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If you are referring to the log messages, how many people outside of here actually go into the logs? Apple should have worded that differently to avoid the conspiracy.

To me, an error is when I launch an app and it crashes because of low memory. If it launches but simply displaces another app that was in memory, that's not an error. That's design. I can switch quickly enough to the other app. I don't experience the mysterious Safari crashes some people complain about. Yes, after several tabs, it has to refresh the first tab I opened. Again, by design. It may not be opening as many tabs as I would like, but that's not an "error". Even with 5GB of RAM someone is going to complain they can't open enough tabs because they are trying to open 234 tabs. Its silly.

If someone who didn't know a lot about computers read some of the posts in this thread, you would think the iPad is actually broken....

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If I wanted to do something with the iPad now that it couldn't do, maybe. But what I need it to do that it doesn't has nothing to do with RAM. If it could run Windows, that would be awesome, so I could run Quicken. Other than that, my iPad is fine. It works. With 1GB. Would it work better with 2GB? Maybe. But again, some of the posts here make it seem like its broken, because some folks are prone to hyperbole and exaggeration.

I've told you this before... Low memory log errors only occur when the FRONT app gets killed due to low memory. Apps killed in the background don't get log entries.
 
Just throwing hardware at a software problem is a quick fix but adds costs and possible complexities. Then, when the Air gets 2GB of RAM and still has reloads or whatever else after a few more tabs are opened....then what? I know, the Air now needs 4GB or RAM. Then.... After that.... You know where this is going.
Unless a paging system is implemented in iOS, there will be tab reloads in Safari. For me, the primary annoyance is how often these occur on the iPad Air + iOS 7 compared to the iPad 3/4 + iOS 6. Browsers for iOS tend to handle the limited amount of RAM differently. Safari seems to discard cached data from inactive tabs resulting in tab reloads, Chrome tends to just crash without warning while some browsers limit the number of tabs you have open.
 
I've told you this before... Low memory log errors only occur when the FRONT app gets killed due to low memory. Apps killed in the background don't get log entries.

Forget it, it's like trying to convince a brick wall. Anything other than apple is great/infallible, and the defense comes on strong. I've posted videos of only safari open and tab reloads with only two tabs. Some find this acceptable, others obviously do not. Without a paging mechanism, the amount of ram and/or poor safari performance makes for a poor user experience when using safari/WebKit.

Just wait until multitasking in ios8, and the air being incapable of utlilizing it. Heck, the ipad4 will do better than the air in multitasking.
 
After the confirmation that the iPad 2 will support iOS 8 I wouldn't be surprised if the 2nd gen Air still has 1GB of ram.
 
2GiB is not only common for higher end Android phones now, my $300 Blackberry Z10 also has 2GiB, which is excellent news.

I already bought a skimpy 256MB iPad 1, I'm not doing that again.

The maxipad better have at least 3GiB RAM, like the latest Samsung stuff. And there should be at least a 256GB storage option.

I don't think the idea of "good news" from someone who willingly bought a Blackberry Z10 is something anyone should trust or take seriously. Ever.

I'd much rather have my Air with it's 1GB RAM
 
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I don't think the idea of "good news" from someone who willingly bought a Blackberry Z10 is something anyone should trust or take seriously. Ever.

I'd much rather have my Air with it's 1GB RAM

I would take an ipad with 64mb of ram, no speakers, black and white screen, 10 minutes battery time, and only one tab at a time in safari over anything BB.
 
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I would take an ipad with 64mb of ram, no speakers, black and white screen, 10 minutes battery time, and only one tab at a time in safari over anything BB.

haha

Blackberry are just no longer relevant. I feel that they are still trying to keep up though which is nice. Maybe they should regain market share with something else (designing business tablets?).
 
I would take an ipad with 64mb of ram, no speakers, black and white screen, 10 minutes battery time, and only one tab at a time in safari over anything BB.

Why? Is it because you appreciate technology or because your just an apple sucker. Your post seems to imply the latter.
You can be a tech geek and like apple for their tech, but something that bad obviously shows that you just buy the products for the brand.
 
Why? Is it because you appreciate technology or because your just an apple sucker. Your post seems to imply the latter.
You can be a tech geek and like apple for their tech, but something that bad obviously shows that you just buy the products for the brand.

I thought it was kind of obvious that the comment implying that even the worst iPad possible would still be better than buying a BB...

And it was a joke, to convey how bad a position BB are now. To be honest, I would always pick the iPad if I had to decide between an iPad 1 and any BB device.
 
I thought it was kind of obvious that the comment implying that even the worst iPad possible would still be better than buying a BB...

And it was a joke, to convey how bad a position BB are now. To be honest, I would always pick the iPad if I had to decide between an iPad 1 and any BB device.

If BlackBerry came tomorrow with a BB10 tablet with 128GiB of built-in storage, I would buy it.
 
If BlackBerry came tomorrow with a BB10 tablet with 128GiB of built-in storage, I would buy it.

Fair enough. I'm just saying I wouldn't. There isn't enough apps on the BB store to fill half of that though.

And the abbreviation for Gigabyte is GB, not GiB (with Gigabit being Gb).
 
Fair enough. I'm just saying I wouldn't. There isn't enough apps on the BB store to fill half of that though.

And the abbreviation for Gigabyte is GB, not GiB (with Gigabit being Gb).

Yes, I meant 128GB, not 128GiB. Those semi-multiples always confuse me and I have to pay attention.
 
BTW, I first wanted to point out that the even the iPad 1 has double the RAM mentioned in the thread title.

What are you talking about? The iPad 1 has 256Mb of RAM. The iPad 2 has 512Mb of RAM, and the iPad 3,4 and Air have 1Gb of RAM (although the iPad Air uses DDR3 RAM). I believe you are getting mixed up with RAM (also known as memory) and storage (also known as backing storage).
 
What are you talking about? The iPad 1 has 256Mb of RAM. The iPad 2 has 512Mb of RAM, and the iPad 3,4 and Air have 1Gb of RAM (although the iPad Air uses DDR3 RAM). I believe you are getting mixed up with RAM (also known as memory) and storage (also known as backing storage).

The iPad 1 has 256 MiB RAM = 2 Gib

The iPad 2 has 512 MiB RAM

The other iPads have 1 GiB RAM
 
Why? Is it because you appreciate technology or because your just an apple sucker. Your post seems to imply the latter.
You can be a tech geek and like apple for their tech, but something that bad obviously shows that you just buy the products for the brand.

It's because I actually bought a BB tablet. It sucked so much and features were so limited I gave it to my 7 YO cousin. I'm pretty sure it was even more useless for him and it ended up being thrown in the trash,
 
Watching a youtube link in a forum or taking a picture generally causes apps I'm switching from to reload. I wish there was a bit more RAM to prevent that from happening or like mentioned in the OP some sort of memory compression.

I find myself constantly switching back to an app I don't want to get pushed out of a suspended state just to keep it "fresh". I don't find that to be a very good user experience.

For example if I'm in an app like tapatalk, then watch a link someone posted and/or do research on a subject in a browser I constantly keep switching back to tapatalk to make sure it doesn't reload and lose everything I already typed. Or I will select/copy everything a typed in the event that does happen.

Regardless of whether Safari tab reloading is a RAM issue or not apps reloading is. And personally I'd like to see that fixed or at least made a lot better regardless of how its accomplished, more RAM or not.
 
It's because I actually bought a BB tablet. It sucked so much and features were so limited I gave it to my 7 YO cousin. I'm pretty sure it was even more useless for him and it ended up being thrown in the trash,

Because you went and just bought it anyway when it was well known from the beginning that it was a half-baked product.

That has nothing to do with what a BB10 tablet would be now.
 
Watching a youtube link in a forum or taking a picture generally causes apps I'm switching from to reload. I wish there was a bit more RAM to prevent that from happening or like mentioned in the OP some sort of memory compression.

I find myself constantly switching back to an app I don't want to get pushed out of a suspended state just to keep it "fresh". I don't find that to be a very good user experience.

For example if I'm in an app like tapatalk, then watch a link someone posted and/or do research on a subject in a browser I constantly keep switching back to tapatalk to make sure it doesn't reload and lose everything I already typed. Or I will select/copy everything a typed in the event that does happen.

Regardless of whether Safari tab reloading is a RAM issue or not apps reloading is. And personally I'd like to see that fixed or at least made a lot better regardless of how its accomplished, more RAM or not.

If an app is dumping your user state when it is flushed from RAM, that's a problem with the app developer, not the OS. There is no reason for that behavior. Safari is a different animal, but plenty of websites have been updated to store user data at least in the short term.
 
Taking into account that the latest iPhone6 and 6+, their new A8 and having even Full HD resolution screens (6+ model), but still 1GB DDR3 RAM, I am not sure if in the new iPAD's to be presented next 22nd OCt they will move to higher RAM sizes :confused:.

Honestly speaking, for the next iPad Air 2, iPad Mini 3, I think that they will stick still with the same A8 SOC with its integrated 1GB DDR3 RAM.

But maybe, when Apple will release the rumored iPad 12.9" Pro, with a supposed higher resolution and maybe a A8X,.... only maybe due its professional purpose, they could increase the RAM to 1.5GB or even 2GB.

For me was shocking not see at least 1.5GB in the newest iPhones 6/6+, and I doubt if they will struggle with that 1GB RAM size on newer iOS8.1, 9 or even iOS10. It looks to me that if there is a HW step in RAM increasing, Apple should show us in 20 days countdown ;)
 
Taking into account that the latest iPhone6 and 6+, their new A8 and having even Full HD resolution screens (6+ model), but still 1GB DDR3 RAM, I am not sure if in the new iPAD's to be presented next 22nd OCt they will move to higher RAM sizes :confused:.

Honestly speaking, for the next iPad Air 2, iPad Mini 3, I think that they will stick still with the same A8 SOC with its integrated 1GB DDR3 RAM.

But maybe, when Apple will release the rumored iPad 12.9" Pro, with a supposed higher resolution and maybe a A8X,.... only maybe due its professional purpose, they could increase the RAM to 1.5GB or even 2GB.

For me was shocking not see at least 1.5GB in the newest iPhones 6/6+, and I doubt if they will struggle with that 1GB RAM size on newer iOS8.1, 9 or even iOS10. It looks to me that if there is a HW step in RAM increasing, Apple should show us in 20 days countdown ;)

I never bought the iPad Air because it had 1GB of RAM and I will only buy the Air 2 if it comes with 2GB. With Apple using such a large amount of the RAM produced every year, that appears to be why the iPhone 6's never got double the RAM (Apple's iOS device account for 25% of the total RAM created every year) so having it start on the iPad to slowly ramp up orders would be possible. RAM starvation doesn't seem to be as much of an issue on the iPhone's as the iPad's so that would be another reason to shy the iPad's would get it first (along with split-screen multitasking code being present in iOS 8's code). With the leaked info in August as well as the leaked images showcasing the RAM, I do see it being possible that the iPad Air 2 will come with 2GB of RAM.

Fingers Crossed ;)
 
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If an app is dumping your user state when it is flushed from RAM, that's a problem with the app developer, not the OS. There is no reason for that behavior. Safari is a different animal, but plenty of websites have been updated to store user data at least in the short term.

Not really.

Its every app. Tapatalk, youtube, pandora, maps, Facebook, find my friends, netflix, hulu, instagram etc etc. Any app with any substance, even Apples native apps.

When they get pushed from RAM you are going to be restarting from scratch. Apps like tapatalk MIGHT have saved a draft of what you were typing, but not only is that rare you still need to start the app over and find where you were through the forum.
 
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