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I understand how you feel. I feel the same way but in a completely different issue. I'm 19, and I feel that I could have done a lot in high school that would have made me feel a lot happier back then, but it wouldn't make a difference for my present state.

As for your advice, I have absolutely no past experience, neither do I expect any future experience in this issue (In other words, I've never had a girlfriend, and I really don't care.. and no, I'm not gay)
 
mpw, Well I just noticed that you are from "Jersey" in the UK :cool: I thought it was New Jersey in the US so the whole FANCY word was confusing me for most of this thread and it just didn't make any sense.:confused: I am assuming that term is used quite often to describe the word for had a "crush" on you!! :)
 
Josh said:
Haha...exactly.

Sorry, no girl in Jersey is going to say that she "fancied" you.

<snobbish English accent>
Perhaps, my dear mpw, if one could be bothered such to put down his most delectable tea, one my benefit of getting down from such a high horse. Indeed, the ground, as you will find, is much the merrier! Oh how agreeable it is! It will tickle your fancy most asuredly!
</snobbish English accent>
Then you don't know Jersey.
I'm not English, I don't drink tea and I wasn't trying to be on any high horse.
 
mpw said:
Why didn’t they tell me/ask me out then? And even more annoying why did some of the ones I asked out then turn me down?

The point of this thread is to advise our younger members who are desperately trying to start relationships that, if you like someone TELL THEM. What’s the worst that could happen?

I never understood why it was the guy's responsibility to ask the girls out.
If we're such an equal society, why do we still cling to these ideals? If a girl likes a guy enough to date him, she should ask him out. Replace girl with guy and guy with girl if you feel like it. We're all people.

The worst that could happen is that they don't feel the same towards you, and leave you with your bleeding heart. Or the word could end. Take your pick; there's plenty worst-case scenarios for everyone.
 
macartistkel said:
mpw, Well I just noticed that you are from "Jersey" in the UK :cool: I thought it was New Jersey in the US so the whole FANCY word was confusing me for most of this thread and it just didn't make any sense.:confused: I am assuming that term is used quite often to describe the word for had a "crush" on you!! :)
Why does the US always think of places without the "New"?

You're talking about completely different places, ergh.

Zeeland and New Zealand are very close together…
 
link92 said:
Why does the US always think of places without the "New"?
It's not just places. A decade ago I was irked by all the jokes about the Apple Ton. ;) Now, people here bash the bees that pop up after each Stevenote. And, of course, 'W' is always ranting about "clear" weapons.
 
jsw said:
I think that's good advice. Regrets suck, and the "never tried" regrets are enormously worse than the "it didn't work out" regrets. Except when it comes to parachuting, but that's a different story.

jsw's post in this thread are (as usually) cracking me up. :D :D


No advice/comment to mpw, but I can relate to what you're saying.
 
Mechcozmo said:
I never understood why it was the guy's responsibility to ask the girls out.
If we're such an equal society, why do we still cling to these ideals? If a girl likes a guy enough to date him, she should ask him out. Replace girl with guy and guy with girl if you feel like it. We're all people.

The worst that could happen is that they don't feel the same towards you, and leave you with your bleeding heart. Or the word could end. Take your pick; there's plenty worst-case scenarios for everyone.

I agree. If your a girl and you like someone are you just going to waist your time waiting for him to ask you out? Or trying to make him like you? (That usually doesn't turn out well)
 
w_parietti22 said:
I agree. If your a girl and you like someone are you just going to waist your time waiting for him to ask you out? Or trying to make him like you? (That usually doesn't turn out well)

I normally try to ignore spelling/grammar issues... but I just couldn't let your post go. Sorry-- no offense to you or anything, but just had to bring it up.

your should be you're
waist should be waste
needs 'too' in between "out" and "well"

Thanks for agreeing with me, though. Too many people just give me this look when I tell them that: :confused:
People are people, and then you have men/women sub-sets of people. How's that for making it simpler, instead of "girl must wait for guy to ask her out". Take the damned initiative already! ;)
 
Just to touch back to the original post for a minute...

As I'm turning 18 in a month, I figured I'd give my two cents. I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment that people should tell whomever they like about their feelings, (I might do just that with a girl I like in the next week or two...but that's another thread) especially since girls probably want guys to make the first move, if it's a move at all. Sometimes, just knowing that somebody thinks you're the best person in the world is enough to help you see the great side of them that you might not have seen before.

With regards to the drinking, I think that it's a bit of a bad idea to advise under-age people to drink, especially to start drinking, even a bit. MPW, if you had been drunk that night, your friend might've gotten a concussion or whatnot, then possibly slipped into a coma. You did the right thing, in my opinion, and maybe even saved her life. Some friends of mine who used to drink have had really, really bad experiences (as in commiting felonies and being arrested for them) and don't drink anymore. Obviously, that doesn't happen very often, but I still think that it's not ok to encourage under-age people to drink.
 
asherman13 said:
...especially since girls probably want guys to make the first move, if it's a move at all.
Why do the girls want the guys to make the first move? First move in what? What is defined as a 'move'?
I'm trying to figure out what you are saying in your post, as words are seen differently by different people.


asherman13 said:
With regards to the drinking, I think that it's a bit of a bad idea to advise under-age people to drink, especially to start drinking, even a bit. MPW, if you had been drunk that night, your friend might've gotten a concussion or whatnot, then possibly slipped into a coma. You did the right thing, in my opinion, and maybe even saved her life. Some friends of mine who used to drink have had really, really bad experiences (as in commiting felonies and being arrested for them) and don't drink anymore. Obviously, that doesn't happen very often, but I still think that it's not ok to encourage under-age people to drink.

I agree completely. You can throw your life away by doing something stupid. Drinking underage may have different ramifications in the U.K. vs. the U.S., but in the U.S. there can be pretty bad things happening to you if you drink underage.
 
Mechcozmo said:
I never understood why it was the guy's responsibility to ask the girls out.
If we're such an equal society, why do we still cling to these ideals? If a girl likes a guy enough to date him, she should ask him out. Replace girl with guy and guy with girl if you feel like it. We're all people.

The worst that could happen is that they don't feel the same towards you, and leave you with your bleeding heart. Or the word could end. Take your pick; there's plenty worst-case scenarios for everyone.

Based on my observations (me and the guys I've dicussed it with; admittedly a small sample) I'd say at least 9 out of 10 dates occur because he asked her out. Granted, three or four of those were probably because she dropped hints on him that weighed slightly less than one of Bugs Bunny's anvils. But if a woman is depending on guys to understand subtleties, then she's really rolling dice.
 
aloofman said:
But if a woman is depending on guys to understand subtleties, then she's really rolling dice.

NO ... they are picking guys that are the cream of the crop ... guys who can pick up on it are usually the strongest ...

if you are relying on a girl to flat out tell you that she's interested, then you are the one that's rolling the dice ...

female intuition is only called so because women develop it more, men have it too, if you take the time to develop it, you will be amazed at the stuff you will see around you
 
Abstract said:
He IS talking about Macs.......mack'in chicks in high school.

Anyway, grow up man. I know I shouldn't say this after what I just said, but I'm not old like you.

Haha, good humor. Seriously though, this post is strange. I don't know if I am for or against it.

I have done well with the ladies so far, and I am two tens and four. I don't see myself married until I am 35. I want to live two lives, the single life and married with kids life.

I thank my stars for life I have been given. It treats me well.
 
Mechcozmo said:
I never understood why it was the guy's responsibility to ask the girls out.
If we're such an equal society, why do we still cling to these ideals? If a girl likes a guy enough to date him, she should ask him out. Replace girl with guy and guy with girl if you feel like it. We're all people.

The worst that could happen is that they don't feel the same towards you, and leave you with your bleeding heart. Or the word could end. Take your pick; there's plenty worst-case scenarios for everyone.

Because the world was never equal. :rolleyes:

Every guy I've ever date asked me out or at least make the move first. If the guy who likes me never made a move then he is obiously either too shy or doesn't have enough confidence so what's the point of dating him anyway?

Yes we're all people... but men and women will never be the same and should never be treat the same way.
 
Mechcozmo said:
I never understood why it was the guy's responsibility to ask the girls out.
If we're such an equal society, why do we still cling to these ideals? If a girl likes a guy enough to date him, she should ask him out. Replace girl with guy and guy with girl if you feel like it. We're all people.

The worst that could happen is that they don't feel the same towards you, and leave you with your bleeding heart. Or the word could end. Take your pick; there's plenty worst-case scenarios for everyone.

Because the world was never equal. :rolleyes:

Every guy I've ever date asked me out or at least make the move first. If the guy who likes me never made a move then he is obiously either too shy or doesn't have enough confidence so what's the point of dating him anyway?

Yes we're all people... but men and women will never be the same and should never be treat the same way.
 
adroit said:
Every guy I've ever date asked me out or at least make the move first. If the guy who likes me never made a move then he is obiously either too shy or doesn't have enough confidence so what's the point of dating him anyway?

That attitude is a bit harsh.

I'm sorry you like to judge a book by its cover rather than the contents.

Very shadow indeed.
 
adroit said:
Every guy I've ever date asked me out or at least make the move first. If the guy who likes me never made a move then he is obiously either too shy or doesn't have enough confidence so what's the point of dating him anyway?

If guys thought that way too, then no one would ever get a date. That's a handy excuse for avoiding rejection, not a real rationale for picking a partner.

I for one like confidence in women, but I'm not foolish enough to keep waiting for a woman who's THAT confident. I guess what bothers me more is not that I have to do the asking, but that she would rather miss an opportunity than take charge of her own dating destiny.
 
revenuee said:
NO ... they are picking guys that are the cream of the crop ... guys who can pick up on it are usually the strongest ...

You're being facetious, right?


revenuee said:
if you are relying on a girl to flat out tell you that she's interested, then you are the one that's rolling the dice ...

That's not rolling the dice, it's wasting your time.
 
adroit said:
Because the world was never equal. :rolleyes:

I'd disagree. The world was equal, and still is to a degree. It just depends on how you look at it.

I have amazing people skills. I can talk to people, become friendly with them, because I don't bother with the 'white/black, male/female, tall/short' bull**** that most people do. It is a challenge, I admit, because it is something instilled in us from our birth. But it truly is doable.

You may think that men and women aren't equal. You are correct. Men and women are different. But they are both people, and all people are equal.
 
aloofman said:
You're being facetious, right?

not at all

like someone mentioned before ... shows confidence if you make approach.

blah, blah, blah, we can talk about equality all we want, but there are still basic male / female dynamics that have developed over millions of years in animal behavior ... all that has changed is how we show the opposite sex we are the strongest male.

i don't have the time to date every girl i might think is cute, she has to have something that hits me right away

women are exactly the same <-- ladies? tell me i'm wrong.

all i know is ---- the world is not fair and equal, and that's a good thing. it means that the rest of the losers are around me are pissing and wining about being alone and leaving me with an abundance of available women.
 
revenuee said:
all i know is ---- the world is not fair and equal, and that's a good thing. it means that the rest of the losers are around me are pissing and wining about being alone and leaving me with an abundance of available women.

You sound like you would get along famously with my ex-girlfriend. :rolleyes:
 
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