2005 Baseball Season

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by Sayhey, Mar 4, 2005.

  1. Sayhey macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    I thought this might need its own thread, so here is my post from the old thread, MLB Offseason Moves, to start it off.

    OK, since Spring Training is now under way here are my predictions for how the season looks this far out.

    NL West
    1 - San Francisco Giants - they did what they needed in the off season to put them deep into the post season. Bonds and Schmidt must stay healthy.​
    2 - San Diego Padres - a very good young club, especially in their pitching staff and at short.​
    3 - Los Angeles Dodgers - last year's champs lost too much in the off season. Their competitiveness rests on the fragile arm of Brad Penny, the even more fragile body of J.D. Drew, and Derek Lowe pitching like he did in the playoffs for the whole season. ​
    4 - Arizona Diamondbacks - they improved themselves more than any other club, but it is still a long way to the top.​
    5 - Colorado Rockies - other than Todd Helton this is just a very bad team.​

    NL East
    1 - Florida Marlins - with the late addition of Carlos Delgado, this is again a very dangerous team. Look for Mota to have a breakout year as a closer and the starting rotation to get even better.​
    2 - Atlanta Braves - they won't win the division this year, but with the addition of Hudson and Smoltz back in the rotation, they will find a way to compete.​
    3 - Philadelphia Phillies - with just the removal of Larry Bowa this team gets better. With Thome, Abreu, and Rollins this will be an exciting team to watch - just not quite good enough.​
    4 - New York Mets - Will Beltran be as good as he was in the playoffs? I don't think so, more like the .260 hitter he was in the regular season. Still a great addition, but not enough to make the post-season.​
    5 - Washington Nationals - nobody will care in D.C. that they aren't that good as fans flock to see the new team.​

    NL Central
    1 - St. Louis Cardinals - Still the great run producers and they added Mulder. A very good team.​
    2 - Chicago Cubs - a distant second. Nomar better bounce back in a big way for these guys to challenge.​
    3 - Cincinnati Reds - the explosive bats in Cincinnati need more pitching.​
    4 - Houston Astros - suffered more losses than any other team. If Pettitte or Clemens falter with injuries this team could drop to the bottom.​
    5 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Pirates and Brewers fight it out for last place every year. This won't be any different.​
    6 - Milwaukee Brewers - the Colorado Rockies of the Central Division.​

    Wild Card - Atlanta Braves

    Later for the AL and post season picks. :D
  2. Sayhey thread starter macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    AL West
    1 - Seattle Mariners - the addition of Sexson and Beltre will put them over the top in a very close race.​
    2 - Los Angeles Angels - an outfield of Anderson, Finley, and MVP Vladie Guerrero will lead them back into the hunt.​
    3 - Texas Rangers - Young, Blalock, Teixeira, and Soriano have the talent, but they still need more arms.​
    4 - Oakland As - lost too much, but next year as rookies develop?​

    AL East
    1 - New York Yankees - Johnson and Pavano make this staff strong enough to beat the Sox this year.​
    2 - Boston Red Sox - Miller and Wells don't make up for the loss of Pedro and Lowe. Although, I like the addition of Renteria.​
    3 - Baltimore Orioles - Slammin' Sammy won't be good enough to get them passed the Yanks or the Sox​
    4 - Tampa Bay Devil Rays - Does anyone really care if they do better than the Blue Jays? I just wish Rocco was healthy as he added excitement.​
    5 - Toronto Blue Jays - couldn't keep Delgado and they look to sink to the bottom.​

    AL Central
    1 - Minnesota Twins - Pitching, led by Santana, give the Twins the edge in the Central.​
    2 - Detroit Tigers - I like young players like Pena and they also have some catcher called Rodriquez. I think they will do better than most people think.​
    3 - Cleveland Indians - If Juan Gonzalez comes back from injury, they could contend.​
    4 - Chicago White Sox - With Ordoñez and Lee gone they need some pitchers to step up big time. Not out of the question given the veterans in the staff.​
    5 - Kansas City Royals - someone has to be last in Baseball's tightest division.​

    Wild Card - Boston Red Sox.
  3. Sayhey thread starter macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    Post Season

    San Francisco over Atlanta
    St. Louis over Florida

    San Francisco over St. Louis

    Seattle over Boston
    New York over Minnesota

    New York over Seattle

    World Series
    San Francisco over New York in seven.
  4. howard macrumors 68020


    Nov 18, 2002
    I've just been starting to get into baseball again and joined up in a fantasy sports team. Anyone have tips on some players who will be better than usual this year?
  5. dotdotdot macrumors 68020

    Jan 23, 2005
    I'm pretty upset that I haven't been following too much...

    ...in April is my dad's fantasy draft and I always go, then in April later is another fantasy draft which I watch...

    ... those predictions, Sayhay, IMO, are pretty off.


    NL EAST:
    I'm a mets fan and I can say now they are not a 4th place team anymore: New Manager, pretty good moves, and lets not forget their young amazing players who were injured last year, but are still amazing: David Wright and Jose Reyes, plus Kaz Matsui at 2nd will be better than him at SS, and Reyes is natural at SS... the Mets defence is enough to get them out of last to 4th but with the offence, if they don't do too well they will most likely finish in 3rd or 2nd... or the NL east can be horrible like a few years ago and the mets could be 1st - if they are 2nd they WILL NOT win the wild card...

    Atlanta will not win the wild card just as florida will not be in first.

    NL WEST:

    I agree, the Rockies are out - they won't be doing anythinng this year, and the diamondbacks lost too much talent and gained almost nothing to be considered good, so those predictions are correct...

    The Giants are a strong team but won't finish 1st I think, but if they come in 2nd they WILL win the wild card.

    NL Central
    I never liked/followed so no comments there.



    AL EAST:
    The Yankees-Redsox rivalry is, IMO, not as strong now that BoSox won the World Series... it isn't lost though, and Boston WILL be complaining when the Yankees come in first and they come in second but win the wild card and play the yanks in the playoffs but loose...

    the rest of the AL East is weak, the Orioles will be better - but the orioles have the nicest ballpark of them all!

    AL WEST:

    First off, its Anaheim Angels, not the LA Angels... they will be against the Mariners but no contest really... the AL West is weak as well.

    They are pretty good, but kind of too close to call - not really a GOOD devision as much as they all equally suck...

    WORLD SERIES PREDICTIONS Someone in the AL West vs. someone in the NL East... Mariners vs. Atlanta maybe?
  6. Sayhey thread starter macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    They have changed their name again. They are now called the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". Stupid name, I know, but they changed it, not me.
  7. grapes911 Moderator emeritus


    Jul 28, 2003
    Citizens Bank Park
    First off, I'm a Philly fan. I hate the rest of the NL East by that fact alone, espically the Brave because they win and we don't. But how can you not have Atlanta winning the division? I'm not saying they will it, but they win it every year and they may have gotten even better this year.
  8. dotdotdot macrumors 68020

    Jan 23, 2005
    What is that supposed to mean, the Los Angelas Angels Of Anaheim?? lol

    Their Innitials: LAAOA...

    Anaheim Angels was cooler... but Los Angelas Angels works better - the best of both worlds...
  9. yoda13 macrumors 65816


    Sep 26, 2003
    AL West-Anaheim
    AL Central-Minnesota
    AL East-Yankees
    AL Wildcard-Boston

    NL West-Giants
    NL Central-Cards
    NL East-Braves
    NL Wildcard-Marlins

    Both Texas teams could figure into the mix as could both Chicago teams. Don't claim to be an expert, and I am not ready to predict post season matchups or anything, but I thought that I would drop in my two cents. :D
  10. Studawg7 macrumors regular

    May 15, 2004
    Cville, VA
    my prediction (from a crazy Pirates fan)

    April -- Pirates above .500
    Rest of season -- below .500
    Other clubs -- don't care! lol except the yanks, man I like watching them play!

    happens every year, i wish i could buy a ball club!! donations welcome :D
  11. jmsait19 macrumors 6502

    Jan 26, 2004
    Hate to sound bias as I am a Cardinals fan, but Albert Pujols should be at the top of any fantasy lists. He's extremely consistent in hitting everything. He has amazing power to the opposite field. He shows no signs of slowing down. I think taking second to only Bonds in the last two years in the MVP race speaks a little too.

    Another Cards player to look at, call me crazy, Rick Ankiel. He is healthy and his curveball is one of the nastiest I have ever seen, near unhittable. If he gets playing time, he will put up some numbers. Keep your eye on him.
  12. Sayhey thread starter macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    I figure the Braves have to lose the Division sometime, right? :eek:

    Seriously, I like the Marlin's addition of Delgado and Leiter to an already strong team. No team has the speed to match them, their defense is excellent, the starting rotation of Beckett, Burnett, Leiter, Willis, and Valdez, matches up well with anyone, and now they have serious pop in their line up with Delgado and Lowell. What's not to like?
  13. wrc fan macrumors 65816

    wrc fan

    Jan 19, 2003
    In a world where LPs are made like pancakes
    my crazy predictions which will no doubt turn out totally incorrect:

    AL West:

    1. Anaheim
    2. Texas
    3. Seattle
    4. Oakland

    I think Texas and Anaheim will duke it out for 1st, with Anaheim eventually winning out. Oakland will be in last cause their offense sucks the same as it did last year, and their pitching is worse. Seattle will sorta sit alone in third as their team underperforms as usual (Doesn't everyone know Seattle is where good 3rd basemen go to die).

    AL Central:

    1. Minnesota
    2. Detroit
    3. Cleveland
    4. Chicago
    5. Kansas City

    No commentary is really nessesary, Minnestoa is still the best in the central

    AL East:
    1. Boston
    2. New York
    3. Baltimore
    4. Tampa Bay
    5. Toronto

    Boston really isn't hurt by their off season losses. Most of the Red Sox Nation are happy to see Pedro and Lowe gone. Schilling is back. Arroyo is poised to have a breakout season. Clement and Miller are good additions who have the capability to do as well as Pedro and Lowe combined. On offense their only loss is Cabrera, which they promptly replaced with Rentaria. No loss there. Oh did I mention they still have Manny and Ortiz? nuff said.

    New York will finally end up in second place. Randy Johnson alone isn't enough to carry the team, and the rest of their aging stars are not going to be having career years. They will probably win the Wild Card though.


    NL West:

    1. San Francisco
    2. Los Angeles
    3. San Diego
    4. Arizona
    5. Colorado

    Like NY, SF's aging wonders will not pull the team through to the world series. If Penny and Lowe pitch like they can, LA might end up in first.

    NL Central:

    1. St. Louis
    2. the rest will be so far out it doesn't matter

    no commentary neccessary

    NL East:

    1. Atlanta
    2. Florida
    3. Philadelphia
    4. Mets
    5. D.C.

    Atlanta has only gotten better from last season. They will stilll win the east, but they will not get into the World Series. Florida will probably get the wild card.
  14. Pittsax macrumors 6502


    Dec 8, 2004
    Toronto, Ontario
    Hey, looks like I've found another Pirates fan to commiserate with! I'm betting this team is going to be like last year -- they'll be a .500 ballclub, but have one stretch where they go something like 4-24, so they have no shot at actually being above .500.
  15. Bibulous macrumors 6502a

    Jan 19, 2005
    Jeremy Bonderman 20 game winner
  16. Sayhey thread starter macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    I don't get it either. It would be like the Giants moving to Oakland and calling themselves the "San Francisco Giants of Oakland." It's a name tailor-made for selling more merchandise and that's about all. It makes no sense. Anaheim isn't even in LA county much less the city limits. They should've stayed with the "California Angels."
  17. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    I am not a fan of the Red Sox at all but they are better than Seattle and I see another Yankees Red Sox rematch but the Sox don't have the pitching to stop the Yankees this year. As for the Giants making the World Series they need to keep Bonds healthy to have a chance, If he misses any games this year they could be in jeopardy
  18. saabmp3 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 22, 2002
    Tacoma, WA
    Yeah, Seattle got some good players, but it takes more than one season to rebuild and then beat a consistantly good baseball team. Sorry, but its not gonna happen. Red Sox repeat! (Yanks look good this year tho with pitching)

  19. Sayhey thread starter macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    Macnut and saabmp3, I'll be more than happy to argue the wisdom of my fearless predictions, but the purpose of this thread is also to post how you think the season will go. Jump right in guys, the water's fine. ;)

    My Seattle pick is based largely on the impact of Sexson and Beltre to a lineup that already includes such players as Ichiro and Boone. It's not often that a club goes out and picks up both a number three and a number four hitter in the same off season. Both are capable of over 40 homeruns and they transform Seattle into a very potent team. They also are a huge plus on defense. Beltre is a gold glove caliber guy at third and Sexson is very underrated at first.

    My pick of Seattle to beat the Sox in the playoffs comes not only from Seattle's improvements, but also from what I see as a drop off in Boston's pitching prowess. Combine that with the difficulties of repeating and I pick Seattle. Of course, it's all crazy at this point, but that's the fun of it.
  20. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    East Yankees
    Central Twins
    West Anaheim
    Wild Card Red Sox

    East Braves
    Central St Louis
    West Dodgers
    Wild Card Phillies
  21. saabmp3 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 22, 2002
    Tacoma, WA
    But this is more fun. Anyways, I'd like to give my take on ichiro (as I moved to seattle and now see alot of Mariners games). He makes alot of base hits, when it is not in the teams best interest to make a small in field base hit. I've seen other people agree with me on this stance.

    Don't get me wrong, he's a great hitter, but in more than one situation, I've seen him HURT his team (get a intended small in field base hit when an easy sac fly could have scored or advanced another man on base. You can't do that with an infield hit.

    Losing Pedro in Boston will hurt us. He is truly a great pitcher, but he's just not what he used to be. Lowe had a great finish to an awful season. I hate to say it, but everbody knows that it's true. Wells will more than fill the lost pitching the Lowe gave us. Clement isn't all I had hoped seeing in his first pre-season game, but that's probably going to change. Arroyo is coming into his prime now and I expect great things from him this season (15 games??).

    My reason for picking the sox over seattle lies in the pitching quality. Beltre and Sexson are excellent hitters, but the combination of David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and Renteria just puts everything else to shame. Talk about 40 homers each from those guys? I wouldn't be surprised to see 100 homers come out of a combination of these three players. We're talking BIG bats here. Edgar will also add some excellent defense into the infield (better than cabera, but not much. Cabera was an excellent player too IMHO, just not a great hitter).

    To match Ichiro as a lead off man, we have Johnny Damon. Not as many hits, but more extra base hits, usually in crucial times.

    Now, why I think the Sox will win. Their pitching. Seattle just doesn't have it up to snuff this year yet. They got the bats, but as we saw last year with the Yankee's. You can hit as many balls as you want, but without a front line defense (the pitcher), opponents can and will beat you.

    None the less, I'm looking forward to watching alot of good Mariners games. I plan on going to the Boston one and some of the Yankee's too.

  22. Sayhey thread starter macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    All fair points, although I wouldn't count on Renteria for much power. Pick another Bosox player and we will see which trio has more homers at the end of the season. I get to throw in Boone along with Sexson and Beltre, ok? ;) If you guys ever want to get rid of Ichiro, then kindly let Brian Sabean know first, please! As good as Johnny is, there is no real comparison.
  23. saabmp3 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 22, 2002
    Tacoma, WA
    I agree, Edgar isn't going to hit 40, but I think he will double what he did last year (~10 if memory serves me correctly). Johnny - Ichiro (which I just noticed that they're only 13 days apart in age), is harder. Johnny has 20 HR's, a .380 OBP (that's what matters in a lead off spot, getting on base), .477 SLG, .304 AVG, 92 RBI's. Ichiro has 8 HR's, a .414 OBP, .455 SLG and .372 AVG, 60 RBI's. Both excellent stats for a lead off. Ichiro wins in OBP (one of the biggest stats up there) and AVG. However, Johnny's OBP is very respectable (only .034 below) and is made up with a better slugging %. His AVG is much lower than Ichiro's, I don't think any of the stats can make up for that. Here's the kicker, 20 HR's and 92 RBI's. This goes back to what I was saying about Ichiro in the first place. RBIies are what can make and break a game and Johnny just takes the cake here.

    It's a tough comparison, I think I've shown my side of the argument pretty well.

  24. wrc fan macrumors 65816

    wrc fan

    Jan 19, 2003
    In a world where LPs are made like pancakes
    I'd have to agree with saabmp3 regarding Ichiro. Especially last season when he was going for the hits record. He would get stupid dinky little hits that did noting instead of doing a sacrifice to move a runner or score a runner. I'd much rather have people that play for the team rather than themselves. The last four teams to win the world series won because of their team chemistry, not because they had glory seeking players.
  25. Sayhey thread starter macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    Whoa! How'd we get to Ichiro as a selfish, glory-seeking player? oaklandbum, step back from the rivalry and look at a player widely respected as one of the most unique offensive and defensive threats in the game. Playing for a last place team he set an incredible record; breaking one of the most revered records in the game. Many thought Sisler's record couldn't be broken. If you don't like him, ok, but let's respect his game.

    saabmp3, I have nothing against Damon, he is an excellent player and a great leadoff man. I give you the advantage of power on Damon's part, but that is not the most important stat for the role he and Ichiro play. I'll give you one more stat that's relevant. Who do you think led the AL in BA with RISP? Ichiro with .372 average. I don't think that's hurting your team. I like Damon's average as well, in fact he raises his average with RISP to third with a .355 average. He is almost as good as Ichiro. As to sacrifices, if we are to condemn Ichiro for his 3 SF and 2 SH all last year, what are we to say about Damon's figures of 3 SF and 0 SH? For both of these hitters, what their team wants from them is to get on base and cause havoc there. Both are great at it, but Ichiro is better.

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