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2007 Formula One Thread

I know that Hamilton has done fantastic, but he has been building up to this role for many years now. He has had full support from McLaren for the last 11 years and he has impressed at every level, the way he drove in GP2 last year was brilliant. I was lucky enough to see him at Silverstone last year when he pulled some amazing moves around the Becketts complex and he was totally committed.

My opinion is why would anyone expect anything different. In the way he has driven for the last 11 years he is a very natural driver and with the support of McLaren the progression into Formula One was a natural one and he showed full commitment in the second best car on the grid.

Keep up the good work Lewis, you are a fantastic driver and I hope all this over-reaction by the media does not affect you.
 
What the heck is Briatore doing bad mouthing Kovalainen? It sounds like a little tantrum from Flav. Fisi has done well at Melburne before and then sucked for the rest of the season. He'll probably fade away like he did last year. I think it's far to early to judge Heikki's performance.
 
R.Youden said:
Keep up the good work Lewis, you are a fantastic driver and I hope all this over-reaction by the media does not affect you.
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Seriously though, which bit is an overreaction? Hamilton's in a great car, but you can have a great car and not do as well he did.

When someone comes along and puts in a performance like that, people take notice. That's not overreaction, that's simply reaction.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
What the heck is Briatore doing bad mouthing Kovalainen? It sounds like a little tantrum from Flav. Fisi has done well at Melburne before and then sucked for the rest of the season. He'll probably fade away like he did last year. I think it's far to early to judge Heikki's performance.
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Shouldn't come as any surprise though, it was a bad race for Kovalainen and Briatore doesn't exactly have a reputation as a conservative when it comes to expressing his opinion.
 
AlBDamned said:
Seriously though, which bit is an overreaction? Hamilton's in a great car, but you can have a great car and not do as well he did.

When someone comes along and puts in a performance like that, people take notice. That's not overreaction, that's simply reaction.
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I guess we will have to disagree on this one!

I was thinking about this again last night. He has been groomed for this role for 11 years or something and he has had the same amount of time in that car as Alosno. Also if you consider that the best two cars where the Ferrari and Mclarens there was a small race between the 4 of them. With Massa starting last he wasn't involved in the 'mini race' which Hamilton finished last in.

Plus if you look at Rosberg last year, he came in as GP2 champion, had a great result in Bahrain where he set the fastest lap of the race in a non-competative car. GP2 is such a competitive series that it is just as good as a season with a back-marker team.
 
R.Youden said:
I guess we will have to disagree on this one!

I was thinking about this again last night. He has been groomed for this role for 11 years or something and he has had the same amount of time in that car as Alosno. Also if you consider that the best two cars where the Ferrari and Mclarens there was a small race between the 4 of them. With Massa starting last he wasn't involved in the 'mini race' which Hamilton finished last in.
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I do see where you're coming from and agree with you in the sense that Hamilton has been groomed since he was 10 (there was a great featurette on him after the GP yesterday) and he's had a lot of experience in the car and it seems to be a damn good car and in the mini race at the top he came last. That's all fair enough.

I just think it's a bit unfair to say he's been overhyped and doesn't deserve all the coverage he got. The majority of F1 drivers start when they're the age he did, lots of drivers have gone to quick teams to start with, but few have come in with a debut drive like that.

It's too early to say whether he can last at that pace for the whole of his first season, but I really don't think you could ask more of him in a first race and as such it was thoroughly refreshing to see.

If he does continue to drive and place like that all season, then I'd be happy for him to continue to get as much coverage as he has.

He seems like a decent guy as well. Kimi might be lightening quick but i really cannot stand his public persona, or his seriously lacking sportsmanship for that matter.
 
AlBDamned said:
I just think it's a bit unfair to say he's been overhyped and doesn't deserve all the coverage he got. The majority of F1 drivers start when they're the age he did, lots of drivers have gone to quick teams to start with, but few have come in with a debut drive like that.
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I think we have got cross-wired here. I am not saying that he doesn't deserve all the attention he is getting. What I am saying is that it is how the attention is being portrayed.

I don't know if you watch the ITV coverage but the one thing I can't stand is James Allen. He is the biggest brown noser in the world! I respect Martin Brundle for his knowledge of F1 and when he gave his "driver of the day" to Rosberg (I think) I was glad that someone saw through the hype and realised that there are 21 other guys on the grid who are trying to compete at the same level.

Yes he did well, yes he will win races, yes he probably will win world championships, but that is all in the future.

To his credit he competed very well against Alonso, but there where races that Fissi had the better of Alonso in previous years but that doesn't make Fissi the next big thing. Drivers often have a good first few races and die down. Jean Alesi springs to mind, as does Nico Rosberg.
 
If pictures could tell 1000 words!

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I hate British F1 drivers. They are always over rated, over hyped and under performers. LH had a good race, a good debut and I cant take that away from the lad, but all of a sudden he's the next world champion, the best driver the world has even seen and he drove better than Kimi yesterday. (WTF?)

I've seen all this hype somewhere before, hmmmm, Jenson Button I think the lad was called. Aint seen anything of him for a while though. :rolleyes:
 
Markleshark said:
I hate British F1 drivers. They are always over rated, over hyped and under performers. LH had a good race, a good debut and I cant take that away from the lad, but all of a sudden he's the next world champion, the best driver the world has even seen and he drove better than Kimi yesterday. (WTF?)

I've seen all this hype somewhere before, hmmmm, Jenson Button I think the lad was called. Aint seen anything of him for a while though. :rolleyes:
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I don't recall Button finishing 3rd in his first year, let alone first race.

I agree that the media attention is irritating and over the top, but if you watched him in GP2 you have to admit that Hamilton is an amazing driver.

With regards to British drivers being overhyped, every country hypes it's own drivers. Even Sato gets hyped in Japan.
 
Markleshark said:
I've seen all this hype somewhere before, hmmmm, Jenson Button I think the lad was called. Aint seen anything of him for a while though. :rolleyes:
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Apart from the highest point scorer from the final 1/3 of last season....

I don't think it is the drivers fault. As usual I think the press have a lot to answer for. We need a truly great driver to come out of the UK soon.

If we look at the past British F1 champions we have:

Damon Hill - 1996 - Nothing special, good solid smooth driver. Right place, right time. Similar to Jenson Button really

Nigel Mansell - 1992 - Again, nothing special. He had great fight and a never say die attitude but didn't get anything out of a car unless it was really quick.

James Hunt - 1976 - Only won because Lauda tried to cook himself!


Then we get into the truly great British Drivers:

Jackie Stewart
Jimmy Clark
Graham Hill
John Surtees
Mike Hawthorn

As the country which is the home of Formula One we need a new great driver and the press just jump at anything that moves on 4 wheels and can be proclaimed as British.

That is not the drivers fault.
 
If the British public are so desperate for success, why don't the media just run a few articles about how pretty much all of the teams are based in or conduct a lot of work in the UK, no matter where they claim to be from?
 
Markleshark said:
I hate British F1 drivers. They are always over rated, over hyped and under performers. LH had a good race, a good debut and I cant take that away from the lad, but all of a sudden he's the next world champion, the best driver the world has even seen and he drove better than Kimi yesterday. (WTF?)

I've seen all this hype somewhere before, hmmmm, Jenson Button I think the lad was called. Aint seen anything of him for a while though. :rolleyes:
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Jensen who? :p
Yeah, LH certainly impressed everyone coming out and driving so well. Personally, i had heard/read nothing on him, so i was surprised to see him performing so well. That said, it's only one race so the press can say whatever they want but i won't be sold on him until he keeps it up for half a dozen races.

I'm glad Kimi did so well (boring though it made the race). I've always liked him, but hated Ferrari, so i have no allegiance yet this season. Pretty unimpressed by Renault so far.
 
It couldn't possibly be a new season without big Ron having a go at Ferrari.

He is now saying that the floor on the Ferrari is designed to lower at high speed and therefore provides greater top speed. This would therefore be a movable aerodynamic structure and illegal (in the same way that Rensult's mass damper was an aerodynamic piece!).

And apparently Kimi spun at the end of the race but ITV didn't bother to show it because they where on an advert break!

And I am really started to get pissed off with James Allen. From now on I will mute the TV and listen to Radio Five for coverage. That bloke is almost worse than Mark Blundell! What are ITV thinking of.

Rant for the day over.
 
R.Youden said:
He is now saying that the floor on the Ferrari is designed to lower at high speed and therefore provides greater top speed. This would therefore be a movable aerodynamic structure and illegal (in the same way that Rensult's mass damper was an aerodynamic piece!).
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And not just Ferrari apparently.

It was the same at the start of last season... with allegations that Ferrari had a flexible undertray that could stall the airflow, thus increasing top speed.

As for ITV. :rolleyes: I've still never forgiven them for Imola '05. :mad:
 
R.Youden said:
And I am really started to get pissed off with James Allen. From now on I will mute the TV and listen to Radio Five for coverage. That bloke is almost worse than Mark Blundell! What are ITV thinking of.
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ALMOST worse?! James Allen is the biggest fool on television.

ITV should hire a new team, the Eurosport teams are my favourite (especially the MotoGP duo), if only F1 was on Eurosport as well.
 
I always enjoy the commentary of the dude that does the SBK and MotoGP on BBC. The guy with the sort of low, raspy voice. He is especially good when there's plenty of action. Anybody know his name?

Nothing beat Murray though! :D

I miss the good ol' days when F1 was still on the Beeb!
 
The best commentators (not F1 but hey) are the BBC rugby ones. It is hilarious as they always disagree forcefully at least one a game
 
mfacey said:
I miss the good ol' days when F1 was still on the Beeb!
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I don't know... the BBC frequently wouldn't show races live, and often wouldn't even show qualifying.

That and the commentating was often sub-par because the BBC didn't always send Walker and Hunt to the actual races so they'd only commentate on what was actually happening on the screen of the TV in some closet in BBC Television Centre that they were watching like the rest of us. :rolleyes: :p

The most irritating thing about ITV's coverage (except the **** Allen) is their insistance on commercial breaks. I don't see the same on their football coverage for example. And considering F1 is nothing but advertisements, you know... really do we need anymore?

Or at the very least, they should be able to continue to broadcast the race in a small box picture-in-picture whilst the ad's are on, and stipulate this as a condition to advertisers.
 
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