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Apple definiely needs a superdrive. A lot of 'professional' users need them. Adding a super-drive would help sales a lot.
 
Re: John123 Returns...

Originally posted by john123


This remark irked me enough to bring me out of months of hiding to respond.

Mac OS 9 is not "antiquated" whatsoever. It's a solid, stable OS that is, from a performance perspective, leaps and bounds ahead of OS X. Even if you have the latest hardware (which I do), the two aren't comparable by any benchmarks. And those differences really kick in while multitasking -- an area in which OS X was supposed to, in theory, excel.

For anyone who cares about the speed of their machine (which, in the business world, is proportional to their productivity), 9 simply makes far more sense. It's Apple that needs to "get with the program" and optimize X to make it at least on par with 9. There are a lot of us out there who couldn't care less about antialiased, shadowed fonts. We like our blocky fonts and our Apple menu and our low bit-depth icons precisely because they make our machines faster. We like to be able to turn off stuff (i.e., extensions and control panels) we don't need to make our machines faster.

Don't lecture me on speed not being "the only thing that matters," either. There's a reason why the microprocessor industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. Speed counts. If you don't think speed counts, then stop using whatever computer you're using right now and go pick up an old Quadra or Centris...or even one of the first Power Macs. See how long you can tolerate it. When you have grown ACCUSTOMED to speed, and it's suddenly taken away from you (as is the case with those of us running 9 on newer hardware), it feels unbearable.

It's time for Apple to step it up and devote some of that R&D money currently designated for iApps to OS optimization. If the new PowerBooks won't run 9, Apple won't be getting my money...and I daresay I'm not alone in this regard, either.

Well, don't get a new PBG4 then...those of you that don't 'get with it' and upgrade to X are going to be left in the cold. Make a book with some cool pictures of your machine....oh, wait...that's right, iPhoto doesn't run on 9. I'm telling ya...you're gonna get left for dead when it comes to new apps and functionality.
 
Originally posted by designpro
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•••Man, F*CK Mac OS 9.x.x!! 9 is dead!! Get with the program and make the jump to X! People that still wanna run 9 just make no sense. ***THIS NEWSBRIEF JUST IN--> MAC OS 9 is an ANTIQUATED OS!*** It served the Mac Community well for many years so let it pass on ALREADY!!•••
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this is the culprit...started all the angry messages.
i'm just gonna drop in my 2cents.
in my opinion, as a professional graphic designer, i thought it would be just fine to stay with OS 9. I understand that OS 9 doesnt have the best looking GUI but then again thats exactly what i need. I wouldnt want fancy stuff from X just so i have to worry about apps updating. i run Quark 4.11, Photoshop 6 and Ilustrator 9, so now can anyone give me a good reason why to update these to Quark 5, Photoshop 7 and Illustrator 10 so that i can have OS X in place? sure as hell that Quark 5 doesnt run on OS X or does it?
so all in all, stop the angry messages and lets just kick back and wait for your PB. Which OS to use comes in diff. territory, so dont be trashing OS 9 since it gave you so much over the years and dont do the same OS X since you know it's a pleasure to look at those beautiful icons.
and again, to a comment that someone complained about the discontinuation of 15"LCD since it'd be nice for him/her to use it as a pallete monitor, i say go **** yourself. i use a 13incher CRT and thats all you need. dont go outta your way to be a fool.

Hey, 9 had its time under the sun. It was good but now there is 'the best' known as Mac OS X. Sounds like you need to make the leap to X too. I don't understand people that want an OS that can't multitask like X, crashes all the time (unlike X), and has more shareware software available like X. You people react like a bunch of slack-jawwed yocals when you think about life without 9. And yes, it is time...aren't you tired of windows


MPhatik
 
Originally posted by mphatik


Hey, 9 had its time under the sun. It was good but now there is 'the best' known as Mac OS X. Sounds like you need to make the leap to X too. I don't understand people that want an OS that can't multitask like X, crashes all the time (unlike X), and has more shareware software available like X. You people react like a bunch of slack-jawwed yocals when you think about life without 9. And yes, it is time...aren't you tired of windows


MPhatik

This "slack-jawwed yocal" (who has an Ivy League degree, incidentally) couldn't disagree more on what has the advantage on multitasking. But...

I simply hope that the new PowerBooks come out in November rather than January and that they sport 1 Ghz processors on the main end. I think that then, regardless of which OS each of us prefers, we'll all be happy.

Anyone heard any gossip? I know some of the folks over at MacNN were talking about 933 and 1.0...but with so little space separating the two, I think Apple'd have a tough time moving the high end -- except for those people who simply want to brag that they have an Apple portable that broke the gigahertz barrier. News anyone?
 
Originally posted by john123

Anyone heard any gossip? I know some of the folks over at MacNN were talking about 933 and 1.0...but with so little space separating the two, I think Apple'd have a tough time moving the high end -- except for those people who simply want to brag that they have an Apple portable that broke the gigahertz barrier. News anyone?

http://www.yourdailymac.com claims 1GHz and Superdrive'd Powerbook.

Similar to other rumors...

arn
 
Well - la de da!

i hope, as suggested by your emoticon, that you were being facetious. the guy is clearly very intelligent, and obviously didn't flash his credentials out at first. he was pressed to say that by all means. it's one thing to diss a guy before you know where he's coming from. it's another to diss him after. of course it doesn't necessarily matter that he's ivy league. he could be so and still be dumb. just likew asses can come out a school like that, geniuses can come out unacclaimed schools. it's not the beall end-all point of credibility. but don't spit on it. it's evidence supporting that the guy is smart and reasonable, which doesn't contradict what he's been posting at all.

why be insulting?
 
Originally posted by Shadowfax


i hope, as suggested by your emoticon, that you were being facetious. the guy is clearly very intelligent, and obviously didn't flash his credentials out at first. he was pressed to say that by all means. it's one thing to diss a guy before you know where he's coming from. it's another to diss him after. of course it doesn't necessarily matter that he's ivy league. he could be so and still be dumb. just likew asses can come out a school like that, geniuses can come out unacclaimed schools. it's not the beall end-all point of credibility. but don't spit on it. it's evidence supporting that the guy is smart and reasonable, which doesn't contradict what he's been posting at all.

why be insulting?
Um - yes. I was being funny.
 
Re: Re: Re: 9 vs X is different on an iBook

Originally posted by Pelorus


Had the same problem. turned out my PSU was dodgy and killed the battery. Course...it was covered under appleCare. Since getting a replacement my battery life is back where it should be...

5 hours on a Pismo? Yeah right. Even at the lowest settings 3 hrs is damn good unless you're counting leaving it asleep...

they must have had defective PSU's I had to get mine replaced as well...I never got a new battery though. Does the new battery give you 3 hours on 9 or X? I used to get 5 all the time on OS 9..
 
My credentials

I also graduated from an Ivy League School, with a PhD in Electrical Engineering no less. I'm glad you're all content with my credentials now.
 
well, if you presented a tone that was anything but haughty and full of assumptions...

"the more i learn, the less i know." like i said, such a credential is no basis for just assuming. i am taking issue with the manner in which you argue. john 123 wasn't being mean. as someone with a doctorate, you should know better than to just shoot down people's opinions without any consideration. so OS X may be better on many things and at everything. it's not god any more than you or me. john123 has had a different user experience. (and probably not totally uncommon at all). just because it's not your user experience, or even a majority of users' experiences, doesn't make it wrong.

OS X is not a total replacement. they (wisely) chose not to make it natively backwards compatible with almost all previous sofware (like M$ has almost always done). that means there are things that people would normally do on OS 9 that they can't do on OS X. it also means that while OS X is better for every computer that 9 is good for (windows XP on a 300 MHz PII-bad idea. 98 is better by far). i don't know what john123's experience is at all, but i've started out from a conciliatory standpoint.

i hate to make a biblical allusion, but arguing at this level when you have a doctorate is like pigs trampling on strings of pearls.
 
lol.

Yeah, everyone will have a different experience. But if I say 'OS X is slower than OS 9' or, 'OS X is faster than OS 9' don't you think it's important to specify what hardware I was making this comparison on? John simply states 'newer hardware'. If I replyed to *anyones* post with a negative tone, it was because I didn't think they supported their opinion. Since this is mac*rumors*.com, maybe supporting information/evidence isn't something you're interested in.
 
Monitor spanning

I don't really care about new displays. The ONE thing that I want from Apple's iMac, eMac, and iBook, is the ability to span the display across two monitors.

The 700 MHz iBook is capable of monitor spanning, it requires an Open Firmware adjustment. Some 600's are as well, it depends on the graphics chipset. And apparently the 17" iMac FP should be capable of it, too. See my last post for links; it's near the middle of pg 5 of this thread.

(tig)
 
Monitor spanning

I wish Apple would put out an official firmware update to make the G4 iMac's support monitor spanning. Actually, what I'd like is a 17" G4 iMac that has a spanned-SVGA output option like the PowerBook. (not a mirrored SVGA screen) Then I could use it for Final Cut Pro and have a real-time preview monitor.
 
Re: Monitor spanning

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
I wish Apple would put out an official firmware update to make the G4 iMac's support monitor spanning. Actually, what I'd like is a 17" G4 iMac that has a spanned-SVGA output option like the PowerBook. (not a mirrored SVGA screen) Then I could use it for Final Cut Pro and have a real-time preview monitor.

Did you check out the links from my earlier post? The current 17" iMacs THEORETICALLY support monitor spanning (not just mirroring), but it requires booting into Open Firmware first. From there, you can do a temp adjustment, or make it permanent. It's been successfully done with high-end iBooks, and some of the 600's as well. Depends on the graphics chipset. Anyways, check it out. Maybe someone has confirmed this ability in the iMacs.

However, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Apple to make it official. The spanning is one of the things that separates the iBook from the PowerBook.

(tig)
 
TiBook price drop at campus bookstore

I am a student at USC and the price of G4 Powerbooks have been dropped to $1,899 for the 667mhz and $2,399 for the 800mhz at the campus bookstore. I was in the market for a new laptop but because of the price drops I assume that Apple is releasing new laptops soon. Hopefully Nov. 5th is the day, but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes longer than that.
 
Re: TiBook price drop at campus bookstore

Originally posted by pepeleuepe
I am a student at USC and the price of G4 Powerbooks have been dropped to $1,899 for the 667mhz and $2,399 for the 800mhz at the campus bookstore. I was in the market for a new laptop but because of the price drops I assume that Apple is releasing new laptops soon. Hopefully Nov. 5th is the day, but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes longer than that.

Those EDU prices have been in effect for a month or more...so nothing new there.
 
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw

Well - la de da!
:D

just a bit of info fer all you ivy-cred'd high-falutin' ding-dong PhD happy-hour hooligans: "yokel" is spelled with a "kel", not a "cal" (but query whether there are fewer fat yokels as a result)...:eek:

lighten up y'all! we're talking gear here; imagine the stress someone like Vlad Putin is under right now (see drudge and other news) and the heated discussions going on in his cabinet and elsewhere, and get some perspective on your tone-of-post!
 
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