it/
 
Butthead said:
...the 1st DVD burner drives that Apple was the 1st to the market with...
Actually, Compaq definitely announced DVD burners before Apple did (both were using the Pioneer drive).

They shipped at about the same time - there have been conflicting reports on which was first (it was within a few days).

Anyway you put it, to say "Apple was the 1st" is somewhat questionable and misleading.
 
Apple Was First To Include 2 Six Pin Powered Firewire 400 Ports

AidenShaw said:
Actually, Compaq definitely announced DVD burners before Apple did (both were using the Pioneer drive).

They shipped at about the same time - there have been conflicting reports on which was first (it was within a few days).

Anyway you put it, to say "Apple was the 1st" is somewhat questionable and misleading.
I think it's safe to say that Apple's most famous "First" is for including two 6 pin powered FW400 ports on personal computers since January 5, 1999 when they were introduced in the original 300 MHz Blue & White PowerMac G3 Towers more than 7 yearas ago. :)

Nobody on the PC side of the fence followed Apple on that front for years. You had to add a PCI card to get those ports into a PC for the longest time. And while Sony put ONE 4-pin UNPOWERED FW400 port on their VAIO line first, those were leaves unable to power any external FW devices.
 
Clever wordsmithing, like many of Apple's "firsts"

Multimedia said:
I think it's safe to say that Apple's most famous "First" is for including two 6 pin powered FW400 ports on personal computers since January 5, 1999 when they were introduced in the original 300 MHz Blue & White PowerMac G3 Towers more than 7 yearas ago. :)
Of course, Sony VAIOs had IEEE 1394 ports quite some time before the first Apple had them.

So Apple wasn't first with IEEE 1394 as standard.

But since you say "6 pin" - your claim that Apple was first is correct. Sony used the standard 4-pin connector.
 
Chris Bangle said:
Just had a brainwave. If NAB is a pro event and it seems that an Apple tablet would be a pro Product, whats stoppping one of them being launched on sunday. Tablets would be superb for pro people and it seems that NAB would be a great place to launch it/

OMG! :eek: Don't get my hopes up... :( An Apple Tablet would be...I have no words. Do it SJ!

...Just as long as its a traditional slate form factor and not one of those crappy hybrid/convertibles. :p [/perpetually dissatisfied fanboy]
 
KaiMac said:
Based on the heat problems with the 15" MBP, i would guess cooling the 12" MBP with a duo core chip might have something to do with it. After using the 15" MBP at the Apple store several times, I passed on buying one of these units because of how hot they run. Hopefully the 17" will perform better if it has more room to cool. This could be negated by putting a faster chip in the unit though. Gonna have to wait and see. I prefer the 17" MBP if the heat issue isn't there.

Well, I really wonder about this one. When I've gone to the Apple store, the laptops they have on display are always hot. My PB rarely gets as hot as some of the ones they run all day, regardless of PB or MBP. And you should keep in mind that if things feel hot, that means they are conducting heat to your hand, rather than insulating the heat to their insides. Sure, it's still hot, but considering how hot some plastic ones get, it makes me think twice about considering a heat issue. I would be more convinced about a heat issue if there were performance problems, though wasn't there an article about this recently?:confused:

Still, a Duo or Solo makes little difference, and a 12" MBP should be possible. I remember reading that Apple might be thinking people don't need it that small, but if they did decide that they are wrong.
 
I think this will be like it:

17" MBP:
2.16 GHz Core Duo (soon 2.33 GHz upgrade available)
1 GB RAM (Up to 2 GB, keep dreamin', no 4 gigs for you)
120 GB 5.400 rpm. / 100 GB 7.200 rpm.
Ati Radeon X1900 Crossfire 256 MB GDDR3 (512 MB upgrade available)
8x DVD+/-RW/DL SuperDrive (I would hate apple if they let a crappy superdrive in this maxed out machine:eek: )
17" (1680x1050). I don't think they will put a 1080p screen into it now. Perhpas Rev. B.
Otherwise same specs as 15" MBP.

Two 15" MBP lines. Expensive one will be $2299, while the other will be $1799.

A 13.3" widescreen MBP. Same specs as low end 15" MBP. Screen res. will be 1280x768. $1499.

I hope these predictions will hold. They have before had severeal 15" models.

Edit: 17" price will be $2599 (hopefully).
 
Josias said:
I think this will be like it:

17" MBP:
2.16 GHz Core Duo (soon 2.33 GHz upgrade available)
1 GB RAM (Up to 2 GB, keep dreamin', no 4 gigs for you)
120 GB 5.400 rpm. / 100 GB 7.200 rpm.
Ati Radeon X1900 Crossfire 256 MB GDDR3 (512 MB upgrade available)
8x DVD+/-RW/DL SuperDrive (I would hate apple if they let a crappy superdrive in this maxed out machine:eek: )
17" (1680x1050). I don't think they will put a 1080p screen into it now. Perhpas Rev. B.
Otherwise same specs as 15" MBP.

2GB modules are here...although not from apple (imagine THAT price) but 4GB is already possible.

While i understand that the icons would be tiny, i see no benefit to keeping the same resolution for the 17" 1920 x 1200 is what i want to see, at least as an option. this is a desktop replacement for many...especially because of the cost. buying a monitor is out of budget for most people (me ;) funny how hat works out in my rationale eh?) while expose is great it is not more convenient than side by side windows.

if they put expresscard/34 in the 17" i will seriously have to reconsider why i dig apple products so much. os, i am pretty sure they won't make that mistake. but other than that, those specs are tasty.
 
17" MBP Will Be $2999

Josias said:
Edit: 17" price will be $2599 (hopefully).
MovieCutter said:
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (sorry, I couldn't find a laughing smily)
You can hope all you like. In your dreams Josias. What MovieCutter and I are laughing so loud about is that there is no way the 17" MBP will sell for less than $2999. 24 hours and we'll know for sure. :D :)
 
I just specced out a m7700 at alienware. 2999 is a reasonable price. if apple upgrades the few things we want it will be a downright competitive price.
 
Multimedia said:
You can hope all you like. In your dreams Josias. What MovieCutter and I are laughing so loud about is that there is no way the 17" MBP will sell for less than $2999. 24 hours and we'll know for sure. :D :)

Agreed. $2999 for the 17'' and no change on the 15'' ($1999, $2499) Apple can easily justify $2999 for the larger screen and processor bump (2.16GHZ standard) - and maybe even a 7200rpm (100GB) or 120GB HDD. It will probably have an 8X (vs 4X) superdrive, too.

Of course, I only say easily justify because it's Apple ;)

My trigger finger is really starting to itch, I'm being forced to purchase a notebook by June 30... and I really want a Macbook Pro, so I suppose I wouldn't mind cheaper prices... certainly NOT holding my breath, though:)
 
The real question is will it come with 1GB RAM standard? No way would they stick just 512MB in there.
 
bodeh6 said:
The real question is will it come with 1GB RAM standard? No way would they stick just 512MB in there.

Definitely not. 1 GB of ram standard, and as someone above posted, I'd say they'll have a 256 MB Video Card standard as well (to power the larger screen and, of course, have power enough left for powering a 30" Cinema Display :) )
 
~Shard~ said:
Are you just waiting for a new 17" MBP, or are you specifically waiting for Merom? If it's the latter, why?

Merom will be a much better chip than the current Core Duos. Merom actually begins a new Intel architecture whereas the current Core Duos are the end of the old P-M line. Among other things, the new chips beginning with Merom will be 64 bit which in the Intel world opens up new registers for data processing (and thus is more than just the ability to use 4GiB RAM). Also, Merom will sport SSE3 instructions, and is reputed to perform 20% better at the same power consumption level.

I believe Merom will also coincide with the new Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) and I believe certain technologies will be revealed which will require the Lagrande technology built into the chips. Also, if you wait for the Rosetta chipset, the Robson cache technology will be included, as will 802.11n, and possibly UWB, and a faster 800 MHz FSB. The first release of Merom will be limited to 667MHz FSB by the chipset, but the chip will do 800MHz. A perusal through PC websites (e.g., anandtech.com, tomshardware.com, etc.) will reveal other advantages to Merom. If you can wait until the middle of 2007, Intel is planning on releasing a quad-core mobile processor.

For me, the sweet-spot will be a 2.0 GHz Merom chip with the Rosetta chipset and OS X 10.5--probably Q1, 2007. This should be available on the MacBook by then since Merom will be introduced at 1.86GHz followed by 2.0, 2.16, and 2.33GHz.
 
...suddenly wakes up...

Val-kyrie said:
For me, the sweet-spot will be a 2.0 GHz Merom chip with the Rosetta chipset
I thought that I've been paying attention - but WTF is the "Rosetta Chipset"? I haven't seen that on any NDA presentation from Intel.
 
AidenShaw said:
I thought that I've been paying attention - but WTF is the "Rosetta Chipset"? I haven't seen that on any NDA presentation from Intel.

"Crestline" maybe?

there are many words to keep track of...slight slip maybe.
 
I forgot. ExpressCard/54 'course. But I think it will come with 1 GB standard, and yes, perhaps you're right about 4 GB option. The screen res will still be 1.7 mpx, but they might make 2.3 mpx as an option. Okay, so 13" is $1499, 15" are $1999 and 2499 and 17" is $2999? Yeah, it will probably be, since many 15" buyers will feel cheated if they lower the price on 15"...:D
 
Josias said:
I think this will be like it:

17" MBP:
2.16 GHz Core Duo (soon 2.33 GHz upgrade available)
1 GB RAM (Up to 2 GB, keep dreamin', no 4 gigs for you)
120 GB 5.400 rpm. / 100 GB 7.200 rpm.
Ati Radeon X1900 Crossfire 256 MB GDDR3 (512 MB upgrade available)
8x DVD+/-RW/DL SuperDrive (I would hate apple if they let a crappy superdrive in this maxed out machine:eek: )
17" (1680x1050). I don't think they will put a 1080p screen into it now. Perhpas Rev. B.
Otherwise same specs as 15" MBP.

... Edit: 17" price will be $2599 (hopefully).

What drugs are you taking?!!! :eek:

And why aren't you sharing? :mad: j/k ;)

JUST SAY "NO" to drugs Josias, just say no.

"Bad" Josias, "very bad".

$2999 PERIOD. [at least].
 
Ok, I got it. I just though it might not be that much, since none of the other intel machines have risen so much in price.
 
Macbook pro 13"

Some of you have said that the 13" macbook pro if it even exsists will be $1500 but they raised the other two books up to a higher price so shouldn't this book be a higher price like $1700 or higher.:confused:
 
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