jiggie2g said:
Hector you are just the most stubborn Mac Zealot i've ever seen ,but you do work for Apple afterall. I swear If you weren't English i'd take you for a crazy Evangelical Protestant Bush Voter.
Here's your truth why Apple is getting shafted by IBM on the G5's it's because of you fave software company M$. IBM is putting so much of it's resources into the Xbox 2 and also Cell that's it's streached thin for R&D on the G5. Let's face it the PPC970 was never created for the sole purpose of Apple , there is no real profit in it for IBM with Apple having almost no marketshare. Think about it boys why would IBM spend 3 billion on the fish kills fab plant and R&D to make the PPC 970 just to bail Apples ass out of the hole Motorolla left them in. What's in it for IBM.
That stuff was all IBM and M$ because they are the BIG buyer of PPC970's not Apple and not for just IBM's Blade Servers. Apple was simply the benificiary of a side deal they cut with IBM. Right place Right time.
Also where do people get off saying the DC AMD/Intel machines are gonna be $2500-3000 . when the Pentium D is only on average $80 more then it's single core counterpart. Only the Pentium EE 840 will cost liek $700-800 per cpu.
I expect the same trend with AMD , no way AMD would price them selves out of the competitive markets this is why they are putting out the Lowend stuff 1st Athlon 64 X2 4200+(dual 2ghz 2x 512K L2) ,4400+(dual 2.2ghz 2x512k L2) , 4600(dual 2.4ghz 2x512 L2) and finally 4800+(dual 2.4ghz 2x1MB L2). so they can't all be priced at $700. the lowend 4200+ will prob be around $250-280.
I expect come christmas time you will see these in $1199 PC's at best buy.
this apple zealot has a pc and is typeing this on the thing
sure it's running solaris, but heh.
the point i'm trying to make is that this is speculation and thinksecret is not always right. a dual core 2.4GHz athlon dose not beat a dual 2.5GHz G5 in a benchmark that usually favors the athlon, and the only competition is the dual core opteron and when specing out opteron servers they tend to cost the same as the g5 spec for spec and a dual 2.5GHz g5 should not do too shabbyly against a quad 2.2GHz opteron.
my point on overcloking is entirely valid, it is said that some 50% of customer suport calls are caused by overclocking. if doen correctly overclocking can have great benefit, but most n00bs out there just pump up the vcore on stock cooling and think themselves to be a hardcore overclocking king.
i have a dual 500MHz cube with radeon 9700 (oc'd from 450MHz) a 550MHz cube (oc'd from 500MHz), my ibook's cpu is overclocked when i play games or cpu intencive apps to 700MHz (on the fly overclocking with iCook) and the gpu is overclocked 24/7 to 200MHz memory 270MHz core from 166MHz/166MHz, also i linked my airport antenna to all the EM sheilds in my ibook to turn the whole thing into a arial and linked it up to my modem port so i can plug in my external arial (self built) so i can get mammoth range and pick up 9 local networks.
i'd say i have my fair share of hacking skills
my pc which needs an upgrade has a 550MHz slot A athlon OC'd to 650MHz with a peltier on stock voltage and a couple of extra fans on the heatsink, it needs an upgrade and i'll probably buy a sempron 3000+ and a DFI lanparty NF3 250GB and a gig o' ram, OC it to about 2.7GHz (if possible there are some mad Oc's out there) with a nice thermaltake SLK800 HS with a 40CFM fan i have.
the one thing i cannot stand is an AMD fanboy saying how much they will own in a few months/weeks time, AMD are good but are not the end all of hardware, i dont like intel but they win on a fair few benchmarks, every time AMD has leapfrogged intel intel have leapfrogged back some way or annother, the turion is just a heatbinned athlon mobile and the pentium M is a much better chip.
you cant compare home builds to macs and you cant compare OC'd pc's to mac because they are such a minority of the market, if you are happy with such a rig good for you, but it dose not matter for the greater market share and will not put apple out of business, apple would have to loose a billion dollars a year for 5 years before they ran out of money, and they could probably survive for a few more after that.
the ipod is not all thats holding apple together, if it did not exist they would still be turning profits just take a look at there financial quarter, even if mac sales are halfed they would be doing ok.
if anything you are the AMD fanboy.
Timelessblur said:
man you beat me to the Hindenberg explantion on how it was not Hydogen that took it down. Hydrogen is better than helium in almost every way since it has half of wieght of Helium so it has much more lift than helium.
As for the daul 2.5 g5 beating the daul cored AMD thing about it this way the 2.5 g5 has 2 chips count them 2. the AMD has only 1 cpu. So take away the 25% boost the 2.5 g5 gets and the daul processor. The AMD chip is just daul cored but only 1 chip.
the AMD has two fully fledged cores in it, if anything it get an advantage for being dual core because both cores can communicate with each other to share the workload,
if you compare benchmakrs from a dual core 2.4GHz athlon with a dual 2.4GHz opteron i would think they would turn out near identical.
