To add: Even using built-in apps like camera and get a call... I was videoing an event with my kids and the phone rang. I mistakenly thought it was still recording so I ignored the call until it went to voicemail. Nope, the video stopped recording right when the call began coming through and I lost great footage.
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iPad 1Gb of RAM is enough, be happy :)
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To add: Even using built-in apps like camera and get a call... I was videoing an event with my kids and the phone rang. I mistakenly thought it was still recording so I ignored the call until it went to voicemail. Nope, the video stopped recording right when the call began coming through and I lost great footage.
The phone will terminate video or audio recording when a call comes through. In other words, you can't record video or audio while the microphone is already being utilized for a phone call.
As I said way earlier in this thread, I never bought the iPad Air 1 due to it's RAM. I now have an Air 2 with 2GB of RAM and get around 1400MB free. No tab reloads, no app reloads and it should get a silly amount of OS updates before being discontinued. That is the benefit of 2GB of RAM, easy as that.
As odd as it is, I haven't any trouble with my Air and safari or anything else for that matter. It really does seem to affect some folks more than others or not at all. Depends on what sites, what apps, and probably a lot of other things we don't even know about. I still think safari needs optimization and better memory management.
Oh well.
Totally agree on both points that you made. Sadly I am a user that found the Air 1's insufficient (I used family members Air 1's for certain things and found it to be troublesome). My biggest grip is even people that don't have an issue right now will do in a few years time (where the Air 2 shale not, at least as soon). I really see it as an iPad 1 vs iPad 2 situation where the difference in RAM made the iPad 1 max out at iOS 5.1.1 and the iPad 2 is still going and can be upgrade to iOS 8 ( and it could even be supported next years as well, but that is just guess work). That one year of a difference ( in terms of waiting for the iPad 1 over the 2) granted users and extra 3 years worth of updates and I can also say that an iPad 2 runs iOS 8 better than the iPad 1 running iOS 5. This is the problem.
You are basically saying that you are the smart one, while Apple engineers, even if they hire some of the most talented people out there, are so stupid they can't find such an easy solution like a swap file.
Very credible.
You know, I used to be in the camp of those trying to defend Apple's decision to keep the ram at 1gb, but now that I have the Air 2 and see how much better it runs and especially how well Safari does with the extra ram, I am really baffled as to why they took to so long to upgrade the ram. I would love to hear from them as to what their rational was.
do you really need to bash people who says some critics against mighty apple? they have their opinions, if you cant handle it, stop reading then... you dont need to always praise Apple. btw, why didnt they ever fix safari during these years? maybe they should hire some super, hyper humans to do that??
Great point! I see it exactly the same way.
I still opted to go for the iPad Air (original) this go around as I got a great deal on a new 32 GB wifi model ($399). I tend to trade up every year, so other than the "reloading" issue (Safari, etc...), I think the Air (original) will handle iOS 8 just fine for the next year for my use (I don't use the iPad for any "heavy lifting").
I'll plan to sell the iPad (original) prior to next years launch and trade up to the Air 3. Of course at that time if it looks as if the Air 2 can handle whatever new features iOS 9 brings just fine and there aren't any "significant" upgrades that I just have to have....I'll certainly be looking for a good deal on a new Air 2. Works for me!
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They are not going to give you a reason. You like many others, including myself, got short changed by buying a product that was half baked just like the ipad 3. In the case of the 3, they rushed it to market for the retina display, whilst for the Air it was the thinness. The Air 2 should have been the original ipad Air.
But hey, they are a business and we are the blinded fanboys jumping on whatever they throw at us.
I know I will never get an answer as to why they made the decisions they did. I was just saying I wouls like yo know.
I totally disagree with your take on the 3 being half baked. I've had every iPad but the 4, and the 3 was a fantastic upgrade from the 2.
People are comparing the Air 1 to the iPad 3? Utterly hilarious and absolutely ridiculous. The iPad 3 suffered because the A5X just wasn't enough to power the Retina Display. Simple.
iPad Air did not "suffer" because Apple raced to make a thinner iPad. The power required to supply the Retina Display on a full size iPad was "figured out" with iPad 4. There was no hardware feature of the Air that stopped it being powerful, it was thinner and lighter than the 4 but even more powerful.
I have no idea why people come on these forums to trash talk outgoing generations of hardware, especially when it's absolute drivel. Does it give you a warm fuzzy feeling at night or something?
iPad Air did not "suffer" because Apple raced to make a thinner iPad. The power required to supply the Retina Display on a full size iPad was "figured out" with iPad 4. There was no hardware feature of the Air that stopped it being powerful, it was thinner and lighter than the 4 but even more powerful.
I have no idea why people come on these forums to trash talk outgoing generations of hardware, especially when it's absolute drivel. Does it give you a warm fuzzy feeling at night or something?
Android doesn't have a fixed "UI". The UI is whatever is created by whoever wants to develop one. It is basically a Linux kernel modified for mobile device use. Samsung's UI/launcher (Touchwiz) is not the same as the UI/launcher used on Amazon's Kindle Fires or for Google's Nexus devices. Plus there are whole forums of devs (e.g., XDA-developers) who make android look nothing like what might originally come out of a box.
What might be interesting to see is the time when OSX merges with iOS, although the PTB keep claiming it will never happen (and it would be difficult to do ---see Winblows 8--- but then Apple put out a phablet so.. who knows?.
)Clearly you have no clue, the iPad Air 1 was a crippled product compared to the ipad 4 since going 64 bit without boosting the sRAM meant that about 30% more memory resources were being used. So, although the A7 was indeed a more powerful chip, the A6 turned out having more sRAM giving it a competitive advantage in some areas. Who is the trash talker now?
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I can assure you that you are in the minority with this opinion. But hey, if you have been a happy camper with your purchase, who am I to argue?
That was cool. I assume Iowa Seven meant iOS 7...
I can't wait till Omaha 9. Peyton Manning is said to be doing the commercials in place of Jimmy Fallon.
I have an Air 2, I am thinking of picking up the first one and running it on IOS 7, I doubt it would be on IOS 8 sitting on a Best Buy shelf I am thinking for awhile. Comparison should be fun, I know the advantages the Air 2 offers but from purely the standpoint of performance perspective with the things I do I bet the Air 1 would be fine. Heck, it was when I had it back when but dumped it for the Air 2. I just never did a side by side not having both at the same time.
And I am not concerned for the future, I will upgrade the Air 1 down the road. If it works out for me now will be fine and no vibration, a larger battery and IOS 7 hopefully does the trick whereby the Air 2 is not needed.
No, the Air 1 isn't crippled at all. Mine has been cruising right along since day 1 without much fuss. I'm not. A user that has 10 tabs opened at once so maybe I'm a bad test case but this RAM thing was a tad overblown, IMO. The air runs great.
In my opinion that's a bad idea. Once Apple updates iOS they stop providing updates for the older versions. That's means no security updates, OS updates, I mean nothing at all. Honestly, iOS 7.1 doesn't run that great on the iPad Air 1 unless you don't mind random Safari crashes and not using tabs in Safari.
The Air 1 isn't crippled, nor is there any reason that it shouldn't be upgraded to iOS 8. Comparing it to the iPad 3 is a bit silly, the 3 had it far worse.
The Air 1 though wasn't a screaming buy when it came out and still isn't a screaming buy either today. Its basically mostly like the iPad 4 but just a reskin without substantial hardware upgrades. Air 1 was just a shell/skin game.
Air 2 is a significant upgrade - 3 core CPU, 2GB of RAM, Touch ID, coated glass, new glass sandwich... these upgrades are more than skin deep. The Air 2 is a screaming buy... the Air 1 was just a buy me if you think I'm pretty proposition. The Air 2 will definitely outlive the Air 1, with its significant hardware upgrades.
The Air 1 though wasn't a screaming buy when it came out and still isn't a screaming buy either today. Its basically mostly like the iPad 4 but just a reskin without substantial hardware upgrades. Air 1 was just a shell/skin game.
Air 2 is a significant upgrade - 3 core CPU, 2GB of RAM, Touch ID, coated glass, new glass sandwich... these upgrades are more than skin deep. The Air 2 is a screaming buy... the Air 1 was just a buy me if you think I'm pretty proposition. The Air 2 will definitely outlive the Air 1, with its significant hardware upgrades.
I appreciate the feedback, thanks to those who gave it since my last post.
I will hold off on the Air 1 for now. I'd like to save the money difference but I am aware of the Air 2 pros which outweigh the cost savings regardless of the vibration which really has limited impact in my usage.
I will hold off on the Air 1 for now. I'd like to save the money difference but I am aware of the Air 2 pros which outweigh the cost savings regardless of the vibration which really has limited impact in my usage.
Maybe I haven't been looking around hard enough, but finally somebody else who gets it! The 64-bit CPU killed the RAM. I'm kinda regretting buying my iPhone 6 Plus for this reason. It has more problems crashing or having Safari errors/tab reloads than my iPhone 5 running iOS 8even the last beta version that I installed! Pretty sure I'll be selling this for the iPhone 6Sand probably not the Plus model either. But that's a different story.
I own an air 1 and just ordered the two. The Air 1 was absolutely crippled by lack of ram. I get reloads with just two tabs and sometimes just one tab being opened. "Multitasking" is just another way to launch programs on that device because it is constantly reloading apps. I am actually surprised when an app doesn't have to reload.
I own a three and it wasn't nearly this bad (I gave this device to my wife). I could make forum posts without any reload issues and multitasking worked better (not perfect but better). She is going to get my hand-me-down air and I warned her of the constant reload issues and she said she didn't care because the way she uses the device it would not be an issue. It is entirely possible that you are the same sort of user who doesn't use more than a tab or two of safari or doesn't mind constant app/tab reloads.
I was prepared to buy an ipad 4 and sell my air if the ipad air 2 had not fixed this issue.
MacDuke, could you explain us in more details why do you regret to buy an iPhone 6+ 128GB, please?
Do you really find it slower than iPhone5?
In which situations? (Also with iOS 8.1?)