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ok "genius" so taking the bottom case off a White Macbook would void the warranty? NO! So at this point there's no way for you to know whether this will change with the 17" MBP or not.. For the time being, the logical answer would be NO.

And you need to READ previous posts before getting al excited... I was referring to the current unibody MB/MBPs...

wha-rong!

The 13 inch white macbook has a door right behind the battery for easy access to the RAM and hard disk.

Just stop talking, you're failing left and anti-left.
 

It all depends on how the wording of Apple's Warranty is taken. In it's exact words:

Apple One Year Limited Warranty said:
This warranty does not apply: [snip] (d) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider ("AASP")

From that it says that you are allowed to upgrade the machine yourself but Apple is not responsible if you cause any damage while upgrading or the new upgrade causes any damage to the machine.
 
You still have no idea what you're talking about. The 15 inch MBP has a panel that's easily removable and well documented by Apple that contains the RAM and hard disk drive. The 17 incher does not! The entire bottom is one piece á la Macbook Air, and NOT user replaceable, like the old Macbook Pros (but they may have changed the terms of the warranty)

My reply was to the post above, concerning the 15". I wasn't talking about the new 17"...
 
OK genius, wheres the 'seperate cover' on that:

17" Unibody Base

He clearly was responding to a comment about the 15" MBP. Everyone else, including you, is wrong about that. There are 2 separate covers on the 15" MBP. On that, you need to remove the "large" (major) section of the bottom case to replace the RAM, which does NOT void the warranty. That's his point....that removing the large section to replace things like RAM is OK, and will not void the warranty. On the 17" MBP, it's very very likely to be the same, as they pretty much always let you upgrade RAM and harddisks by yourself. You can't upgrade the LCD on a whim, and doing so would void the warranty. Replacing things like RAM and the harddisk usually aren't in the Apple universe.
 
That's what I thought!

@VSMacOne shuddddup!

It's the 15" MBP has a separate cover for the battery and the hard drive. He never said the 17" one did.

The point is that in order to upgrade the ram on the 15" mbp you have to take off the entire bottom of the case, a procedure which apple provides instructions for, and therefore doesn't void the warrenty. Why would the 17" be any different?

EDIT: should have refreshed before I posted... sorry for the repetition.
 
OMG!! Are you kidding me?!?!?

well since people are talking about the 15" model when the thread is about the 17" model...

It's the 15" MBP has a separate cover for the battery and the hard drive. He never said the 17" one did.

The point is that in order to upgrade the ram on the 15" mbp you have to take off the entire bottom of the case, a procedure which apple provides instructions for, and therefore doesn't void the warrenty. Why would the 17" be any different?

EDIT: should have refreshed before I posted... sorry for the repetition.
well the 17" is already different in that the batt is non replaceable so to think that nothing else has changed might be invalid as well
 
None of these geniuses are reading. MWSF is a wonderful time of the year, isn't it?

.... proof....

well since people are talking about the 15" model when the thread is about the 17" model...

LOL!!!

The bottom line is that the bottom case has to be removed for ALL OF THE CURRENT MACBOOK/MACBOOK PRO LINEUP in order to change the RAM or HDD (in some cases), and currently that does NOT VOID THE WARRANTY.
 
Ok so then everyone who upgraded the RAM on the unibody MB/MBP have voided their warranty... righttt :rolleyes:

I'm quoting myself because my comment was completely disregarded. Read it again, and then tell me how it makes sense that your warranty is voided to upgrade the 17" notebooks.
 
Just to make things clear in the future:

15' MBP has a tool-less removable panel on the bottom that can be opened with a latch.

17" MBP has a bare non tool-less removable panel on the bottom, similar to that of the MBA.

13" MB has the same mechanism as the 15" MBP. In both of these cases, neither removing the panel on the 15" and 13" MBP and MB respectively will void the warranty, but if you damage something in the process, it will void the warranty. If an Apple certified technician damages something while doing the upgrade, it still falls within warranty. So the 17" is unknown as of this post.
 
Just to make things clear in the future:

15' MBP has a tool-less removable panel on the bottom that can be opened with a latch.

17" MBP has a bare non tool-less removable panel on the bottom, similar to that of the MBA.

13" MB has the same mechanism as the 15" MBP. In both of these cases, neither removing the panel on the 15" and 13" MBP and MB respectively will void the warranty, but if you damage something in the process, it will void the warranty. If an Apple certified technician damages something while doing the upgrade, it still falls within warranty. So the 17" is unknown as of this post.

Ok do you guys not get it. There are about 6 screws underneath my MacBook that have to be taken out in order to upgrade the ram. That's the same as unscrewing the 10 screws underneath the new 17" and doing a hardware upgrade!
 
Ok do you guys not get it. There are about 6 screws underneath my MacBook that have to be taken out in order to upgrade the ram. That's the same as unscrewing the 10 screws underneath the new 17" and doing a hardware upgrade!

No one here is saying that it will void your warranty. We're just saying no one knows for sure!

Sure it's highly likely that it won't, but I'm not going to state that as fact until it is.

PS: 6 =/= 10
 
Just to make things clear in the future:

15' MBP has a tool-less removable panel on the bottom that can be opened with a latch.

17" MBP has a bare non tool-less removable panel on the bottom, similar to that of the MBA.

13" MB has the same mechanism as the 15" MBP. In both of these cases, neither removing the panel on the 15" and 13" MBP and MB respectively will void the warranty, but if you damage something in the process, it will void the warranty. If an Apple certified technician damages something while doing the upgrade, it still falls within warranty. So the 17" is unknown as of this post.

Exactly!

The only thing to add is that the panel on the 13"MB/15"MBP only gives access to the HDD and the battery. In order to change the RAM, one has to remove the rest of the case, which DOES require a tool.

The reason I don't think Apple will make this a warranty issue for the 17" is that SO MANY users change their HDD or RAM, that it would make no sense for Apple let that be a void of warranty.

Just out of curiousity, has this EVER been an issue with past Apple laptops? I really don't know the answer, because the Alu is my first Mac.
 
exactly. doesnt sound user replaceable to me and thus if a user replaces it, they void warranty

Only if you make Tim The Toolman Taylor look like a genius with a phillips screwdriver and close proximity to an unprotected Li-Ion battery when you take the cover off.

Makes me wonder if these will burn if you stab a fully charged battery.
 
OK to be honest i dont even know what this treads on anymore, but my main point is :

With the new unibody Macbook Pro 17" (2009 Model), if you unscrew the bottom, to do anything, you void the warranty, end of story.

I actually phoned Apple Care to ask them, you can do it too.
AppleCare: 1-800-275-2273
I'll find a copy of its warranty to show you as well, as soon as its published.
 
No one here is saying that it will void your warranty. We're just saying no one knows for sure!

Sure it's highly likely that it won't, but I'm not going to state that as fact until it is.

PS: 6 =/= 10

There are a few people in the thread that are so sure that it does void your warranty, when it makes absolutely no sense. I know your not one of them, but I'm just trying to get my point across.

How can Apple void your warranty on a 17" ram upgrade and not a 13"/15" ram upgrade when your doing the exact same carbon copy procedure!


OK to be honest i dont even know what this treads on anymore, but my main point is :

With the new unibody Macbook Pro 17" (2009 Model), if you unscrew the bottom, to do anything, you void the warranty, end of story.

I actually phoned Apple Care to ask them, you can do it too.
AppleCare: 1-800-275-2273
I'll find a copy of its warranty to show you as well, as soon as its published.

How can Apple void your warranty on a 17" ram upgrade and not a 13"/15" ram upgrade when your doing the exact same carbon copy procedure!

How can Apple void your warranty on a 17" ram upgrade and not a 13"/15" ram upgrade when your doing the exact same carbon copy procedure!

How can Apple void your warranty on a 17" ram upgrade and not a 13"/15" ram upgrade when your doing the exact same carbon copy procedure!

How can Apple void your warranty on a 17" ram upgrade and not a 13"/15" ram upgrade when your doing the exact same carbon copy procedure!
 
OK to be honest i dont even know what this treads on anymore, but my main point is :

With the new unibody Macbook Pro 17" (2009 Model), if you unscrew the bottom, to do anything, you void the warranty, end of story.

I actually phoned Apple Care to ask them, you can do it too.
AppleCare: 1-800-275-2273
I'll find a copy of its warranty to show you as well, as soon as its published.

This doesn't make any sense to me... :confused:
But oh well, I guess we'll see once they actually come out.
 

How can Apple void your warranty on a 17" ram upgrade and not a 13"/15" ram upgrade when your doing the exact same carbon copy procedure!

Because your NOT! look at its dissasembly abstract diagram on the apple site, You have to remove the whole bottom plate, remove the battery, and then reverse the logic board (flip it round). This isnt considered by Apple to be safe for a home user to do, dont ask me why, i dont make the rules, steve does.
 
Because your NOT! look at its dissasembly abstract diagram on the apple site, You have to remove the whole bottom plate, remove the battery, and then reverse the logic board (flip it round). This isnt considered by Apple to be safe for a home user to do, dont ask me why, i dont make the rules, steve does.

Wow you don't have to reverse nothing. What are you talking about.

Here are pics right from Apple, in the keynote/video!!

You take off one damn cover with 10 screws and you have access to RAM and HDD.
 

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Wow you don't have to reverse nothing. What are you talking about.

Here are pics right from Apple, in the keynote/video!!

You take off one damn cover with 10 screws and you have access to RAM and HDD.

Yeah you also have access to the battery and logic board which basically apple dont want.
 
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