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2005 NFL Season

LethalWolfe said:
If only he could have his game on and be amazing to watch for 4 quarters instead of one and the Pack might not be 0-4. I was hopping for a last second win too, but their O just is not firin' on all cylinders. At times they look like a bunch of rookies that have never played together.
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Yeah, it would be nice to see the offense come together for a full game, but if finally started to show some promise against Carolina. The O line hasn't been playing well all year and they finally looked like they were starting to figure it out and get Bret some time. It was one hell of a comeback and had the defense gotten on it's game one series earlier Carolina would have missed out on the winning TD.

I'm hoping that this weekend we manage to get 1 for the W column before the bye week so we can recover a bit.

Anyone else notice that the comeback really started after Favre got hit and was limping around? I really think he needs a distraction to play well (broken fingers, and family tragedy seem to lead to Favre playing well). Favre has great instincts, and I am really starting to believe that if he focuses solely on football he over thinks, second guesses and gets into trouble.

Not that it matters too much I'm predicting retirement after next year when he breaks Marino's touchdown record. The pack is a long way from a Super Bowl and as much as Favre says he doesn't want records, he's only 35 TDs away from tying Marino at 420 and barring any injury I think he wants this record to retire on.
 
atszyman said:
I really think he needs a distraction to play well (broken fingers, and family tragedy seem to lead to Favre playing well).
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totally

that's just one of those things that makes him and the nfl special

Drama

Gotta love Brett

Any predictions for my Steelers next monday night in San Diego?

I have no idea what to think about that game

It's a long road trip, Chargers are coming off a big win IN new england, and the Burgh just got beat up by the Pats...so on paper it doesn't look too good.

But I predict the Burgh will be extremely fired up for this one..And the Chargers are going to have to stop three great running backs that will be used in rotation..Combination of speed (parker) Power (Bettis) and Speed and Power (Staley)

I'm concerned about the Burghs pass defense though...Brees could have a big day...we'll see.
 
Alright...

screw Brett Favre and all those damn reporters and announcers who suck is damn nuts. He hasn't come close to bringing the Packers to another superbowl in 8 years.

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Steelers and Chargers are dead even but Chargers will win cuz they're at home. Plus the Steelers suck.

Redskins suck and Denver will shut them out.
 
Cfg5 said:
Redskins suck and Denver will shut them out.
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That's Right!! We'll all see that Shanahan pulled off a great trade in getting Champ and a 2nd rounder (Tatum Bell) for Portis. And how about the four DLinemen from Cleveland? Seems to have turned out pretty well, huh? :)

daniel
 
Dandaman said:
That's Right!! We'll all see that Shanahan pulled off a great trade in getting Champ and a 2nd rounder (Tatum Bell) for Portis. And how about the four DLinemen from Cleveland? Seems to have turned out pretty well, huh? :)

daniel
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People can argue whether Champ or Clinton are overrated, but Denver clearly came out on top. Clinton Portis was brought in to upgrade the offense, and so far he hasn't. Champ's departure hasn't hurt Washington's defense however. Bailey was brought in to upgrade the defense and he has, Denver's running game hasn't dropped off one bit either, which is why they got the better deal.

Those defensive lineman have been playing really well too. Especially Gerard Warren and Courtney Brown.

We'll see how Clinton's homecoming goes...
 
Cfg5 said:
People can argue whether Champ or Clinton are overrated, but Denver clearly came out on top. Clinton Portis was brought in to upgrade the offense, and so far he hasn't. Champ's departure hasn't hurt Washington's defense however. Bailey was brought in to upgrade the defense and he has, Denver's running game hasn't dropped off one bit either, which is why they got the better deal.
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I remember in Champ's last or 2nd-to-last season w/the Skins his left arm got so banged up (wrist and shoulder injuries IIRC) that he basically was Champ-the-armed-corner for most of the season and he was still picking off balls and shutting down his side of the secondary. It was just amazing watching him beat a receiver to the ball and pick it off w/one hand.

Portis in '04 had no chance to do anything 'cause the passing game was nonexistent and the O line was banged up. Pretty hard to run the ball when Ds just stack the box and burn thru your line. Now, w/a healthier O line and a passing game that's starting to find it's way Portis has more freedom to run. End of last season 'Skins were 20th in rushing. Currently they are 6th. The payoff might not have been as fast, but I think Washington will get it's money's worth out of Portis.

Something that's interesting, which you already pointed out, is that neither team was hurt by the trade. The 'Skins D didn't get worse (and still hasn't even after giving up Smoot to the Vikings) and neither did Denver's O (which isn't surprising since Shannan keeps RB's in his trunk).


Lethal
 
The Portis for Bailey trade is pretty much dead even. I wish I could say the same for the Moss for 1st/Harris trade.

Also, I heard Lavar Arrington is essentialy benched now...only playing 2 snaps last week. I think they were saying he freelances too much. Is he gonna get released next year? (His cap figure is 12 million in 2006 :eek: )
 
Cfg5 said:
The Portis for Bailey trade is pretty much dead even. I wish I could say the same for the Moss for 1st/Harris trade.

Also, I heard Lavar Arrington is essentialy benched now...only playing 2 snaps last week. I think they were saying he freelances too much. Is he gonna get released next year? (His cap figure is 12 million in 2006 :eek: )
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Yeah, my jaw dropped when I saw Gibbs say Arrington is pretty much gonna ride the pine. I mean, I guess sense the D is working so well as a unit w/o him on the field, and he is a loss canon at times... but he's a loss canon that can single handedly shift the momentum of the game. I don't think anyone's made anything "official" but the think the unofficial understanding by everyone is that Arrington is gonna play somewhere else next year. I've always liked Arrington, it'll be a shame to see him in different colors next year.


Lethal
 
If (or when) he gets released I wonder if he'll be looking for a fat contract even though he will ride the bench the rest of this season. I wonder where he would go.
 
Cfg5 said:
The Portis for Bailey trade is pretty much dead even.
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True, Washington's D Denver's rushing attack haven't lost a step. But wouldn't you say that the benefits for Denver have been better. Did you see Foxworth and Darrent Williams play? I believe that is a direct result of having Champ teach these young rookies how to be a great corner like himself. I think the Denver D has improved much more than the Washington rushing has.

daniel
 
Yeah the results of it have been kinda weird. Portis came in to DC and rushed for over 1,000 yards, Bailey had a solid season locking down the opposing teams #1 receiver(except Jerry Porter). But Bailey has made the whole defense around him better (locking down the WR so a safety can step into the box) while portis has played good and has done everything he can but hasn't elevated the status of the offense (which rests on the qb more so than rb)
 
Dandaman said:
True, Washington's D Denver's rushing attack haven't lost a step. But wouldn't you say that the benefits for Denver have been better. Did you see Foxworth and Darrent Williams play? I believe that is a direct result of having Champ teach these young rookies how to be a great corner like himself. I think the Denver D has improved much more than the Washington rushing has.

daniel
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Granted it's impossible to do a one-to-one comparison 'cause it's apples to oranges, but I think both teams got what they needed. Baily has elevated Denver's D, and w/only a slight increase in the passing game the 'Skins rushing game has gone from the lower 1/3rd to the top 10. You also have to take the state of the teams into consideration as well. Shanahan<sp?> has had lots of time to tune Denver into a well oiled machine. Washington has been a complete mess for over a decade. Mike has is car in the wind tunnel making areo adjustments and Joe is still lookin' for all the right parts to his car just to get it to start on Sundays. :D

Denver wanted an immediate solution to a problem and got that in Baily. Washington wanted long a term investment they could help build a team around and I think they got that in Portis.

Cfg5,
As far as Arrington goes, I don't think he'll have much problem finding a team that needs a play-making LB.


Lethal
 
GREAT day for the Panthers today... we beat the Cards 24-20 (by the skin of our teeth), AND the other three NFC South teams all lost! Thanks to the Patriots for downing the Falcons, the Jets for making the Bucs walk the plank, and the Packers for damning the Saints (quite badly... 52-3??? wow!).
 
Cfg5 said:
Redskins suck and Denver will shut them out.
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not quite a shut out...

i think the redskins showed that while they aren't going to win it all, they're better than a lot of people give them credit for.

minus a couple botched run defenses, they dominated. and the key is that they could've let it slip out of their grasps late in the 3rd, and didn't, and nearly pulled off a comeback.

quite a game
 
Wish the Was/Den game was on the air in LA, looked like it was a nail biter. Even though the Skins lost, Denver was their toughest opponent yet and htey hung w/them. I think it was a good showing that the Skins are becoming a solid team again and aren't 3-1 from an easy schedule. How many times during the off-season do you think Brunell muttered to himself, "Old man? I'll show you an old!":D That was some nasty weather to put up 300+ yards in. At least the cowboys won (never thought I'd say that) so the Skins are still on top of the NFC West.

Of course, what about the Packers. Talk about letting off some steam. 52-3. Ouch.

Glad to see the Pats win (never been an Atlanta fan), and Jacksonville over Cincy was nice too. Save for the Colts all the unbeatens got beat today.


Lethal
 
Great Monday night game. Too bad the officials tried hard to muck it up. The over-rule on the Hines Ward touchdown was ridiculous. And I think I understand the muff rule on the fair catch, but it seems like that's more designed for when a player bobbles the catch, not when it actually bounces off him towards another player. I mean, when does the opposing player have a chance to recover the ball? Does it have to hit the ground?

But all in all, a great game. LaDanian Tomlinson is for real. The Chargers look like a playoff team, despite having a losing record. Hopefully Roethlisberger will be ok. That was a nasty hit he took to the knee, and based on the movement of the knee, it could very well be an ACL or PCL.

Cincinatti is for real too. Even with the loss, they still look dangerous. A playoff spot in the AFC is going to be tough to get, what with the Colts, Steelers, Chargers, Patriots, Bengals, and Broncos playing so well.

Dave
 
Strongest, Weakest Divisions

So, which is the strongest and weakest division, thus far? I think the weakest is clearly the NFC North, although the NFC West would give them a run for their money. Strongest is probably the surprising NFC East. They've got a chance to send all of their teams to the playoffs, although I'm still not sold on Dallas and Washington being any good. I would say maybe the AFC North too but the Ravens are just playing so damn poorly.

Dave
 
The Pats/Dirty Birds game..

Wow. It was close.. another nail-biter for Pats fans. And I've not seen such a poorly called game in a LONG time, the officiating was just TERRIBLE on both sides of the ball.
 
bad officiating seems to be the theme of the week. the denver/washington game, monday night game, and now hearing about the atl/NE game.

crazy.

and of course it always seems like it goes against "your" team. hah
 
yellow said:
Wow. It was close.. another nail-biter for Pats fans. And I've not seen such a poorly called game in a LONG time, the officiating was just TERRIBLE on both sides of the ball.
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I'm so tired of the Patriots script. Allow a tie in the final 3 minutes, drive down the field, kick the winning field goal. We looked at each other when Finneran caught the 2 point conversion and thought 'here we go again!'
Part of me does admire the Pats, and you do create your own luck, but still, they are the jammiest sods out.

The NFC North might be a weak division although I think the Lions got cheated at Tampa last week, which would have put them at 3-1 although still with little to no offense. The Vikes are the shock in that division though. But I think the NFC West is worse. I'm not sure I can see the Cards/Niners being particularly competitive outside the division whereas at least the North has had a few competitive games against the AFC North. I'm most surprised by the strength of the NFC East where they're all giving the Eagles a run for their money.

The Colts seem finally to have got their defense together although Peyton doesn't look altogether with it for him. And I think they're the most consistently good team at the moment - parity seems most definitely the word of the day otherwise where many of the other teams (particularly in the AFC) could go either way on any given Sunday. Ah well, part of the fun of the game I guess!
 
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