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Rot in hell Apple...

I can't believe Apple is doing this. Now my once high end PowerMac 400 MHZ G4 system is too slow compared to a Dual 2.6 G5. Way to screw your loyal customer base Apple!

Does Apple expect me to buy a new machine after only four years of service? Unbelievable!

-Studio

[This post was just a joke]
 
Cool

Although I don't think that they will release them @ MacWorld but rather later in Feb. I'm quite glad that IBM is making this progress.
Glad but not suprised at all. Once upon the time when AIM aliance was puting some effort into PPC, their chips used to scale like mad. Remember how well PPC 603 and 604 scaled in those days. 350 mhz 603/604 were used in Macs when Intel best chips were running around 200-233 Mhz. PPC just scales much better than x86 due to it's superior design and now with IBM at the helm again will probably keep pace with Intel at the fraction of developement cost ;)

Regards
 
Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but

Originally posted by brhmac
BOR-ING!

2.6 GHz?

Dell is putting 2.8 GHz in laptops. And at a thousand bucks. Apple can't even do it for 3 grand.

I don't know if I would call Dell Inspiron 5100 a laptop. You pretty much have to have it plugged in all the time because that wonderful 2.8Ghz P4 processor drains the battery like crazy.
 
Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by studiopix
I can't believe Apple is doing this. Now my once high end PowerMac 400 MHZ G4 system is too slow compared to a Dual 2.6 G5. Way to screw your loyal customer base Apple!

Does Apple expect me to buy a new machine after only four years of service? Unbelievable!

-Studio

Don't tell a joke without a hint of irony, ok? Someone will take it as you are being serious...or are you?

[People, I KNEW that he was only kidding, OK? That's why I said "don't tell a joke without a hint of irony." Gee..... Now, I go back to work with my trusty 2 1/2 year old PowerMac G4 Dual 533MHz ... which is, by the way, the best PowerMac G4 model EVER. No kidding.]
 
A 2.6Ghz G5 processor, that has more megahertz than my new Athlon 3000+ overclocked to 2.5Ghz.

At this rate, AMD & Intel will be start talking about the "megahertz myth" because they will be the slow processors.

I can't even imagine how fast a dual 2.6Ghz G5 processor will be.
 
Re: Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by avus
Don't tell a joke without a hint of irony, ok? Someone will take it as you are being serious...or are you?

No, I was only kidding, I just wanted to get the jump on everyone with a dual G5 and a bad case of buyers remorse. ;)
 
You're out

Originally posted by brhmac
BOR-ING!

2.6 GHz?

Dell is putting 2.8 GHz in laptops. And at a thousand bucks. Apple can't even do it for 3 grand.

Do not compare gold and plastic... Apple is as natural and brilliant as gold and dell is moving into the just marketing game...

Open your mind, see the difference or run away and get your 2.8 GHz, 2.2" thick, 3.5 Kg plastic portable heating. Dude, your buying a system not a box.
 
Re: They will not do all of that.

Originally posted by iShater
With the way Apple works, I doubt we will see the top of the line machine sporting 2.6 GHz chips. They will do what they have always done, up the top of the line and trickle the chips down.

So we might see 2.2GHz top of the line, 2.0Ghz Mid range, 1.8 entry level.

No, that's the way Motorola works.
 
Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by studiopix
I can't believe Apple is doing this. Now my once high end PowerMac 400 MHZ G4 system is too slow compared to a Dual 2.6 G5. Way to screw your loyal customer base Apple!

Does Apple expect me to buy a new machine after only four years of service? Unbelievable!

-Studio

Yeah, my iBook G3 now is sucky thanks to you Apple! Great going! We yell at you when you are too slow, and we yell when you are too fast! ;) :p
 
Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but

Originally posted by brhmac
BOR-ING!

2.6 GHz?

Dell is putting 2.8 GHz in laptops. And at a thousand bucks. Apple can't even do it for 3 grand.

Yes but they are 32 bit POS processors. Plus they will only have like a 400 mhz bus. And if you are truely a mac user you would know about the pipelines, alitvec, and all that good floating point and integer stuff. A 64 bit processor pretty much runs twice as fast as a 32 bit processor. AKA: a 1 ghz 64 bit would run nearly equivalent of a 2 ghz 32 bit. Plus if you have ever used a G5 (especialy the dual) it is worth 2k+ for it.
 
Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but

Originally posted by brhmac
BOR-ING!

2.6 GHz?

Dell is putting 2.8 GHz in laptops. And at a thousand bucks. Apple can't even do it for 3 grand.
Ha ha, you are comparing a 2.8ghz p4 m (that is slower then their centrinos) to a g5? Where were you when people finally relized mhz isn't everything.
 
Wow...this is the best news I have heard in a while....can only hope its true...if it is true, this means we will finally be getting closer and closer to the gap between PowerPC and Intel...now, before anyone yells at me, I know that the PowerPC is much faster than Intel, but the common people on the Wintel side do not know that....so now they will have no excuse to say the "Apple computers are too slow!!!" because they arent!!!!
 
Originally posted by mikeyredk
that would mean
imac lineup(old 130nm processors)
1.6 g5 15"
1.8 g5 17"
2.0 g5 20"

emac
1.25 g4
1.33 g4


ibook
1.25 g4
1.33 g4

powermac
all duals
2.2 g5 dual
2.4 g5 dual
3.6 g5 dual

powerbook(edit: clarify new 90nm processor)
2.0 g5
with diffrent flavors of screen sizes and video cards

I don't see why all of the iMacs can't just have the same specs?? Then they can just be different by screen size.
 
Man, my 667Mhz PB is plugging along quite nicely....I can't even imagine what I would do with a dual 2.6Ghz G5. Seriously.

--DT
 
?

When did Appleinsider get all this "inside" information? Their sources have been chatting it up a lot lately. Do you think they have a bottom dwelling plant over at fishkill?
 
Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but

Originally posted by brhmac
BOR-ING!

2.6 GHz?

Dell is putting 2.8 GHz in laptops. And at a thousand bucks. Apple can't even do it for 3 grand.


Um, yeah okay... whats the battery on that puppy?

And how heavy?

Also we all know apple is better clock for clock on the 970's...

Originally posted by studiopix
I can't believe Apple is doing this. Now my once high end PowerMac 400 MHZ G4 system is too slow compared to a Dual 2.6 G5. Way to screw your loyal customer base Apple!

Does Apple expect me to buy a new machine after only four years of service? Unbelievable!

-Studio

Where have you been... 4 years for a computer is pretty damn good...

And with 'Moore's Law' in play we should be even more ahead... :eek:
 
The iMacs aren't going to get the older 130nm chips for the same reason they don't have them now...supposedly they are too hot for the iMac dome.

But if we hope and assume that the 90nm chips will not be, then the lineup could be:

iMac: Single 2.0 GHz PPC 970 (90nm)

PowerMac: Dual 2.2, Dual 2.4, Dual 2.6

The eMac and iBook lines will move to the IBM 750VX as soon as it's complete. It's essentially a faster, lower powered G4 replacement. All the benefits of the IBM G3, with AltiVec tacked on. And for the eMac and iBook which don't need to go 64-bit until 2005, the perfect chip to keep costs down.
 
Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight
Wow. If this truly happens in January, buyers of the new dual 1.8 G5 will be pissed to see their machines outdated in one month. :eek:

The dual 1.8's will still work then right? So what's problem? Unless you have that, GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME mindset.
 
He he this is why I never a early adopeter for cpu's. We have to remember that apple is still a company who is out to do one thing, make money. They always try to get money out of the early adopeters and right before they make a major update. I still can't wait for 2.6GHz or 3GHz G5's. This way we can officailly beat the PC. The P4 is only going to be up to like 3.4GHz in january. And I don't think that AMD is going to update it's 64-bit processor, for a while. Nothing on the pc really utilizes it now, so why up it.
 
Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by studiopix
I can't believe Apple is doing this. Now my once high end PowerMac 400 MHZ G4 system is too slow compared to a Dual 2.6 G5. Way to screw your loyal customer base Apple!

Does Apple expect me to buy a new machine after only four years of service? Unbelievable!

-Studio

Hey man, if you're going to be knockin' Apple like that, you'd better get yr facts straight first. I mean, the 400mMHz G4 was NEVER the top of the line. :rolleyes:

;)
 
Re: Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but

Originally posted by NusuniAdmin
Yes but they are 32 bit POS processors. Plus they will only have like a 400 mhz bus. And if you are truely a mac user you would know about the pipelines, alitvec, and all that good floating point and integer stuff. A 64 bit processor pretty much runs twice as fast as a 32 bit processor. AKA: a 1 ghz 64 bit would run nearly equivalent of a 2 ghz 32 bit. Plus if you have ever used a G5 (especialy the dual) it is worth 2k+ for it.
Nope, a 64-bit processor is about more memory and bigger numbers.

They are not magically twice as fast, since a lot of 32-bit processors may already be running 64/128-bit pipelines internally.

And the problem with the G4 is entirely bus related, but the 32/36-bit address bus does limit it's life.
 
Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by studiopix
I can't believe Apple is doing this. Now my once high end PowerMac 400 MHZ G4 system is too slow compared to a Dual 2.6 G5. Way to screw your loyal customer base Apple!

Does Apple expect me to buy a new machine after only four years of service? Unbelievable!

-Studio

I'd actually say that 4 years is a good amount of time for a computer. It's still going to be able to run all the things is does now, so why complain. It's just won't be able to do new stuff. So stop your crying.
 
Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but

Originally posted by brhmac
BOR-ING!

2.6 GHz?

Dell is putting 2.8 GHz in laptops. And at a thousand bucks. Apple can't even do it for 3 grand.

The dell your talking about it a oversized, HOT, plastic piece of crap! All it has is a old 32-bit processor that sucks battery life and generates a astonshing amount of heat. Apple whoops dell any day. Not to mention all the do it put parts in plastic boxes.
 
Originally posted by itsbetteronamac
This way we can officailly beat the PC. The P4 is only going to be up to like 3.4GHz in january. And I don't think that AMD is going to update it's 64-bit processor, for a while. Nothing on the pc really utilizes it now, so why up it.

What makes you think they won't update the opteron soon? Its already been bumped up from 2.0 to 2.2 <which beats the G5 single and dual> Windows XP will be out soon in 64 bit and you could say the same thing about a Mac and 64 bit not being utilized for it now.
 
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