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Originally posted by Dippo
I don't see why all of the iMacs can't just have the same specs?? Then they can just be different by screen size.

increased product diffrentiation
 
Originally posted by mikeyredk
that would mean
imac lineup(old 130nm processors)
1.6 g5 15"
1.8 g5 17"
2.0 g5 20"

The "Old" 130nm processors will be bigger, and therefor more expensive, and therefor will NOT be used in an iMac.

Besides, they probably need the smaller, cooler processor for heat and space (less heat sink) issues in that little dome...
 
This has to be true

This has to be true. I completely believe this rumor. IBM is consistently been ahead of the curve on processor speed and fabrication technique... and you can bet your arse that Stevie wouldn't say "we'll hit 3GHz in one year" unless he absoluetly, positively, completly, totally, believed it. That, in turn, meant that Big Blue could say CONSERVATIVELY that they would have no less than 3.0 GHz no later than June/July 2004. That also means that we COULD see better. My guess is we will!

Many of these rumors have stated that we'd see a slight improvement over the obvious 2.5/3.0 revisions to be 2.6/3.2 GHz. To me, that makes plenty of sense.

I don't know about you folks, but a dual 2.6 or 3.2 GHz G5 would be enough for me to buy a new machine. That's damn fast. Think about this: a 1.3 or 1.6 GHz system bus, when less than a year ago the thought of 200 Mhz was a pipedream.

Sweet.
 
Ich will G5 iMac! Ja!

Originally posted by Ensoniq
The iMacs aren't going to get the older 130nm chips for the same reason they don't have them now...supposedly they are too hot for the iMac dome.

But if we hope and assume that the 90nm chips will not be, then the lineup could be:

iMac: Single 2.0 GHz PPC 970 (90nm)

PowerMac: Dual 2.2, Dual 2.4, Dual 2.6

The eMac and iBook lines will move to the IBM 750VX as soon as it's complete. It's essentially a faster, lower powered G4 replacement. All the benefits of the IBM G3, with AltiVec tacked on. And for the eMac and iBook which don't need to go 64-bit until 2005, the perfect chip to keep costs down.

This is SO encouraging. Waiting for a G5 iMac is tough! Even if it means a different form factor to accomodate the cooling needs of a G5, I really want this machine!
 
Re: Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by avus
Don't tell a joke without a hint of irony, ok? Someone will take it as you are being serious...or are you?

Dude, senseofhumor 6.1 was released last month.
 
Originally posted by leet1
What makes you think they won't update the opteron soon? Its already been bumped up from 2.0 to 2.2 <which beats the G5 single and dual> Windows XP will be out soon in 64 bit and you could say the same thing about a Mac and 64 bit not being utilized for it now.

The new mp g5 will probobly end up being faster then the opteron at first. The opteon will surpass the g5 with annother update, and it will likely be neck and neck for a while.

If amd isnt able to keep up with ibm and apple they will be left behind very quickly at their current speeds.

From my understanding the mac OS doesnt really require dirrect support the 64 bit addres space(and wont have it untill all macs are 64bit). As long as the 64bit chip is there it is not very dificult to take advantage of all the ram. ie, a highend app like photoshop could have 2 threads that each use about 4 gigs of ram.
 
Re: Ich will G5 iMac! Ja!

Originally posted by MegaSignal
This is SO encouraging. Waiting for a G5 iMac is tough! Even if it means a different form factor to accomodate the cooling needs of a G5, I really want this machine!

I love the fact that the eMac and iMac take so little space and are so powerful, a G5 in an iMac would be my upgrade point also. :)
 
Re: Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but

Originally posted by NusuniAdmin
A 64 bit processor pretty much runs twice as fast as a 32 bit processor. AKA: a 1 ghz 64 bit would run nearly equivalent of a 2 ghz 32 bit. Plus if you have ever used a G5 (especialy the dual) it is worth 2k+ for it.

A 64-bit processor is not necessarily twice as fast as a 32-bit processor at the same clockspeed. While a G5 on most things is nearly twice as fast as a P4 at the same clock speed (but not everything), it isn't simply a function of the bit width. See http://www.arstechnica.com/cpu/03q1/x86-64/x86-64-1.html
 
Thunk Different

Originally posted by leet1
What makes you think they won't update the opteron soon? Its already been bumped up from 2.0 to 2.2 <which beats the G5 single and dual> Windows XP will be out soon in 64 bit and you could say the same thing about a Mac and 64 bit not being utilized for it now.

I agree but the problem with 64bit Windows is that unless you have 64bit applications to run on it, it runs in a 32bit subsystem with all the thunking problems we had with WindowsNT and 32->16bit thunking. Unless M$ can persuade all the application vendors to produce 64bit versions and in turn they can persuade their users to upgrade then WinXP 64bit is merely a tech preview for the early adopters before the next OS comes out.

Apple doesn't have that problem as the G5 itself does the work and there is a much more gradual upgrade path for both developers and users.

if the rumour is true and IBM are producing 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 90nm in volume, are we going to see the base machine hop up to a 2.2 single cpu or are they going to keep on 130nm chips in the lineup? That's what's puzzling me just now. So glad I've not got the cash together to buy that dual 2.0 I was planning on yet.
 
Re: This has to be true

Originally posted by Frobozz
Think about this: a 1.3 or 1.6 GHz system bus, when less than a year ago the thought of 200 Mhz was a pipedream.

Yeah, but will the system bus be able to keep up with the processor at these speeds? 1.3 GHz sounds a little unrealistic to me. This rumour centers around the processor, but what about the rest of the system?

LP
 
Originally posted by crees!
The dual 1.8's will still work then right? So what's problem? Unless you have that, GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME mindset.

Well, as an owner of a single 1.8, I can't say that I'm pissed off. I still have a computer everyone drools over, and will for another two or three years (at which time it will be time to buy the PowerMac G6 12 GHz/4 GB/1 TB with OS X 10.6, with holographic display, 7th dimensional memory core, and optional levitation).
 
Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Studio was joking,, sorry..
funny now that I think about it.
 
Re: Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by lindmar
4 YEARS!!!!! Are you nuts?
If your g4 400 lasted you 2 years you should be happy!! That is exactly 1 year longer than a pc would have lasted.


Don't bring that into this, because your stating false facts :rolleyes:
 
, and will for another two or three years (at which time it will be time to buy the PowerMac G6 12 GHz/4 GB/1 TB with OS X 10.6, with holographic display, 7th dimensional memory core, and optional levitation). [/B]


We can only hope :)
Although, I beg to differ,, I see...
PowerMac G6 Dual 12 GHZ/ 64 GB RAM, 2.5 TB HD, running OSX 10.8.2 Raging Bull, with multidimensional holographic display, and levitation will be standard. Although, human beaming via Bluetooth Multi Extreme will be optional.
 
Re: Re: Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by leet1
Don't bring that into this, because your stating false facts :rolleyes:

No, I hate to say it but my we bought a pc roughly a year ago, which was fast for the first few months, and always taken care of. Now it is a slug, and my g3 b/w will run circles around it.
 
Re: Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by lindmar
4 YEARS!!!!! Are you nuts?
If your g4 400 lasted you 2 years you should be happy!! That is exactly 1 year longer than a pc would have lasted.

As well, buying a computer every 4 years does not make you their target consumer by any means. you are on the low end of anything they produce. They know the chances of a guy like you buying are slim to non....

You should upgrade your mac when your ready to but geezzz dont complain about getting "only 4 years" out of your computer!!!! What did you expect? They would release the g4 400 and say "thats it, computers will officially not go any faster"

You know what , you should have a chat with the folks that bought the new g5's 1.6's and 1.8's,,, then see how it feels to not be top of the line anymore...

man, that post got me going...im all fired up... that just drives me....

By the way,, I still run a B/W g3 400, great computer had for over "4" years and just recentley bought a new g4 ibook, you dont see my complaining,, only thing I complain about is crappy iKlear,,

please read before you post,

he was kidding
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by lindmar
No, I hate to say it but my we bought a pc roughly a year ago, which was fast for the first few months, and always taken care of. Now it is a slug, and my g3 b/w will run circles around it.

I don't see a G3 running circles around a one year old PC. My 1ghz Athlon could run circles and do high jumps over the top of the line G3 ;) Its 2 years old :D
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by leet1
I don't see a G3 running circles around a one year old PC. My 1ghz Athlon could run circles and do high jumps over the top of the line G3 ;) Its 2 years old :D

yeah, your prob. right
sorry, just dont like my dads pc..
it is slower then crap
 
Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by studiopix
I can't believe Apple is doing this. Now my once high end PowerMac 400 MHZ G4 system is too slow compared to a Dual 2.6 G5. Way to screw your loyal customer base Apple!

Does Apple expect me to buy a new machine after only four years of service? Unbelievable!

-Studio

What!?

whats your problem.. after 4 years.. no one is forcing you to buy a better machine.

what do you expect apple not to release new hardware.

get a reality check.
 
Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but

Originally posted by brhmac
BOR-ING!

2.6 GHz?

Dell is putting 2.8 GHz in laptops. And at a thousand bucks. Apple can't even do it for 3 grand.

Christ on a cracker...

You'd think that anyone reading these forums would know to not fall for the PC-heads' blather about megahertz. Somehow I think that a P4-M and a G5 aren't really in the same league...
 
Re: Re: Rot in hell Apple...

Originally posted by adamfilip
What!?

whats your problem.. after 4 years.. no one is forcing you to buy a better machine.

what do you expect apple not to release new hardware.

get a reality check.

Im with you, i dont think he was joking!
 
well I guess Apple will be able to start running those "world's fastest computer" commercials in Europe again ;)


to all those who are giving studiopix a hard time: CHILL OUT
there are concepts that have been recently developed called SARCASM and JOKING AROUNG that might interest you :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by tny
Well, as an owner of a single 1.8, I can't say that I'm pissed off. I still have a computer everyone drools over, and will for another two or three years (at which time it will be time to buy the PowerMac G6 12 GHz/4 GB/1 TB with OS X 10.6, with holographic display, 7th dimensional memory core, and optional levitation).

Exactly. I have a 1.25Ghz Powerbook. Want to know the expression on my face? A big ol' smile. I'll be out of college in 1 1/2 years. This Powerbook will serve me just perfect till then. Then at that time I'll be in the market for a PowerMac, which would hopefully be around 4Ghz or so. :D
 
My G4 400 mhz is still under warranty...hmmm a dual 2.6 looks like itll have an untimely death.. now i have to make up a story to tell the insurance.. i was carrying it around when it accidently fell out the window.
 
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