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I was really surpised myself that installing iTunes 8.0 over 7.7 (not 7.7.1), which was working fine, brought back the crashes. I has assumed until then that there was an iTunes-specific bug in how DRM was being handled. It was that assumption that enticed me to install 8.0 right away, instead of waiting to do it along with the firmware update. I thought I had it all figured out - not so!

I was under the same assumption. I figured it would be the fix we were waiting for, not 2.1.
 
Disabling backups in iTunes

The only thing I am dreading about going to 2.1 is that iTunes forces a backup that I don't think you can stop (unlike the regular backups where you can press the X.) Backups on my system (Windows XP Pro) take hours. Does anyone know if there is a way to bypass the forced backup before the firmware update?

To disable backups:

1. Locate your iTunesPrefs.xml file. It’s usually located in C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Apple Computer\iTunes or C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Apple Computer\iTunes.
Hint: If the folder Application Data does not show up, make sure that hidden files are visible in the Windows Explorer
2. Backup your iTunesPrefs.xml file
3. Open iTunesPrefs.xml using a capable text-editor (e.g. Notepad++, Ultraedit, but not MS Notepad)
4. Search for a section called User Preferences and paste the following snipped into the User Preferences Section after the first <dict>:

<key>DeviceBackupsDisabled</key>
<data>
dHJ1ZQ==
</data>
 
Good news: My 3rd party apps broke yesterday and I didn't restore, electing to just wait for the 2.1. I just installed it and 3rd party apps are all working again.

Of course it remains to be seen if this eliminates the problem and prevents it from happening again.
 
Good news: My 3rd party apps broke yesterday and I didn't restore, electing to just wait for the 2.1. I just installed it and 3rd party apps are all working again.

Of course it remains to be seen if this eliminates the problem and prevents it from happening again.

Thanks for posting, that is just what I wanted to know. I am backing up now to do the upgrade.
 
Good news: My 3rd party apps broke yesterday and I didn't restore, electing to just wait for the 2.1. I just installed it and 3rd party apps are all working again.

Of course it remains to be seen if this eliminates the problem and prevents it from happening again.

With me, when I installed 2.1, the iPod media was back but the apps still crash. So I guess I will have to unsync them and resync. Maybe that will fix it once and for all with me.
 
With me, when I installed 2.1, the iPod media was back but the apps still crash. So I guess I will have to unsync them and resync. Maybe that will fix it once and for all with me.

Weird...let us know if that does it.

That's kind of what I was afraid of - having to do another restore.
 
Weird...let us know if that does it.

That's kind of what I was afraid of - having to do another restore.

Yes, that took car of it. Not only did it fix it, I removed an reinstalled 57 apps in 30 minutes!!! That used to be around 4 hours!!! am highly impressed with 2.1 so far.
 
So ... it's safe to download iTunes 8.0 and upgrade to iPhone 2.1? It won't re-kill our apps/iPod content?

Many thanks to the brave folks who upgraded and checked it out so cowards like me didn't have to risk anything!
 
Just finished upgrading. Checked my signal strength before and after and there is basically no change. Before I got a solid -59 on 3G and a variable -59 to -63 on EDGE. After (ie. w/ 2.1) 3G varies from -57 to -65 and EDGE varies from -61 to -65. I got and get all bars under both EDGE and 3G. But this is home and my signal is fine. It will be inetresting to check the signal when I return to work on Monday. Both were fine there outside, EDGE is marginal (-70ish - 2 bars) in my office and 3G is poor (-99 max and 1 bar or No Service).

Haven't tested DL speed yet.

No problems in the upgrade, but afterwards I still had a problem with apps not updating. Got the "did not load" warning. Had to take each off (uncheck on apps tab) and put back on. Finally I got the iPhone app store to stop reading that there were updates available.

Still have not gotten the one app I downloaded on the phone last week to transfer to the iMac iTunes. Fortunately I only paid .99 for it. Next step is to restart iTunes, reboot puter, etc. to see if that helps.

Glad it all worked out for you Excellerator. It was your post that tipped me on the few apps off and then back on when mine crashed.

I too am very pleased that putting apps on and off is vastly faster! Now to go play - well, I think I'll eat dinner first
 
So ... it's safe to download iTunes 8.0 and upgrade to iPhone 2.1? It won't re-kill our apps/iPod content?

Many thanks to the brave folks who upgraded and checked it out so cowards like me didn't have to risk anything!

Yup, I upgraded to iTunes 8.0 earlier in the week and updated the iPhone software to 2.1 and it has been working fine all day. I don't see the improved battery life that Apple claims 2.1 will improve, but other than that ok so far.
 
I made it until 2.1 without any more app problems :)

And now that 2.1 is installed, all seems to be well. I let my iPhone do one last long backup, but backups are much quicker after the update.
 
Yeah, so far so good. I have added and removed apps from both Itunes on the computer and on the phone. Installs SO much faster even on the phone. I know its only been a few hours, but I think they may have gotten it.
 
POS crashes and anytime i sync it i lose all the apps i've installed or bought, not to mention the pics taken. no wonder apple is second rate to PC. . . . .not to mention itunes is the most user unfriendly program ever written!
 
POS crashes and anytime i sync it i lose all the apps i've installed or bought, not to mention the pics taken. no wonder apple is second rate to PC. . . . .not to mention itunes is the most user unfriendly program ever written!

That has never happened to me. I am running iTunes on a PC running Windows XP Pro. I have a iPhone 3G running the latest firmware. I think something is wrong with your iPhone as that is not normal behavior or else there would be tons of people complain about that issue. You might want to bring it back to the store where you got it and see if there is anything I can do. You probably should also have posted in another thread as 2.0.1 came out a long time ago and the issue people were complaining about back then have long been fixed.
 
Apps won't work on my iPhone

Hi
I tried your suggestion for deleting apops and re-booting ect from your Killed all my apps posting.
Once I rebooted and deleted and reloaded the apps to iTunes. Still no luck.

I had a jail broken iphone (original) that my brother gave me. I was thinking of using it as my phone and restored it. Now none of the apps work. originall I downloaded them through the iphone. Then I followed your advise and deleted them forom my phone and itunes and downloades them to itunes again.... Still no luck.

Has anyone had a similar experience? Since the iphone was updated, how might that have affected the apps?

Any insights?

Thanks,

Nick
 
Okay everybody, I serious need help with my iphone 3g 16gb. Im experiencing the problem im sure we all are my apps will begin to load and then close down.

I just bought my iphone today, plugged it in and it updated to the new version, all seem to be working fine though I hadnt tried the 3rd party apps, I tried them, found the problem and came to here. I tried removing all the apps from my iphone with holding down the home button then pressing the little 'x' buttons. I went onto my itunes and deleted all my apps from itunes. I then synced my iphone downloading an app, put it on and still experienced the problem.

Im currently running Windows Vista. any ideas?
 
Okay everybody, I serious need help with my iphone 3g 16gb. Im experiencing the problem im sure we all are my apps will begin to load and then close down.

I just bought my iphone today, plugged it in and it updated to the new version, all seem to be working fine though I hadnt tried the 3rd party apps, I tried them, found the problem and came to here. I tried removing all the apps from my iphone with holding down the home button then pressing the little 'x' buttons. I went onto my itunes and deleted all my apps from itunes. I then synced my iphone downloading an app, put it on and still experienced the problem.

Im currently running Windows Vista. any ideas?

I’d consider resetting the phone to brand-new state, which you do from iTunes. If you’re running the latest iPhone OS (3.2) then your problem may be unrelated to the 2.x issue.

Also—is the phone jailbroken? That’s not usually harmful in its own right, but some of the customizations people make can hog RAM or otherwise cause problems.
 
I’d consider resetting the phone to brand-new state, which you do from iTunes. If you’re running the latest iPhone OS (3.2) then your problem may be unrelated to the 2.x issue.

Also—is the phone jailbroken? That’s not usually harmful in its own right, but some of the customizations people make can hog RAM or otherwise cause problems.

Pretty sure 3.2 doesn't exist...3.1.2 is the latest.
 
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