17", no way to replace hard drive?

[VSMacOne]

No it doesn't. They're completely different procedures...

YES IT DOES! Let me try to spell this out for you...
On the Unibody MB/MBP the HDD/Battery can be accessed easily under the latch operated cover.

BUT In order to change the RAM you have to remove the bottom case that is screwed in, thus revealing the logic board. What about this is not clear to you?

If this is not good enough, look at the MBA. EXACTLY the same principle as the new 17" MBP. In order to change the RAM/HDD the bottom case must be removed. Does it void the warranty? No!

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

If this is not good enough, look at the MBA. EXACTLY the same principle as the new 17" MBP. In order to change the RAM/HDD the bottom case must be removed. Does it void the warranty? No!

You wanna bet that changing the RAM in the Macbook Air doesn't void the warranty?

 

[kastenbrust]

Please lets stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Were here to help people, and if you really want to know about the warranty being voided, just phone Applecare like i did when i first found out (i was scared because id just ordered one! ) and find out. Im not going to tell you what to think, but thats what they told me, unscrewing the base plate voids the one year warranty.

and also

You wanna bet that changing the RAM in the Macbook Air doesn't void the warranty?

He's right, it does void the warranty

 

[acfusion29]

No it doesn't. They're completely different procedures...

No... it's not. Look, here is a picture I JUST took.

I TOOK OFF MY BATTERY COVER.

Please tell me where you see ram. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee because I didn't see it until I actually took off the entire thing.

 

[kastenbrust]

No... it's not. Look, here is a picture I JUST took.

I TOOK OFF MY BATTERY COVER.

Please tell me where you see ram. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee because I didn't see it until I actually took off the entire thing.

yeah we didnt say anything about battery cover, stop being such a troll and ask apple yourself

 

[acfusion29]

Please lets stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Were here to help people, and if you really want to know about the warranty being voided, just phone Applecare like i did when i first found out (i was scared because id just ordered one! ) and find out. Im not going to tell you what to think, but thats what they told me, unscrewing the base plate voids the one year warranty.

and also



He's right, it does void the warranty

Look, your ignorance here is making you look extremely stupid right now. There is a plate covering the RAM in the NEW 13" MacBook's and the NEW 15" MacBook Pro's.

In the 17" MacBook Pro, the plate is larger because there is no latch+cover that covers the battery and harddrive. The battery and harddrive are accessible easily on the 13" and 15", but the ram is NOT. You have to unscrew a couple of screws in order to get to the RAM and this does NOT void your warranty. It's the exact same procedure on all the MacBook's in the new Apple line to access the RAM.

 

[Darth.Titan]

On the current 17", a HD replacement is fairly major surgery. More so than the new one as far as I can tell. The hard drive is not listed as a "user serviceable" part either.

HOWEVER I have upgraded the hard drive on mine twice and still gotten warranty service with no questions asked. The service was for a faulty latch so they did remove the case and they did have the opportunity to notice I'd upgraded the hard drive. In point of fact, they spotted my upgraded wireless card last time I sent it in. (I added a N-capable card to my Core Duo 17") Not only did they complete my (unrelated) repair and not void my warranty, but they also replaced the wireless card with an Apple OEM wireless card and returned to me the one I'd installed. (Hence leaving me with a free extra )

I'm rambling, but the moral of the story is, if you can upgrade any part yourself and do it correctly without doing damage in the process Apple will not void your warranty. That's the way it's always been and I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the new 17" will be no exception.

 

[VSMacOne]

You wanna bet that changing the RAM in the Macbook Air doesn't void the warranty?

"What kind of activities are excluded from my warranty coverage?

Apple’s One-Year Limited Warranty excludes coverage for damage resulting from a number of events, including accident, unauthorized service, and unauthorized modifications."

Source: http://www.apple.com/support/macbookair/service/#warranty4

Unless you DAMAGE the MBA in the process, your warranty will not be voided for simply taking the cover off.

Satisfied?

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

"What kind of activities are excluded from my warranty coverage?

Apple’s One-Year Limited Warranty excludes coverage for damage resulting from a number of events, including accident, unauthorized service, and unauthorized modifications."

Source: http://www.apple.com/support/macbookair/service/#warranty4

Unless you DAMAGE the MBA in the process, your warranty will not be voided for simply taking the cover off.

Satisfied?

Nope. because changing the RAM on the Macbook Air does void your warranty. You do realize that it's soldered on, right?

 

[acfusion29]

"What kind of activities are excluded from my warranty coverage?

Apple’s One-Year Limited Warranty excludes coverage for damage resulting from a number of events, including accident, unauthorized service, and unauthorized modifications."

Source: http://www.apple.com/support/macbookair/service/#warranty4

Unless you DAMAGE the MBA in the process, your warranty will not be voided for simply taking the cover off.

Satisfied?

Screw the MacBook Air, it shouldn't even be in this discussion, it doesn't have a unibody frame.

What I'm still trying to get others to understand here is that in order to access the ram, on the 13, 15 and 17" MacBook's and MacBook Pro's respectively, you are doing the same thing... as in taking your damn #0 screwdriver and unscrewiing 6-10 screws depending on your computer in order to access the RAM.

Edit: The same procedure that you are doing to the 13 and 15" models, you are doing to the 17". So how can you possibly void warranty on the 17" when changing the RAM when you do the same thing on the 13" and 15"? Answer this damn question!!

VSMacOne, I think you and I really need to go on a vacation and get away from these people. What do you say?

 

[kastenbrust]

"What kind of activities are excluded from my warranty coverage?

Apple’s One-Year Limited Warranty excludes coverage for damage resulting from a number of events, including accident, unauthorized service, and unauthorized modifications."

Source: http://www.apple.com/support/macbookair/service/#warranty4

Unless you DAMAGE the MBA in the process, your warranty will not be voided for simply taking the cover off.

Satisfied?

believe me, if you take the cover off the MBA, then break a key on your keyboard and send it in for service they wont fix it. theyre really tight now because people try to scam them and the apple care all the time.

 

[kastenbrust]

Screw the MacBook Air, it shouldn't even be in this discussion, it doesn't have a unibody frame.

What I'm still trying to get others to understand here is that in order to access the ram, on the 13, 15 and 17" MacBook's and MacBook Pro's respectively, you are doing the same thing... as in taking your damn #0 screwdriver and unscrewiing 6-10 screws depending on your computer in order to access the RAM.

VSMacOne, I think you and I really need to go on a vacation and get away from these people. What do you say?

it may be the same thing, but when i checked with Apple it voids your warranty on the new unibody 17" macbook pro. just check yourself, dont get all flustered up about it.

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

believe me, if you take the cover off the MBA, then break a key on your keyboard and send it in for service they wont fix it. theyre really tight now because people try to scam them and the apple care all the time.

That has nothing, NOTHING, to do with what we're discussing.
Everyone knows that damaging your machine when taking it apart voids the warranty.

 

[NT1440]

believe me, if you take the cover off the MBA, then break a key on your keyboard and send it in for service they wont fix it. theyre really tight now because people try to scam them and the apple care all the time.

how would they even know you took the case off?

 

[kastenbrust]

That has nothing, NOTHING, to do with what we're discussing.
Everyone knows that damaging your machine when taking it apart voids the warranty.

no i meant that if you break it doing something else completely random, and they find you opened it then they will automatically void your warranty, only on the air though. and your right its off topic. (they know you opened it by special paint on the screws that turns blue when you remove them)

These people should just buy the 17" unibody versions then open them so we can all have a good laugh when they wonder why their warranty's been voided.

 

[VSMacOne]

it may be the same thing, but when i checked with Apple it voids your warranty on the new unibody 17" macbook pro. just check yourself, dont get all flustered up about it.

Apple Care operators are not always 100% accurate. Let me give you an example: Last week I called in to order a replacement battery cover for my Alu MB, and I had to go through 3 operators, because the first 2 kept telling me that their policy is to NOT ship out that part as a replacement. The third actually LOOKED and low-and-behold they had changed the policy for the Unibodies, and he sent me the replacement cover no problem. What does that prove? Nothing. It simply shows that they are sometimes mistaken... I guess we'll have to wait until they actually release the darn 17" MBP.

VSMacOne, I think you and I really need to go on a vacation and get away from these people. What do you say?

I'm done. This thread is getting ridiculous...

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

These people should just buy the 17" unibody versions then open them so we can all have a good laugh when they wonder why their warranty's been voided.

And you know this to be true.... how?

<snip>

you were still wrong about the Macbook Air RAM warranty

 

[kastenbrust]

And you know this to be true.... how?

as i wrote earlier, after the keynote and making my purchase of a new Macbook Pro Unibody 17" i saw a tread here where someone had posted a video of them asking an apple rep if opening up the unibody 17" to add RAM since it was such a rip off would void the warranty, and the rep said yes, so being worried i phoned applecare because i had planned to upgrade the RAM myself, and asked them if its true, and they told me it was.

 

[acfusion29]

Apple Care operators are not always 100% accurate. Let me give you an example: Last week I called in to order a replacement battery cover for my Alu MB, and I had to go through 3 operators, because the first 2 kept telling me that their policy is to NOT ship out that part as a replacement. The third actually LOOKED and low-and-behold they had changed the policy for the Unibodies, and he sent me the replacement cover no problem. What does that prove? Nothing. It simply shows that they are sometimes mistaken... I guess we'll have to wait until they actually release the darn 17" MBP.

None of them are really accurate. Remember the entire fiasco if the 2.0 Alu. came with a backlit keyboard? Some reps said yes, some said no.

no i meant that if you break it doing something else completely random, and they find you opened it then they will automatically void your warranty, only on the air though. and your right its off topic. (they know you opened it by special paint on the screws that turns blue when you remove them)

These people should just buy the 17" unibody versions then open them so we can all have a good laugh when they wonder why their warranty's been voided.

ALRIGHT MACRUMORS MEMBERS, I GUESS IF YOU HAVE A UNIBODY AND YOU UPGRADED YOUR RAM YOURSELF YOUR SCREWED!

 

[acfusion29]

as i wrote earlier, after the keynote and making my purchase of a new Macbook Pro Unibody 17" i saw a tread here where someone had posted a video of them asking an apple rep if opening up the unibody 17" to add RAM since it was such a rip off would void the warranty, and the rep said yes, so being worried i phoned applecare because i had planned to upgrade the RAM myself, and asked them if its true, and they told me it was.

How bout this.

Go look at a tutorial on how to replace ram in a 13/15" MacBook/Pro.

Then go look at a tutorial on how to replace ram in a 17" MacBook Pro.

Observe carefully and come back with your results.

 

[hayduke]

This thread just gets awesomer and awesomer. Pretty soon we're all going to supernova!

 

[kastenbrust]

How bout this.

Go look at a tutorial on how to replace ram in a 13/15" MacBook/Pro.

Then go look at a tutorial on how to replace ram in a 17" MacBook Pro.

Observe carefully and come back with your results.

oh so theyve made a tutorial to replace the DDR3 RAM in the brand new 1 day old not going to be sold for a month or even in the shops for 3 weeks unibody 17" macbook pro have they?

bull
go look yourself and come back with a grey cell.

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE 15" VERSIONS JUST THE NEW 17"

understand now?

 

[apolloa]

You don't know if you're right. True that in the past it has been the case that it will not void your warranty, but it is very possible that the terms of warranty have changed. No one will know until Apple says so.

So your having a go at someone saying that removing the bottom cover does NOT void the warnanty and yet you tell me:

You still have no idea what you're talking about. The 15 inch MBP has a panel that's easily removable and well documented by Apple that contains the RAM and hard disk drive. The 17 incher does not! The entire bottom is one piece á la Macbook Air, and NOT user replaceable, like the old Macbook Pros (but they may have changed the terms of the warranty)

Make your mind up? How can you join the discussion with both points of view?
In fact your Mr contradictory, your saying you can happily remove the ENTIRE bottom panel on the 15" the ram fine and not void the warranty, yet your also saying that removing the ENTIRE bottom panel of the 17" to do EXACTLY the same thing WILL void the warranty?

 

[Crash1234]

Screw the MacBook Air, it shouldn't even be in this discussion, it doesn't have a unibody frame.

Um.. actually the mba was the first macbook made with the unibody frame and it has been stated numerous times that the unibody design for the new mbp and mb came from the mba, the first unibody macbook.

Just wanted to say that.. I don't know about the warranty voiding issue being discussed although I'd assume that if the same procedure on an mba would void ones warranty it would be voided on the 17inch mbp as these two notebooks have the same single piece/no removable door thing going on.

 

[peskaa]

The 13" MacBook, 15" MacBook Pro and the new 17" MacBook Pro are all members of the unibody family, right? This means they share the same design heritage and details.

Now, on the 13" and 15" models, to change the RAM you have to take the large bottom plate off the machine, exposing the RAM, logic board, SuperDrive and all the other internal gubbins. This does not invalidate your warranty, as long as you don't damage any parts whilst changing the RAM.

So, the new 17", part of the exact same family of laptops has the same big panel which you have to remove to access the RAM (and also, in this case, the HDD). This means that removing the panel will be covered under warranty as long as you don't damage any parts when you do so.

Apple are not going to change the warranty on the 17"er to make it different to the 15", as it is exactly the same process. Sure, 4 more screws, but that's because the laptop is, y'know, bigger.

The MBA has nothing to do with this, as it is not user-servicable (RAM is soldered on, HDD is not a "standard" drive). It may be unibody, but it doesn't have the same components.