17years old and all the hot girls fancy me. So why am I mad?

[Mechcozmo]

"picking up" someone is all about the mating dance.
<snip>
BUT we are not the same, the reason we need to respect each other is because we are different, and we need to feed off of each other, we need each other to compliment the strengths and weaknesses.

On the first thing-- that depends. From different psychologist perspectives, it is true, and from others, blatantly false. From an evolutionary perspective (we are the way we are because of our evolution), you are 100% correct. From a pure biology view, less correct. From a Gestalt-style perspective (we need to feel complete/whole), false because it isn't about the mating or the sex, it is about the person's personality traits that appeal most to you rather than their physical ones.

Psychology, you'd think, might make it easier to understand people. Nuts to that!

You last bit is very true: "We need to respect each other... because we are different." That is true; if we choose to accept that we are 'different'. Of course, to be different, you have to have a state of normal to compare it to.
What is normal, then, if we are so different?

 

[mpw]

...Of course, to be different, you have to have a state of normal to compare it to...

Not really if you had a blue orange and a purple orange they'd both obviously different from each other of course both the blue orange and the purple orange would also be different to an orange orange which most people would consider normal. But then if you came from a place that predomintantly had blue oranges occasionally purple oranges but never, or rarely, orange oranges you'd think that blue oranges were normal and orange oranges were not normal, you would still of course accept that orange oranges and blue oranges and purple oranges were different regardless of your point of view of normal. Normal is just a point of view.

 

[aloofman]

there are lots of datable women around ... you just have to open your eyes ... or start going out to places were they are ... UNLESS you live in the middle of no where ... i meet women everywhere ... class, bus, parking lots, grocery stores, banks, on the street ... whatever

It isn't a matter of opening my eyes. I'm just picky.

 

[revenuee]

On the first thing-- that depends. From different psychologist perspectives, it is true, and from others, blatantly false. From an evolutionary perspective (we are the way we are because of our evolution), you are 100% correct. From a pure biology view, less correct. From a Gestalt-style perspective (we need to feel complete/whole), false because it isn't about the mating or the sex, it is about the person's personality traits that appeal most to you rather than their physical ones.

Psychology, you'd think, might make it easier to understand people. Nuts to that!

You last bit is very true: "We need to respect each other... because we are different." That is true; if we choose to accept that we are 'different'. Of course, to be different, you have to have a state of normal to compare it to.
What is normal, then, if we are so different?

i in fact know exactly what you are talking about ... i chose the evolutionary perspective ... that is my reality and those that don't agree with it are not wrong, just think differently then i do ... that's cool

i don't think we need a definition of normal ... we just need to find people that balance. The Ying and Yang, masculine and feminine --- my friends, and co-workers always tell me that there is never any question over my masculinty --- i often am attracted and look for those traits in dates that are very feminine <-- the friction that arises between myself and my partners creates a passion that few people every experience ... that is why i love women so much ... that passion.


Aloofman --- in regards to being picky .... what are you looking for in someone?

 

[cr2sh]

--- my friends, and co-workers always tell me that there is never any question over my masculinty ---

the friction that arises between myself and my partners creates a passion that few people every experience ... that is why i love women so much ... that passion.

I was just wondering... why is exactly that you and your friends/coworkers are always questioning your masculinity?

And this passion that you experience that few ever experience... do your lovers experience it too? If so... why don't they stick around?

 

[Ricky Smith]

Hmm well I'm not going to read all three pages right now... However in response to the origional post. I'm in high school right now and my girlfriend seems to insist that EVERY girl likes me.... Just because when I came to the school for the first time in two years. "I went to a voke tech for 2 years and shadowed my current girlfriend at the end of last year to see what it was like" So when I went to shadow pretty much every girl I knew and even ones I didn't know were screaming my name and were amazed to see me and a group of them came and pulled me out of the gym cause I had to see everyone else "this was a all girls gym class" and I had to meet there teacher. Since then when I've transfered over to the school people still continued to always say hi to me and were happy to see me and everything and then I just subcriped to myspace a few weeks ago just to see what it was like and the friends requests from girls started to come in ,,, How ever I wont say anything to any of the girls because I'm set on beliving no girls will want to date me "asside from the one I'm currently dating" Just because every damn girl in the school pretty much talks to me and is amazed to see me doesn't mean they like me!!

 

[freeny]

WOW!

Is this thread still going on?

 

[MarkCollette]

Now she says she spurned my romantic advances that night because she knew I was sober and didn’t want to appear a slut to a sober guy. I kind of get what she means when she says that.

But because she was drunk she didn’t have a problem with then going off with three of my drunk friends and [edited out of family forum]. Needless to say she had a hard time combing her hair the next morning.

I know it's exciting to do porno style escapades, but I'd prefer a girl who made me feel special. And running off with three of my friends wouldn't exactly accomplish that.

So, I concur with some other people in saying, that you probably didn't miss much from that specific event.

 

[Mechcozmo]

Not really if you had a blue orange and a purple orange...<snip>... Normal is just a point of view.

They are both oranges. Normal is just a point of view, but one we tend to cling to far too often for our own good.
We all could just be the hallucinations of a psychologically deranged person. They are cured, they die, our world ends, and we wouldn't ever know it because we never existed anyway. That is not a normal view of our world. But it might as well be, because it is as valid as anything.

 

[revenuee]

I was just wondering... why is exactly that you and your friends/coworkers are always questioning your masculinity?

And this passion that you experience that few ever experience... do your lovers experience it too? If so... why don't they stick around?

my actions are always met with "you're such a guy, no question about that" ... LOL

that has to do with my inability to commit --- they tend to want more attention then i can give and they get frustrated.