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20" and 24" iMacs Due Mid-to-Late Summer

imac/cheese said:
I am thinking there is a possibility for a second HDD because with TimeMachine coming out with leopard in October, I expect Apple could use the second HDD to show that they are making a new machine that will effectively use a lot of the features coming out with the new OS. You are right though that it would be a challenge to put it in a "smiller" machine.
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Yeah, I think Apple Engineers are pushing the limits as it is in terms of phsycial space usage and heat dissapation in the iMac, let alone of the thing is going to be even more compact now! A second HDD doesn't seem feasible to me, although your suggestion regarding Time Machine does make some sense. On the one hand, why promote such a feature in Leopard if you don't have machines which can natively take advanatge of it? But on the other hand, you'll never see 2 internal HDDs in a MacBook or a MacBook Pro for a long time, and the iMac in many repsects is a non-portable portable ;) so why would it be any different? Of course, the iMac is supposed to be all about minimalism and simplicity, and it doesn't make things very minimal if you have to have a big external HDD cabled to your iMac all the time for Time Machine. ;)

So, I see arguments on btoh sides, but my common sense and Engineering background tell me it probably won't happen. ;) :cool:
 
I am waiting for the new iMac. This site is called MacRumors for a reason. Complaining about rumors on a rumors site seems like peeing in the wind. It's not called Applesalreadyout.com.

Please come soon new iMac, and don't look ugly.
 
~Shard~ said:
I think it will be interesting to see how Apple handles the whole video card issue. The first order of business during Steve's WWDC keynote was to promote how Apple is attempting to take gaming more seriously on the Mac due to its new partnerships and the like. However bringing more games to the Mac, optimizing them, etc. means nothing if you don't properly outfit your machines to handle these games! Many people do not want to have to buy a Mac Pro just for games. An iMac would be/should be an excellent solution for games as well, however it all comes down to how Apple addresses issues like which video card to include and such. I guess we'll get a good indication of how serious Apple truly is about gaming with this new iMac release. :cool:

And for that matter, the Mac Pros could use some updates graphics cards as well... :rolleyes:
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I think this is an excellent point. With Apple's new dedication to gaming, they have to offer something other than the Mac Pro, and non-upgradability is not attractive to most gamers.
 
I sold my PowerMac G4 a month ago and am still waiting!!

I sold my powermac G4 about a month ago, hoping to buy the new imac. Still waiting. In the mean time, I am using my work laptop - a Dell Latitude D600 - what a hellish computer. With all the security stuff that my employer has loaded on it, it takes about 24 minutes to boot up.
 
If this is true this sucks, since when my brother is getting married he was goign to take the computor and we were going to have and buy an imac 24" but if there getting a new style, guess i can wait since school is not starting for awhile
 
I don't get why anyone wants/expects touchscreens in this iMac. Try holding your arms in front of you, pointing at/dragging things around on the screen for an hour. See how comfortable that is. And if it's just for the occasional "reach up and touch an icon" to launch an app, why add several hundred dollars' worth of tech for such a limited use?
 
WannaGoMac said:
Totally. One big problem for gaming iMacs, what do you do when in 1-2yr your video card sucks? Game companies won't slow down because Macs are built like washing machines -- by washing machines I mean single purposed non-upgradeable devices.

It would be great if they somehow get the video card to be upgradeable.
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That's an excellent point as well. The iMac, as an AIO, is not really designed for gaming due to that very issue - serious gamers need to upgrade their video cards frequently and do not want to have to throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak i.e. get rid of their entire computer just because one part needs upgrading. Therein lies one of the fundamental flaws with using an AIO as a gaming machine. So once again, how is Apple going to address this? We've seen small strides in the portable world, with the MacBook Pro having user-upgradeable HDDs now, not just RAM, so will we see something similar for the iMac? Or what if the physical design of it and how the components are organized inside simply not allow for this? If the latter is indeed the case, then I fail to see how the iMac can be a serious option for active gamers. Casual gamers, sure, but for more demanding ones, not a chance.
 
~Shard~ said:
A second HDD doesn't seem feasible to me, although your suggestion regarding Time Machine does make some sense. On the one hand, why promote such a feature in Leopard if you don't have machines which can natively take advanatge of it? :cool:
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My guess is there will be a new device "Time Machine Wireless backup" which will look like the current Express router but will contain a 3.5" hardrive and will work wirelessly with your imac.
 
imac/cheese said:
I think this is an excellent point. With Apple's new dedication to gaming, they have to offer something other than the Mac Pro, and non-upgradability is not attractive to most gamers.
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Thanks - read my post above as well which further elaborates on this.

Perhaps a mid-range tower is the answer for gamers? The Mac Pro is too much power and cost for many, an AIO such as the iMac isn't ideal, so perhaps a headless iMac and/or a Mac with some upgradeablity like the Mac Pro is needed to fill the gap between iMac and Mac Pro. Alas, I don't believe such a machine would fit Apple's current model.

And, when it comes down to it, apart form the AIO drawback, the current 24" iMac is a very capable machine and not llight years below the low end Mac Pro. But then again, who wants to spend lots of money on a 24" iMac and have to throw away the entire unit (along with a perfectly functioning 24" display!) in a couple years if the graphic card needs updating, the HDD goes, the SuperDrive dies, etc.?
 
July 22nd Intel Price Cuts

I skimmed through and didn't see it, but does anyone think this could be correlated w/ the planned Intel price cuts to desktop processors on July 22nd? Perhaps we could finally see a desktop processor/mobo in the iMacs??
 
urbanskywalker said:
My guess is there will be a new device "Time Machine Wireless backup" which will look like the current Express router but will contain a 3.5" hardrive and will work wirelessly with your imac.
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An interesting concept. I wonder how long it would take for Time Machine to do its thing though, and how much wireless bandwidth it would rob your system of while it's active. No downloading/torrenting for the user perhaps when Time Mahcine is running! ;) Even with 802.11n speeds, I'm curious how this would work with Time Machine working on a Mac with a 250GB HDD for example... Of course, it isn't backing up everytrhing, every time it runs, but still....
 
iMac

Im new to Mac and have been anticipating the release of the new iMac for over a month. Touch screen isn't for me! Rid of the chin and bring out one good looking new design! I really can't wait... sooner rather than later eh apple?
 
~Shard~ said:
Thanks - read my post above as well which further elaborates on this.

Perhaps a mid-range tower is the answer for gamers? The Mac Pro is too much power and cost for many, an AIO such as the iMac isn't ideal, so perhaps a headless iMac and/or a Mac with some upgradeablity like the Mac Pro is needed to fill the gap between iMac and Mac Pro. Alas, I don't believe such a machine would fit Apple's current model.

And, when it comes down to it, apart form the AIO drawback, the current 24" iMac is a very capable machine and not llight years below the low end Mac Pro. But then again, who wants to spend lots of money on a 24" iMac and have to throw away the entire unit (along with a perfectly functioning 24" display!) in a couple years if the graphic card needs updating, the HDD goes, the SuperDrive dies, etc.?
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I agree that the AIO is not necessarily the best option for gamers. Appleinsider did say this, "Those same people add that the Cupertino-based Mac maker may also have a few smaller surprises in store for fans of its Mac line around the same time." Am I reading too much into smaller surprises for fans of the Mac line or does that sound a lot like a new smaller Mac, maybe a new MacMini or possibly an upgradable Headless mac?
 
DTphonehome said:
I don't get why anyone wants/expects touchscreens in this iMac. Try holding your arms in front of you, pointing at/dragging things around on the screen for an hour. See how comfortable that is. And if it's just for the occasional "reach up and touch an icon" to launch an app, why add several hundred dollars' worth of tech for such a limited use?
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I agree. I'm not sure I'd opt for the touchscreen if it were an option. Plus...after reaching up at the screen for hours and wearing your arm out, you'd have to turn around and reach up one more time to clean all of those finger prints off. I already spend enough time cleaning my computer screen due to the inadvertent finger prints. I can't imagine what it would look like if I touched the screen all day long.
 
DTphonehome said:
I don't get why anyone wants/expects touchscreens in this iMac. Try holding your arms in front of you, pointing at/dragging things around on the screen for an hour. See how comfortable that is. And if it's just for the occasional "reach up and touch an icon" to launch an app, why add several hundred dollars' worth of tech for such a limited use?
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You're assuming that Apple won't make any major changes to stop that from being an issue. Look at their major devices, and how they made elegant improvements on a basic design that totally changes how people use that class of device.

If Apple were to do this, they won't slap a touch screen on the iMac and call it a day. Maybe the new iMac will lay flat on your desk. Who knows?
 
luke-j-s said:
Im new to Mac and have been anticipating the release of the new iMac for over a month. Touch screen isn't for me! Rid of the chin and bring out one good looking new design! I really can't wait... sooner rather than later eh apple?
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I really don't care about the design, even if it had a double chin! All I care about is being able to upgrade the #*% machine. I am not a hardcore gamer by ANY means but when I do play I prefer to play with "style" with the latest video card.... and to repeat what was said earlier here this capability is the thing that is going to make gamers take this machine seriously..:)
 
I doubt touch screen

One Ohm said:
Touch screen would be very cool... but I'd also like to see One PCI-E slot or at least a ExpressCard Slot.
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I doubt touch screen will ever come for the iMac as a standard option. Here's why:

Picture how people use touch screen devices. They are never in a near-vertical position. Whether it's the transporter controls on Star Trek or an iPhone, the screen is horizontal to tilited about ~20° or so.

Using a vertically oriented touch screen will be even worse for your wrist and finger joints than carpel tunnel from a mouse/keyboard!!!
 
Hoping

Here's hoping they have better graphics options and 4GB Ram support. If so, I'm getting one.
 
If they're dropping the 17", that means SOMETHING has to happen to the mini's, there would be too big a gap! :):):):)(Although I am sad to the see the 17" go, it was either that or a mini for me, and i picked mini)
 
paquetja said:
Call me boring, but I'm hoping they bring back the VESA wall mount capability. A new brushed steel touch screen iMac will look darn good mounted on my wall!
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Okay Mr. Boring . . .

I like the idea of a return of the VESA mount. Whether mounted to a wall or an articulating arm, I would definitely like to see that feature.
 
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