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1Password 8 for Apple Watch Released With New Features and Complications

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AgileBits has announced the release of 1Password 8 for Apple Watch, a natural extension to its iOS app that completes the rollout of the new version of its multi-platform password manager.

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1Password on Apple Watch gives users customizable access to "nearly anything" in their 1Password account, even when they don't have their iPhone or an internet connection, according to the developers. The rebuilt app also brings full support for watch face complications. From the AgileBits blog post:
1Password now offers complications you can configure for quick access to nearly any kind of information from your 1Password account. Need to keep your booking code handy while traveling? Add it as a complication to your current watch face so you can get to it in a single tap. Always logging into a particular account for work that needs a two-factor code? Pin it to your watch face for at-a-glance access.
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Beyond complications, 1Password for Apple Watch lets users view custom fields (including multi-line notes) and custom item icons. Users can designate individual items in their 1Password account using their iPhone to have them sync securely to Apple Watch.

In addition, 1Password for Apple Watch supports Markdown for notes, as well as the ability to view passwords in Large Type, making them more comfortable to read on a smaller display.

1Password for Apple Watch is bundled with the iOS app, and those who don't have Automatic App Downloads enabled for their watch can install 1Password from the Watch app on their iPhone.

1Password 8 for iOS is available to download on the App Store. A subscription is required, with individual pricing set at $3.99 per month for unlimited access across several platforms, including iOS, macOS, Windows, Android, and others. A 30-day free trial is available.

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Some things I don’t mind paying a subscription for if, IF I can logically justify it.

I have SiriusXM in my car because I drive all over the state and like to be able to listen to the same stations. Plus as long as they let me have it for $6/mo, I’ll keep it.

As for a password manager? Well $35/year isn’t horrible. It isn’t great either. Tried the free version of LastPass but that only lets you use one device at a time with a limit on switching.
 
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coolbreeze2 said:
Does their website say $2.99 and not $3.99 as this article states?

For those that use this, how is it better than Apple Keychain?
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It is far better than Apple Keychain. So much so that Apple rolled it out to all 100k+ employees internally. It’s the one subscription I happily pay every year because I use it every day.

It allows sharing of passwords in family vaults, built in 30 second rotating MFA codes, stores other info than just passwords (passports, licenses, etc), built in breach checks. The list of features is huge.

Yes, it is a subscription but software development is expensive (My career) so throwing $3 a month at a company for continuous improvement of software I love, I happily do it.
 
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I've been a long-time 1password user, and the subscription model isn't too bad however they do have very justifiable reasons for this.

1password is a cross-platform tool (so significantly more powerful and useful than Keychain). I have a Windows laptop, server, MBP, Android phone and iPhone. All sync without issues, and that's where the sub-model comes in.

That data needs to be stored somewhere and high-security storage is inherently expensive to maintain. Who pays for this? Who pays for the developers constantly delivering updates? Who pays for their business costs? Who pays for their marketing, research and more? Do you think it's all free?

A one-time fee simply doesn't provide the necessary income to support this. A subscription model does, plus it allows users always to receive the latest version of the software.

When I first started using 1password (v2), I paid for each new version. As an existing user, I got discounts but not everyone does this however, older versions still need to be supported which is not cost-effective.

With a sub-model, you are supporting your favourite software. You are supporting the development and future of the product, and you are paying for the ongoing costs.

You can of course pay a one-off fee to get the full version of 1password, but you won't have access to the cloud features and cross-platform capabilities. You also won't get support when a new version is released.

So before whining about subscription models, how about you look at why the economics of products have changed? You want cloud features. You want constant updates. You want 24/7 support. You want it across all your devices.

It was a very different world in software development before this. Only Windows and Mac versions existed. Sometimes it was just the one. There were fewer updates. You didn't expect the developers to support a cloud platform. You also had lower support expectations as you didn't expect a reply within the day.

Oh, and you moan about subscription costs yet everyone is completely oblivious to the fact that we all laughed at the iPhones launch price of $600, yet nobody bats an eyelid today spending $1600 on today's 13 Pro Max....(double the cost if you were to value it in today's money).

And the Apple Watch complication is pointless. I personally won't use it ever.
 
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coolbreeze2 said:
Yea me too. I'm starting to get perturbed by everything nowadays being subscription-based.
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Then go open source and use a Passbolt....but then you have to host it somewhere. And you get little if any support. And then you get fewer updates. And it's clunky. And doesn't support MFA very well.

Who do you think pays for all the lovely product features that you want?
 
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Lee_Bo said:
Well unfortunately this is what the future is going to. Everything will become subscription based.
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It depends on the product. If you want cloud support, how do you think the costs are covered? Subscription.

If you want a continual stream of updates, how do you think this is covered and paid for? Subscription.

If you want good customer support, how do you think this is paid for? Subscription.

If you want a free product, go open source and deal with all the complications that come with that.
 
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After my recently purchase of an Apple Watch, I switched every password from Bitwarder to Apple Keychain and every 2FA from Authy to Apple Keychain, strengthening my Apple main passwords. Now it's simpler, cheaper and easier to use. Can't understand why should I use and Montly pay 1Password honesty.
 
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1Password is great. I decided to go for them since people seemd happy with the easy of use, among other things, and it hasn't failed me yet. They also continually update the software and the support seems responsive and helpful.

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After my recently purchase of an Apple Watch, I switched every password from Bitwarder to Apple Keychain and every 2FA from Authy to Apple Keychain, strengthening my Apple main passwords. Now it's simpler, cheaper and easier to use. Can't understand why should I use and Montly pay 1Password honesty.
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Do you use Windows or other non-apple devices? If yes, how do you deal with passwords there?
 
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Account25476 said:
After my recently purchase of an Apple Watch, I switched every password from Bitwarder to Apple Keychain and every 2FA from Authy to Apple Keychain, strengthening my Apple main passwords. Now it's simpler, cheaper and easier to use. Can't understand why should I use and Montly pay 1Password honesty.
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If you magically ignored posts 11 and 12 you may want to look at the website of the company to understand what differentiates them from free solutions.
 
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coolbreeze2 said:
Does their website say $2.99 and not $3.99 as this article states?

For those that use this, how is it better than Apple Keychain?
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It's better if you ever have to use windows machines or android phones. You can also store notes/files/images and have them all securely in one place, vs just passwords in Apple's solution.

Lee_Bo said:
Well unfortunately this is what the future is going to. Everything will become subscription based.
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Unfortunately Apple is the one that forced developers into this. Back in the pre-iPhone days, you could build an application in 1997 for Win95 and it would still run it on 2022 hardware on Windows 10. On Apple's hardware you can build an app using the latest tools from last year, and it won't even build in the next version of xcode a year later. You also have to maintain your dev account for $100 each year to keep an app on the store. And to make it worse, if you don't update your app in a random amount of time, Apple reserves the right to remove it, even if there are no issues running it. Think about it like this - a housing developer builds a house up to code as of that year. This would be like them having to come back and tear into the walls to increase the gauge of wiring every year it changes, or else they tear your house down.

That means every developer has a fixed cost for every app they build, to keep it "up to date" with tooling changes. This makes sense for most apps, IE a todo list, or a calendar app, since Apple continuously adds new modes for them to operate in. But take a game - Wolf3D is a complete piece of software. If it was released for the original iPhone, it would have been removed 5 years ago because it wasn't recompiled for 64 bit processors. Games for the original iPhone have just been eradicated, the only way to play them is if you stuffed your old iPhone in a drawer and didn't update it (Or more recently if they have been revived for Apple Arcade.)

So that leads us to what options developers have. In traditional, outside the app store software, developers can offer upgrade pricing. IE if you own 1Password 7, buy 1Password 8 for 50% off. Or you just keep using 1Password 7. But Apple does not provide a mechanism for upgrade pricing on the app store. Alas, we are left with subscriptions.
 
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coolbreeze2 said:
Yea me too. I'm starting to get perturbed by everything nowadays being subscription-based.
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I feel that if people STOP subscribing, they’ll start to lose money and go back to a single one time payment. I can’t even download a exercise app without have to get a subscription.

The users have the power to put an end to this everything is a subscription crap.
 
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Won't be long before the Agile employees or minions will be along to defend the latest offering, like they always do everytime they release an update and want to justify a charge for it. Long-time 1Password user from the very early days... switched to Bitwarden (Windows) and Keychain. Reminder: Keychain supports MF Codes
 
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