If Apple really thought differently, they would do a skinny and a heavy version of the 17" MBP and see which sells. They wouldn't be bankrupting the company in doing so.
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17" MacBook Pro Disassembly, RAM, HD and Battery Access
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If Apple really thought differently, they would do a skinny and a heavy version of the 17" MBP and see which sells. They wouldn't be bankrupting the company in doing so.
I think that it's more of a "you don't change battery on an airplane" or something like that.
Since when has Apple been about the majority? My opinion stands that there is a legitimate issue here and to say all people who swap batteries are silly is well.. silly. I admit the longer battery life of the new design reduces my concerns but does not eliminate.
wow, that was quick. they got that up in a hurry. glad they did though. i really like ifixit. i use their instructions quite often.
Apple rules, you followOffering a more diversified (does this word exist?
For Apple, diversified DOES NOT exist. You'd think they'd at least give us more options on the desktop front, and it wouldn't be hard to make a Mac Pro that uses average desktop quad core chips.
This would be my only wish. They could call the current 17" the 17" Macbook and make a real Pro 17" computer with quad core chips and some functions that you find in the competition that is currently blowing Apple away..... like removable batteries and such.
I'd like to have a notebook that isn't just touted for it's design and thinness.
Nice to know after 2-3 years of torture with poorly designed internal configurations, Apple is going back to simple, even user serviceable parts.
Let's hope the iMac follows suit and goes back to elegant designs like the original iMac G5s (after the iMac G5 with iSight and Intel machines they went awful).
Or could this be a 17 inch MBP one off?
Let's hope the iMac follows suit and goes back to elegant designs like the original iMac G5s (after the iMac G5 with iSight and Intel machines they went awful).
Or could this be a 17 inch MBP one off?
Well call me crazy, but I was flying back home from a conference and needed to work on a $10M grant proposal due two days later. Oh yeah, and I needed to prep lecture for the next day as well. Apologies if that does not pass your personal criteria for necessary laptop usage
Again, Apple isn't going to change it for 5% of the market, if you don't like it go to another hardware manufacture and you will be replaced by the next generation that wants the sleeker, lighter and longer lasting batteries. The new 17" is exactly what I want, it's 17" screen, it's light and small, has a long lasting battery and it's powerful enough for everything I need. If you guys want a changeable battery maybe you should get the 15"?
Amen.
Believe it or not there are people who actually do work
on the plane, not just watch old episodes of Dexter like the people across from me.
Right..... a 15" Macbook Pro with a 17" screen.
I won't move over to the PC or hackintoshes just yet, so in the meantime many will have to hear me b!t*h about Apple's poor technology decisions, and their user bases poor insight in how machines can be used.
Again, it's poor to you but not to me or anyone I know. So, was it a poor decision if it's going to make them more money? I think not.
The fact that you've got to try and complete a 10 million dollar proposal in 2 days doesn't sound like a reason for long life batteries on a plane, but for a more realistic assumption about your work schedules and capabilities. Either the proposal can be done properly in the time it needs to take, or you are cutting corners just to get the bloody thing finished on time, which surely is not very professional?
And no, the fact that a project costs 10 million does not pass my 'necessary' criteria - there are more important things than money (believe it or not).
Maybe they don't change a product for 5% of the market, BUT apple could have a godlike image upon the non-fanboys if they'd care more about the customer, give more options on hardware and so on.
I think "Digital Skunk" ist right.
The 17"MBP ist not a "pro" machine (hardware wise), it's just a bigger macbook with "new batterie technologie" (that will come to the other macs sooner or later) and better graphics. ah and a bigger screen...of course the screen/battery ist fine, but the power is not pro at all..
The image of a company really matters, and apple is negcleting the customer's opinion. Apple could end up like MS if their products weren't that shiny and "adoreable" because of looks and status-promising: hate their attitude and whatever you dislike, and in the end, all their products.
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Its not like apple is the only way to go. it will be a really tough decision for me wether i should stick with mac or switch back to MS. when i bought my macbook in 2007, it was based on the fact that i didn't want VISTA. i think in 1-2 years windows will be attractive again. i'll keep in touch...
More than once i got the feeling that apple laughs about their own customers. they drop little (but nice) features and they're getting praised as unbelieveable genius whereas MS made real progress and is considered to be crap all the way. (Im talking about OSX, not iphones or ipods)
I mean, they state:"WE do it better than MS in every aspect. You must be a fool to use an MS product"... and this is something i cannot accept. its so arrogant, and people still don't see it.
No discussion, i love OSX and the macbook as a whole (for example), but i got the feeling that apple doesn't need/want my opinion on their products. And as a free-thinker, that's no image i like to be connected with...
just my two cents..
(sry for the bad gramma)
Sadly this is true, and I can't argue with Apple's desire to make money.
Mmmm, I don't think so. Some times it's touch and go, even for well planned projects and proposals.
Not to mention last minute changes that could have you doing as the other poster did, or rendering footage on battery power as I do quite often.
Not sure why this is starting to take a nasty tone, but I'm happy to follow suit
working on a proposal due 2 days hence != doing the proposal in 2 days
I'm sorry if you do not respect people who try to do as good of a job as possible in their endeavors and therefore try to make the best use of the available time.
Uh, ok, there are more important things than money ... like maybe the biomedical research that could help us diagnose and cure disease that we are planning to use the money for?
But that might not pass muster on your stringent criteria either
Guys, lets stop arguing about the non removable battery pack, for the same price as a new battery you can get an external one, so i dont see the problem? its small, and convenient, just simply plugs in the normal magsafe, and it doesnt void the warranty using it So i guess its actually better than having a removable battery, plus it gives you a lot lot lot more life than the internal battery, so its better overall.
Edit: Plus it doesnt have to be inside the computer to charge. So its way better.
Oh dear, someone hasnt studied business models and economics 101
Apple is a shareholder owned company people on this forum seem to forget this and dream they own it.
Well news flash......we dont!! The SOLE and ONLY purpose of the company is to make money for the shareholders, not to care for the environment, not to service the buyers needs, not to offer two different versions of the 17" its to MAKE HARD CASH $$$$ + ££££££ FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS
Thats Apples Legal obligation
So i guess its actually better than having a removable battery, plus it gives you a lot lot lot more life than the internal battery, so its better overall. Edit: Plus it doesnt have to be inside the computer to charge. So its way better.
Oh dear, someone hasnt studied business models and economics 101
Apple is a shareholder owned company people on this forum seem to forget this and dream they own it.
Well news flash......we dont!! The SOLE and ONLY purpose of the company is to make money for the shareholders, not to care for the environment, not to service the buyers needs, not to offer two different versions of the 17" its to MAKE HARD CASH $$$$ + ££££££ FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS
Thats Apples Legal obligation
Because Apple patented the connector and does not license it to anyone. Also reports are that the interaction between the adapter and the computer is not just constant power, but there are some smarts to the power supply.
Yes, it's very common for the power brick to communicate with the laptop. Dells all do it - if you use an adapter that's too small it may run (but not charge), or even report that "the 45watt adapter is not compatible" and ignore it.
Even with just two wires ("+" and "-") a data channel can be superimposed on the DC.
I think since we are at the point of not getting our PowerBook G5, how about a 17" MacBook Air???
I think since we are at the point of not getting our PowerBook G5, how about a 17" MacBook Air???
Ha!
A 17" Macbook Air is what that 95% of Apple users want to do their web surfing and p0rn watching with.
Who watches porn on a 17" monitor, that's what the 52" HDTV is for. Duh.
Size matters...
sounds like smoke and mirrors to me designed to discourage 2nd party adapter makers. it still won't stop the asian makers from making them and selling them for $10 on ebay like they do with the PowerBook/iBook ones.
...you know the sad answer to that question....
Maybe in the post-Jobs era, now that the CEO isn't thin as a rail, balance will arrivel.