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Dave00 said:
Great Monday night game... I mean, when does the opposing player have a chance to recover the ball? Does it have to hit the ground?
My thoughts exactly on both counts. Bobbling the ball in your hands is one thing, having it bounce completely out of reach is quite another.

Hopefully Roethlisberger will be ok. That was a nasty hit he took to the knee, and based on the movement of the knee, it could very well be an ACL or PCL.
I read he hyper-extended his knee. Much less serious than it looked (thankfully).

The NFC East has really turned it around. At the end of last year only PHI had a winning record and today they are the only division w/o a losing team.

The Colts should finish the season very strong. The are looking the most well rounded in years and, as things look right now, they have a relatively easy schedule.


Lethal
 
LethalWolfe said:
My thoughts exactly on both counts. Bobbling the ball in your hands is one thing, having it bounce completely out of reach is quite another.
I bet this is an issue that gets reviewed in the off-season. Interesting to note that Cowher apparently said it was the right call, based on the rules.

LethalWolfe said:
I read he hyper-extended his knee. Much less serious than it looked (thankfully).
He must just have a real tough body. That's how bad, bad injuries take place, where you foot is planted and you get hit in a joint. There's nothing to absorb the energy but the joint.

LethalWolfe said:
The NFC East has really turned it around. At the end of last year only PHI had a winning record and today they are the only division w/o a losing team.
Lethal
Yeah, if there's a comeback award for a division, the NFC East is it. Other than the Eagles, that was a real sorry division last year. Eli Manning is really benefitting from having Plax on the team. At least, until they finally start calling him for his push-offs.

Dave
 
Ugh... Carolina won today (which is good), but Jake Delhomme continued to make DUMB mistakes which basically kept Detroit in the game... their two TDs were BOTH off Delhomme interceptions. Chris Weinke came in for the Panthers for the final drive and he drove Carolina down the field on 4 passes to Ricky Proehl for a game-winning TD.

We like winning, but the way we're doing it is VERY stressful. ;)
 
Hey, at least the Bears won. Now if they could only play teams with 3-23 records outdoors every week.
 
Cfg5 said:
Denver= second best team in the AFC.

oh yeah!!

hopefully they'll play the rest of the season better than they did the last two. They were 5-1 in the last two seasons but we know how those ended up.

Man, the broncos looked really really good in the first three quarters. I actually enjoy watching their defense play now. I used to be deathly afraid of what big play they were going to give up. Can't wait to have a healthy champ bailey back. Then, we'll really dominate and hopefully be the best team in the AFC.

daniel
 
Dandaman said:
oh yeah!!

hopefully they'll play the rest of the season better than they did the last two. They were 5-1 in the last two seasons but we know how those ended up.

Man, the broncos looked really really good in the first three quarters. I actually enjoy watching their defense play now. I used to be deathly afraid of what big play they were going to give up. Can't wait to have a healthy champ bailey back. Then, we'll really dominate and hopefully be the best team in the AFC.

daniel

Yup, they're looking really good. The next 2 weeks they're at the Giants and at home against the Eagles. Two tough opponents but right now Denver is better than both of them.

In the last 4 games: Denver - 0 turnovers

Also...did anybody watch Tommy Maddox single-handidly(sp) lose the game for the Steelers?
 
Tommy Maddox

I've been watching F ball for a long time now

And I've seen players come out and have a bad day...

But I can't remember a worse performace than Tommy Maddox on Sunday for the Steelers.

It is just so bad because everyone else on the team got it done. it was like Tommy was on a mission to lose.

It still is eating my insides today, Overtime, we win the toss, we run the kickoff all the way back to field goal range, all we have to do is kick the f'n thing and it's over..Tommy drops it. Turnover

Not only that, we still shut down Jax offense and get the ball back!

Tommy throws a pick....game over.

I hope the Burgh can rebound from this...the rest of the team looks solid..but I think Jerome Bettis would have more success at QB than Tommy right now. He absolutely must get demoted to the back back back of the bench...

He loses games...period :(
 
quigleybc said:
I've been watching F ball for a long time now

And I've seen players come out and have a bad day...

But I can't remember a worse performace than Tommy Maddox on Sunday for the Steelers.

It is just so bad because everyone else on the team got it done. it was like Tommy was on a mission to lose.

It still is eating my insides today, Overtime, we win the toss, we run the kickoff all the way back to field goal range, all we have to do is kick the f'n thing and it's over..Tommy drops it. Turnover

Not only that, we still shut down Jax offense and get the ball back!

Tommy throws a pick....game over.

I hope the Burgh can rebound from this...the rest of the team looks solid..but I think Jerome Bettis would have more success at QB than Tommy right now. He absolutely must get demoted to the back back back of the bench...

He loses games...period :(

I'm a Ravens fan...so I hope Roethlisberger is out till the day after Halloween.
 
quigleybc said:
I've been watching F ball for a long time now

And I've seen players come out and have a bad day...

But I can't remember a worse performace than Tommy Maddox on Sunday for the Steelers.

It is just so bad because everyone else on the team got it done. it was like Tommy was on a mission to lose.

It still is eating my insides today, Overtime, we win the toss, we run the kickoff all the way back to field goal range, all we have to do is kick the f'n thing and it's over..Tommy drops it. Turnover

Not only that, we still shut down Jax offense and get the ball back!

Tommy throws a pick....game over.

I hope the Burgh can rebound from this...the rest of the team looks solid..but I think Jerome Bettis would have more success at QB than Tommy right now. He absolutely must get demoted to the back back back of the bench...

He loses games...period :(


Yeah, that was pretty bad. If I'm correct, the fumble in overtime was a shotgun to Maddox. If that's true, why are they doing that? That's a very questionable call. I'd be calling a direct snap to Maddox, then a direct hand off to Bettis. That overtime was truly mind blowing. But still, the more the Jags win, the better that win by the Broncos over the Jags looks. :D

daniel
 
They weren't in shotgun...Maddox took the snap and right when he was backing up (I don't know if he was going to hand it off or throw it) he fumbled. He had a real good chance at getting it back if he would've just fallen on it, but he tried to lean over and pick it up and screwed up.
 
watcher2001 said:
Amen to that one.. I am just worried about Nov 7 when we go play NE on MNF. That will be the true test.

Obviously it would be huge for Peyton to win in New England. However, even if they lose they probably will still get homefield. The Patriots look like a 10-6 team max. The Colts are a 13-3 team minimum.
 
Colts definitely phoned in the first Q. They have a tendency to not play their A game when they are facing weaker teams it almost got them again this time. If Bulger didn't get hurt it would have been a different game (they still might have won, but it wouldn't have been a blowout, IMO). The Colts this year are the most well rounded I've seen them in recent memory, but they got a pretty easy season too. Jacksonville is the only team they've beaten w/a winning record and, as of today's standing, they only have 3 future games against winning teams (Bengals, Steelers, Jags).

For my 'Skins... 3 turnovers. Can't win doing that. Once again the O put up good numbers (haven't said that too much in the past 15yrs), and the D played hard. But turnovers and the inability to prevent big plays cost them again. And being in toughest Division (NFC East) just makes mistakes like those all that more damaging. If only they got to play teams like Houston or the Titans twice a season. ;)

How about Atlanta almost dropping one to the Saints? And how soon do you think the Falcons need to groom a new QB to replace Vick? 'Cause at this rate I don't see Vick last many more seasons.


Lethal
 
lethal- did you read the article on washingtonpost.com about the arrington saga?

i still don't get why he's not in on 3rd and long.... few sacks, no turnovers... sit arrington. seems weird to me
 
wdlove said:
Tedy Bruschi is returning to the Patriots after his stroke. He will be gin practice tomorrow.

I just heard that yesterday! I just hope he doesn't get hurt. I can only assume that he's seen how devastated the NE defense is, and his help is sorely needed. But not at the expense of his health.. I mean, you can't win em all.
 
So, what do you guys think about Cincinnati Bengals and the situation in the AFC North?

Will the Steelers be able to make up the 2 games they're behind?
 
njstaffer said:
So, what do you guys think about Cincinnati Bengals and the situation in the AFC North?

Will the Steelers be able to make up the 2 games they're behind?



I think the Bengals are for real (and it's about time) The Browns are rebuilding slowwwwly. And you never know what you're going to get with the Ravens..at least until they get a good QB (they have Kordell Stewart right? I wanna see him play again, he was funny)

The Burgh...I don't know, Tommy Maddox absolutely can not be allowed to play another down in the NFL. It's as simple as that. I think I was the last Tommy fan out there, and now I've joined the Tommy haters camp.

IF Ben can come out and play well, we will go to the playoffs...Everything is clicking otherwise. Our defense in frightening...I wouldn't want to play us that's for sure. We may lose but our defense is going to hurt you all day..Just ask Harrison from the Pats.

Our number one pick Heath Miller broke out last week and now we have another weapon. And if Duce remembers that he is being payed to play then we will have four dangerous backs. I like our chances in Cinci next week, but not if turnover Tommy plays again..

We have owned the Bengals for years now, we'll see....
 
quigleybc said:
But I can't remember a worse performace than Tommy Maddox on Sunday for the Steelers.
Oh, but see we've been spoiled. Ask Chicago or Washington fans if they've ever seen a quarterback play that badly. ;)

Agreed he had an absolutely dreadful game. He just didn't have it, there were few passes that were crisp. Part of the problem was being without Hines Ward, of course. Hopefully Ward & Big Ben will both be at full strength for Cinci, I think we'll need it. Actually I think the main thing we need to do against Cinci is promote Jerome Bettis back to starter, and just let him pound it at that run defense. Here's hoping that Johnson and his big fat mouth catch 3 passes for 8 yards. :)

Dave
 
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