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1Password 7 for Mac Launching Today With Redesigned Sidebar, Easier Access to Vaults, and Much More
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What does it mean when it says Touch ID will leverage the Secure Enclave? I thought any app using Touch ID did that?
Wah, Wah Wah. All these babies complaining about subscription services for this and other programs are living in a dream world. No one considers development costs, overhead and any royalty fees associated with those development costs. Get real. Programs cost money as does cloud based storage services that the subscription fees cover.
Ok, didn't thought beta would last so short, and totally forgot. But I think it will cost $79.99 or something after beta. But I also recall that they said it will be a special at launch. Whatever, I'm ok with $49.99. It's a damn good softwareIt was $39.99 a few days ago. Yeah, I missed that boat too
Pretty sure I paid under $20 for both the OS X and iOS versions in 2014I paid only $28 in May 2015
No, they are already on 7. I asked same question, as I was thinking if I would save on subscription.
But as I already bought them...so no.
Curious how it can compare my password database against a list of known hacked passwords without introducing a potential opportunity for someone to exploit this feature to obtain my passwords.
Seems like a breach waiting to happen.
Perhaps it downloads the list of breached passwords to my local hard drive and performs a local scan without sending my passwords across the Internet.
But that seems to perpetuate the known breach. And can be used by someone just to obtain a local cache of passwords somebody else already obtained.
It also seems possible that someone could intercept that transmission and use the request to trick my system into granting access.
If my passwords are being retrieved and compared on their server, then I’m really not interested.
And if my passwords are stored in the cloud, I’m definitely not interested.
Any point where all my passwords are grouped together in one spot presents a weak point. You now have one target to get everything.
Admittedly I haven’t fully researched 1 Password. But on the surface, even if they claim encryption, this all sounds like a bad idea.
A point of comparison means that data is being accessed.
Seems like a breach waiting to happen.
Perhaps it downloads the list of breached passwords to my local hard drive and performs a local scan without sending my passwords across the Internet.
But that seems to perpetuate the known breach. And can be used by someone just to obtain a local cache of passwords somebody else already obtained.
It also seems possible that someone could intercept that transmission and use the request to trick my system into granting access.
If my passwords are being retrieved and compared on their server, then I’m really not interested.
And if my passwords are stored in the cloud, I’m definitely not interested.
Any point where all my passwords are grouped together in one spot presents a weak point. You now have one target to get everything.
Admittedly I haven’t fully researched 1 Password. But on the surface, even if they claim encryption, this all sounds like a bad idea.
A point of comparison means that data is being accessed.
That was a good price!Pretty sure I paid under $20 for both the OS X and iOS versions in 2014
Looks like this was posted early, yea. It'll be out closer to 11 eastern time today.
I think this one is on us, or at least we'll take responsibility. MacRumors may not have gotten the part about not posting until a time after which we posted the next version. It'll be available closer to 11 eastern time today.
We'd rather you use any quality password manager than not use one at all. I wish you luck and thanks for being a user of 1Password!
Jump the gun much
Probably our fault on this one. Sorry about that! Look closer to 11 eastern time for the build to be available. I'll try to update this thread as well. But since I'm the one doing the build it might come a bit after when I've remembered I should do this part
It'll be available for purchase in the app once it's available closer to 11 eastern time.
I do not see any version of 1 Password on the Mac App Store right now. I searched for it, looked for it under utilities, and nothing. I do not know what is going on, but nothing is on the MAS right now.
Also, I paid for my copy of 1 Password on the MAS...so does this mean I will not have to pay for this upgrade or I will? Thanks a lot!
This article was posted a tad early. 11 eastern time is around when we'll be posting it.
This update is a paid purchase for all users. Version 6 was a previous app that we pulled from the store earlier this week so people wouldn't purchase it and get the old version. Version 7 will be a new app and the Mac App Store version will be for 1Password.com users primarily. You can't purchase a license for it from the Mac App Store.
If you want to use the license version you'll need to download directly from our website once version 7 becomes available. (closer to 11am eastern time).
You'll download the version directly from our website when it becomes available. https://www.1password.com/downloads
Sorry, this article was posted a little early. Closer to 11am eastern time you'll find it's available.
Yep. Jumped the gun on this one. No app in the App Store and no mention of this on the Agile Bits website ... maybe they changed their mind?
Nope, our plan was to release closer to 11am eastern, the article was just posted early. Probably our fault for this being posted early since we may not have given MacRumors the time we were shipping.
Thanks for the positivity! I hope you enjoy version 7, we had a blast creating it and we look forward to your feedback.
Some things will be different, so I encourage you to try them for a few days and then let us know what your feedback is, if any
It'll be available in the app when you download it. It'll be available later this morning on our website.
There's a store built into the app so you'll only see it there after running version 7. It'll be available in the next few hours, closer to 11am eastern time and you can download it on our website.
Look on our website closer to 11am eastern time.
Good news, you can purchase a license in the app. No subscription required.
This is correct information. Thanks for posting!
Did you miss this part of the story?
"For those who wish to purchase a license for 1Password 7 for Mac, instead of a subscription, the app must be downloaded directly from the AgileBits website. Licenses are $49.99 for a limited time, and $64.99 after that, and are per-person, per-platform. macOS Sierra or later is required."
@AGKyle I’m a long time LastPass user and am happy with it. However I just signed up with your 30 day free trial this morning and will give it consideration.
Firefox is my primary browser as I use its Firefox Sync across macOS, Windows and Linux. Can I use your browser extension easily across all 3 operating systems?
Firefox is my primary browser as I use its Firefox Sync across macOS, Windows and Linux. Can I use your browser extension easily across all 3 operating systems?
I've been using the beta for a few weeks and I think it's solid upgrade, I especially like the overhauled Watchtower section.
App Store family sharing isn't possible anymore.
If you have 4 family members, you have to purchase 4 separate licenses now.
We sent MacRumors, and several other news outlets a press release and a packet of information about 1Password 7. Each outlet has chosen whether or not they want to cover the release or not. We have not paid any of these outlets for coverage and all we did was reach out to them via a contact we had from previous interactions or their press contact form.
In that press pack we provided a bunch of standard information, so reading several different news articles may result in you seeing very similar messaging, and that's on purpose so that the message is consistent. This is how it works in the industry.
Sorry at this point standalone license model is not coming to the Mac App Store. We wrote a whole article about it here:
Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
If you want a standalone license it'll only be available from our website version. I'm sorry if this doesn't fit with how you like to do things, but for the sake of making this process easier in the future this is the route we had to go with.
Now in the future all of our subscription users, who are entitled to each new version as part of that subscription, will get updates automatically. No manual process necessary for them.
For our website using users, if they're on a subscription, the future major versions will mean they also get updated automatically, and for our standalone license users they'll be prompted to update in the app when a new major update comes along and we can handle their case separately.
If we made the standalone license version available on the Mac App Store every single user would have to manually update each major upgrade. This wasn't the type of experience we wanted to give our subscription users, but since we have more control over how this works with our website download we have opted to do the licenses only from there.
Hey, thanks for the positive comments. We hope you enjoy the update and thanks for being a 1Password user. It's really nice seeing that our users are getting value from 1Password. We all work really hard to make it great and hope that everyone enjoys it as much as we do.
To be fair, we probably created some of this by not charging for upgrades sooner. Sometimes you can be too kind and hurt yourself
Every item gets a generated rich icon in this version, even if we don't have the rich icons from the site. Note that we don't make those rich icons, they're icons that came from the website itself. If those icons do not exist then we don't have them. If they're stored in weird places, we don't have them. So in this version we opted to try to generate something unique for each item. It's done programmatically so each login item will have one this time around.
1Password.eu is GDPR compliant. It uses a data center over in Europe to help achieve part of that. You can sign up by going to 1password.eu and clicking a plan to sign up with. It is otherwise treated the exact same as any other account in the 1Password apps, just sign in and you're set.
US: https://start.1password.com/signup/plan
EU: https://start.1password.eu/signup/plan
CA: https://start.1password.ca/signup/plan
Pricing will be in USD for .com, Euro for EU, and CAN Dollar for .ca.
Hope that helps!
Thank you for helping test 1Password 7!
We really couldn't have made this release possible without the help of our beta testers this time around. Everyone did a fantastic job of helping report bugs and provide constructive feedback.
I'm always amazed at how fast it syncs as well. It's blazing fast for me. It's part of what makes running the entire stack so useful, you can optimize for your use case and we were able to make some things incredibly fast and easy because we didn't have to generalize how things worked like we would have to do if we used some other cloud syncing provider's SDK.
We never actually have your credit card information. It's all done through Stripe. So it's not our security that matters with regard to your purchase information, it's Stripe, and they're used pretty much everywhere now.
Look for the update closer to 11 eastern time today
Sorry to hear that. We'd rather you use any quality password manager, even if it isn't ours, than not use one at all. So hopefully you're using something else at the very least.
Thanks for chiming in here with your use case and experience. And thank you for giving the subscription a fair shake. I see it bashed heavily around here but in the end it does provide the best experience because we can tailor it to our product exactly instead of having to cut corners because other stuff doesn't allow it or make it possible. With our subscription stuff the limit is mostly our imagination.
I paid only $28 in May 2015
Sounds like you got a great deal
Indeed it does. Once version 7 is released, closer to 11 eastern this morning, you'll be able to purchase a standalone license within the app.
Thanks for your support! We hope you enjoy the update when you can get your hands on it!
It does have a standalone license option. It'll be purchasable in the app when it's released from our website directly later this afternoon. Closer to 11am eastern.
Sorry, looks like there may have been a miscommunication on our end and MacRumors posted this early as a result. It'll be available closer to 11am eastern time.
Jump the gun much
Yep. Jumped the gun on this one. No app in the App Store and no mention of this on the Agile Bits website ... maybe they changed their mind?
AgileBits requested that we hold the article until at least 12:00 a.m. on Tuesday. I published at the earliest opportunity.
The headline said it launches today. Not launched. I've now updated the article to make it even more clear though.
cc @AGKyle
The article is not affiliated with AgileBits in any manner beyond them sending us a press release.
It'll update you to the stable version later today when it's released.
It was $39.99 a few days ago. Yeah, I missed that boat too
Sorry! We advertised this on our blog post when we announced the beta was available. The price will be going to $64.99 once the current launch pricing is done. I think that'll last a few weeks at most. So if you want the current discounted price of $49.99 get it while it's available!
One of our engineers posted details about this here. I'd recommend giving that a read.
The iOS app is already on version 7. No clue what may happen for version 8, we're simply too far away to give any predictions or ideas there. We're on version 7 for the foreseeable future.
Ok, didn't thought beta would last so short, and totally forgot. But I think it will cost $79.99 or something after beta. But I also recall that they said it will be a special at launch. Whatever, I'm ok with $49.99. It's a damn good software
$64.99 After the current launch promotional pricing is done. It'll likely last a few weeks.
We take the password, hash it, then lop all but the first 5 characters of the hash. We then send that hash to haveibeenpwned and it sends back a list of all hashed passwords that match the prefix of the hash we sent it. We then compare the full hash to the list we received.
We can't download the full list, it's something like 10 gigabytes in size.
We wouldn't introduce this feature if it wasn't secure.
Hey, thanks for giving it a try! Please let me know if you have any questions!
We are super excited about the new Watchtower. Glad to hear you're enjoying it as well!
Correct. Family purchasing is done entirely via the subscription model now. It provides the best price and the best features for typical family use. For those who don't want the subscription they can purchase individual licenses but there is no longer a discount for those like we offered in the past. This is one big shift and I'm sure it'll make some users unhappy but the 1Password.com Family plan is miles ahead of what we previously offered in the past for family use.
For instance, if one of your family members forgets their Master Password, you (and any other Family Organizer on the plan) can help them reset their account and regain access to their data again. Without ever knowing their Master Password.
Want to share a vault with your family members? Just create the vault, choose who you're sharing it with and next time they unlock 1Password it'll automatically appear.
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Don't worry about it at all. I am confident this was our mistake not yours, entirely our responsibility anyway. But I appreciate you making an alteration. I'm here for the foreseeable future though and will be responding to comments
Thanks a ton for posting this article though. It's greatly appreciated and everyone at AgileBits was excited to see it this morning!
Informative link. Thank you.
I see the effort and care to minimize possible exploits in the description. But I don’t personally feel that it goes far enough. I don’t say that to discredit obviously talented programmers. But I don’t feel it’s secure enough for my preferences.
Whether theoretical or practical, I feel like there’s greater risk involved than my current method (which doesn’t involve any transmission of passwords except on an individual site by site manual entry) and no central cache of all my passwords online.
I’ll give you the short answer. Have I Been Pwned is managed by Troy Hunt, a very well known security researcher. You can check yourself at https://haveibeenpwned.com/. You only need an email. Troy obtains lists of breached info and will return back whether the email address has been breached and which list it came from. It’s a very helpful tool. He also has an article on his collaboration with 1Password. https://www.troyhunt.com/have-i-been-pwned-is-now-partnering-with-1password/
Suffice to say, your credentials aren’t being sent anywhere so no breach waiting to happen. 1Password has many white papers describing their security methodology. You should read them to understand better how it works. It’s very informative, all things considered, and you’ll learn a lot.