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i'm sure they have a thousand workers scavenging rumor sites so they saw the TS/MacRumors article and thought "Well, we screwed them over the past 6 months, let's delay it one more day for kicks!" :rolleyes:
 
yoman said:
As a previous poster said. Airport Express wasn't announced till Noon EDT. So in theory it is still possible for the Powermacs to receive an update today. Here's hoping :rolleyes:

Unless a conference or other Steve keynote is going on that day (like yesterday for example), the updates are always rolled out by 9:00am ET. We'll just have to wait to see on Wednesday now...
 
rumormongering

Even if the 2.6Ghz Dual is true...why would anyone rumor it comes with a 9600XT instead of a 9800XT ? Or even R800 ?

Blech.

Still means delivery in August.
 
Damn!

Well here on the west coast it is 9:05 and no updates at all...the only thing I did notice different was in the "hot news" section at around 8:00 they added that somebody was elected to the board of directors...not at all what we were hoping for
 
Zoidberg wants updates!

Enough already, bring on the updates!
what did we do to deserve such treatment? We just want to spend loads of cash on new stuff!!!! Steve, if you or one of your "people" are reading these.....your losing precious interest on my money!!
 
dr.Zoidberg said:
Enough already, bring on the updates!
what did we do to deserve such treatment? We just want to spend loads of cash on new stuff!!!! Steve, if you or one of your "people" are reading these.....your losing precious interest on my money!!

Did anyone else read Zoidberg's post in their head with the real Zoidberg's voice? :p
 

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CmdrLaForge said:
I thought there are boxes saying "DON't OPEN BEFORE THE 8TH ?"

It is the 8th - so maybe someone could have a look ??? Would be great.

Thanks

Well, actually they did open them and inside was another box labeled don't open till June 28th.
 
dopefiend said:
Did anyone else read Zoidberg's post in their head with the real Zoidberg's voice? :p

OH Man thats too funny....im still laughin

HOOORAY FOR NEW G5s!!
 
I Guess The Only Way A PM Refresh Will Happen Is When We Least Expect It

I Guess The Only Way A PM Refresh Will Happen Is When We Least Expect It. Until yesterday, I was expecting it to happen at the WWDC. Then last night I got update fever with that Think Secret promise and now I am all anticipated out again. With less than 3 weeks to the Stevenote, seems like these updates could happen any day before or not until Steve tells us himself on the 28th. The video card rumor is very disheartening.

FYI, if ya gotta have one cheap right now, the store SAVE page has refurbished dual 1.8 GHz G5 for $1999 and dual 2 GHz G5 for $2399 right now.
 
Rustus Maximus said:
Well, actually they did open them and inside was another box labeled don't open till June 28th.
those rumors reminded me alot of last year and i wouldnt expect them to be true remember the white boxes that said 970 0n the side i think its bs
 
yoman said:
well I guess this rumor had 1% reality and 99%smoke.

Once again our heads are found cast down...

Once again we are Rev.B PowerMacless...

Once again no joy is in our hearts...
And, once again: A source said that the company's plans called for an announcement of the long-awaited G5 refresh on Tuesday, June 8, but stressed that announcement dates for speed bumps could easily be shifted to a later date in the week; other indicators suggested that may indeed be the case.
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I can't wait for "another one" to demand a quad powermac be released today just because of a small line at the bottom of one of ThinkSecret's articles.


sun-ice said:
Since "=" is comutative, A=B <=> B=A... this is definition... :)
a good question is:
A square (A) is (=) a rectangle (B), but is a rectangle a square (i.e. does B = A)? And I contest: Almost never. A rectangle is a four-sided polygon whose intersecting sides meet at π/2 rads. A square has all the characteristics of a square, but all four sides have identical lengths. A rectangle does not need to meet that condition to be a rectangle. Thus, a rectangle is not always a square, and thus B ≠ A. (B=A if and only if the rectangle is a square.)

That has to be my favorite geometry question: A square is a rectangle...but is a rectangle a square?


dopefiend said:
You should be shot for making me read that at 7:35a.m. :p
LOL!
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re: rumored video cards

Um.. the latest rumors said that the top end would ship with a Radeon 9600 XT and everyone is pissed off.
The CURRENT top end SHIPS WITH, as in, by default ships with, a Radeon 9600 PRO.

IF the new machines shipped with a 9600 XT this would be a faster video card. The rumor about the addition of the XT makes no mention of the Radeon 9800 being dropped as a BTO option. The Radeon 9600 XT as the fastest standard config also doesn't mean the Apple won't announce X800 or Nvidia 5900 BTO support at the same time, or by WWDC.

The Radeon 9600 XT is a fast card. If there a choice between a 9600xt and a 9800Pro for $200 more (there currently a bigger $$ difference between the 9600 pro and 9800 pro BTO), I'd stick with the XT. It's clocked quite a bit higher than the 9800 Pro... usually 500MHz to 380MHz, which takes away some of the advantage the 9800 has in being an 8 pipeline card.
 
sun-ice said:
Since "=" is comutative, A=B <=> B=A... this is definition... :)
a good question is:

A*B = C

but B*A = C ? :confused:

if you take matrix, for exemple, it could be wrong... if A is a col (n) and B a row (n), A*B is a matrix (n,n) and B*A if a numbre like exp(4*Pi)+sqrt(ln(2)) (for exemple of course)... :D :D :D :D

Then there's vectors (which, I guess are related to matrices). When multiplied one way A•B=B•A. When multiplying another way, A x B ≠ B x A. Math, math, lovely, lovely math. Given dy^2/d^2x - 3dy/dx +2y=0, then y=c1e^x+c2e^2x.

King Cobra said:
A square (A) is (=) a rectangle (B), but is a rectangle a square (i.e. does B = A)?

That's a case of bad symbolic logic, not a paradox. A≠B, A
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B. Translated into English: A is a subset of B. O' course, English is a pretty poor language for expressing logic. To many connotations and subjective interpretations.

Edit: Please excuse the proceeding if the morning should find it to be illogical, offensive, or otherwise unnecessary. I am punch-drunk from insomnia and just coming off of a Differential Equations test. Ergo, I cannot guarantee the sanity, coherence, relevance, concordance, dissonance, resonance, arrogance, diction, spelling, syntax, logic, punctuation, or normalcy of the above.
 
StrangeQuark said:
Then there's vectors (which, I guess are related to matrices). When multiplied one way A•B=B•A. When multiplying another way, A x B ≠ B x A. Math, math, lovely, lovely math. Given dy^2/d^2x - 3dy/dx +2y=0, then y=c1e^x+c2e^2x.
I think your calculus is a little off. Looks like you have the differential solution correct, but dy^2/d^2x should be d^2y/dx^2. Gotta like Calculus notation. I was going to suggest the vector product situation as well, but I figured that since matricies were brought up already, there's no need to bring up u x v vs. v x u.


A is a subset of B. O' course, English is a pretty poor language for expressing logic. To many connotations and subjective interpretations.
Tell me about it. I can never get above an 89% on any of my English essays anymore. There's always something that's either missing/left out, not explained clearly, not explained correctly, or misrepresented.


I am punch-drunk from insomnia and just coming off of a Differential Equations test.
I got one better for ya: I confirmed that your above differential solution is correct, and I haven't even taken differential equations in college yet. (I'm still in Calculus C, but I've heard that DE is hard, so I've been practicing a bit.)
 
WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CALCULUS IN A G5 RUMOR THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[edit: if you contionue I will report all of your posts, there is a thread someone started that is ABOUT calculus, go post in there NOT IN HERE!]
 
King Cobra said:
I think your calculus is a little off. Looks like you have the differential solution correct, but dy^2/d^2x should be d^2y/dx^2. Gotta like Calculus notation. I was going to suggest the vector product situation as well, but I figured that since matricies were brought up already, there's no need to bring up u x v vs. v x u.



Tell me about it. I can never get above an 89% on any of my English essays anymore. There's always something that's either missing/left out, not explained clearly, not explained correctly, or misrepresented.



I got one better for ya: I confirmed that your above differential solution is correct, and I haven't even taken differential equations in college yet. (I'm still in Calculus C, but I've heard that DE is hard, so I've been practicing a bit.)

Darn, I hate that notation anyway. I should've stuck with y'', y', and y. DE isn't too terrible. It kind of depends on how you think. Most of the really horrendous stuff is in the Algebra and Calculus. The DE techniques themselves are pretty cool, it's just that you tend to run into things like multiple integration by parts when you actually solve them (choose u and dv, and it turns out that dv must by integrated by parts). How did you confirm? Did you use m substitution, or did you differentiate my answer and substitute back in? As for English, great language for poetry, pathetic language for hard analysis. We need something like Poul Anderson's Temporal.

Edit (To place this back on topic and avoid being smote): That spread looks a little bit wide, doesn't it? I'm curious as to why there's no 2.2 model, or something to break up that huge 500MHz gap between mid and high end. Anyone know if there's been a case of this large a spread, percentage-wise, before?
 
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