Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
2007 Formula One Thread
- Thread starter R.Youden
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
The live timing is actually a lot better than listening to James Allen talking utter rubbish for 90 minutes every other weekend!
Also, I know Trulli was racing but he was being an idiot with Hamilton. He should have just let Hamilton get away and leave it at that. Also the team did wait far far too long, you could see the canvas of the tyre about 3 laps before he span. Opps.
Also, I know Trulli was racing but he was being an idiot with Hamilton. He should have just let Hamilton get away and leave it at that. Also the team did wait far far too long, you could see the canvas of the tyre about 3 laps before he span. Opps.
Here's hoping.
Or Raikkonen has an engine blowup and Alonso crashes on the oil...
Great race; but how the Mclaren engineers didn't see this tyre damage i will never know. It was apparent at least 2 laps before the accident!
Wow, I didn't see that angle on TV here but that's pretty severe. Shame it now has to come to the final race, but it does make things more interesting.
Counterfit said:
FAN BOY!
I was wondering, do you guys support a specific team or a specific driver? Personally I support the McLaren team and no specific driver.
I like the "mistakes". Do you think that maybe this was an effort to show Alonso that they make mistakes regarding Hamilton too......
I think McLaren would love to show Ferrari that they can beat them by winning the drivers championship.
It's an idea...
Seriously, though, don't think they'd jeopardize anything like that. But it was a pretty big mistake to make at such a pivotal moment. Bit like Mortlock missing that kick last night
I was half asleep through most of the race, but I can't believe they were willing to take a risk so big just to keep him out. It was plainly obvious that he was falling apart and they took out Alonso's tyres!
Yep — Kimi should've secured the title already, but what can you do if your car's hydraylics let you down twice down the road. That unreliability means about 20 points advantage to Hamilton, who only has retired once for team stupidity. Same kind of stupidity cost Kimi points in Monaco, but there seems to always be at least one bogus race in the season and that just has to be accepted.
I hate this current points system which means reliability is everything. Victory is not valuable anymore. Back in 80's when not all races count there was a lot more racing going on. In my opinion F1 can have as many races during the season but only so many should be counted in to the championship. Say 10-12 or so. That would reward victors no matter the points system.
Pole is a joke as well, but that's another irrelevant story because they don't give points to the "fastest". In my opinion F1 should get back to the old qualifying rules, perhaps modifying it so only 10 fastest on friday quali would be allowed to enter the saturday quali, but whatever the change the race fuel load must go. It makes qualifyin boring, it is not even worth watching!
Ok, enough off-topic...
EDIT: checked out the facts. During 1985-1990 only 11 best results of 16 races were counted. That was a mighty interesting era! Since 1991 every race was counted and victory earned 10 popints instead of 9 — and that has been boring.
1991 was Senna's year, 1992 Mansell's and 1993 Prost's domination. Nobody could touch them. 1994-1995 had racing between Schumacher and Hill, but Schumi won because he bent the rules and didn't get caught. Had Senna not died in 1994 that would've been Senna domination again for many years, because 1992-1997 Williams had the invincible car and Senna finally got that in 1994, which ultimately wasn't a good move for him. So, that would have been 7 years of boring F1 had Senna not lost his life. Instead it was only 5 boring years as the Schumi-Hill battles were the most interesting racing since 1990 and old rules.
(speculation)Perhaps there would not ever have been the Schumacher era if Senna had not died in 1994, because a lot of Schumi's Ferrari domination was built with the personnel he got used to during the Bennetton years. If that wasn't success, most probably not many of them had followed him to Ferrari.(/speculation)
After the boring 6-year Williams-domination era FIA introduced groove tyres, which gave McLaren a chance, because after all they have always been good in getting used to new regulations faster than others. 1998-1999 saw good racing between Häkkinen and Schumi, but that was it, the rest of the series was boring. And we all know what happened between 2000 and 2004, nothing much, because Schumi took it all. FIA tried its best to make things more interesting and introduced a new points system in 2003, but that made things even less interesting because after the first season with new rules drivers got over-careful and began to fear making mistakes instead of driving boldly to the victory.
(speculation)This might become third time Kimi loses the championship title due to car unreliability. Or because Germany doesn't suit finns; each time (2003/2005/2007) a DNF in Germany due to car unreliability.(/speculation)
I know, I sound like old fart that longs back to one's youth. But the fact is, I enjoyed watching F1 racing more during the 80's when finnish drivers were not winning rather than now that Kimi is fighting for the title for the third time. There is very little racing in F1 today.
Or Raikkonen has an engine blowup and Alonso crashes on the oil...
He's not with McLaren anymore
It'll be Hamilton's engine that blows in the last race...
That's one way of putting it.
It's an interesting point. Hakkinen is one of my favourite drivers ever, it was criminal the car problems he had which made him want to retire and the world was worse off for it (Makinen was also amazing in the rallying).
It's just a shame Kimi has the personality of turnip.
Well from what I understand Senna wanted to go to Ferrari in '94 but they said that their car was so bad it wasn't worth it and to come back in '96.
We all know what happened in '94 and the natural replacement for Senna in '96 was Schui so it could have turned out a lot different!
They brought out tyres in unnamed warmers. Because it didn't say 'Hamilton' on them Ted Kravits assumed they were Alonso's.
FAN BOY!
I was wondering, do you guys support a specific team or a specific driver? Personally I support the McLaren team and no specific driver.
only one team!!! scuderia ferrari !!! alonso is a suker.. he keeps ranting abt everything!! last year he was complain ing abt how renault wasnt supporting him cause he was leavin them and now this!!! he's a great racer but an even bigger sucker!!!!!
Me too. Did you know Häkkinen was going to move to Williams in 1993? Too bad Williams had some trouble with FIA and to be able to enter the championship Frank needed to have all other teams' support for participating in the series; but Lotus boss Peter Collins didn't want to let Häkkinen go, so he made an ultimatum: "Want Häkkinen? Come back in 1994. Want to race in 1993? Do not sign Häkkinen." So he was forced to let Mika go to McLaren and take Prost instead.
Back then I wondered what would the world look like if that had happened. For sure he would have won the 1993 championship but would it also mean he would have driven "the Senna car" in 1994 Imola race? You never know. But imagine what Mika could have done with the 1993-1997 Williams
Your opinion
OTOH, nobody has seen Kimi in a winning team yet. I thought he had it in 2005, but unreliable car and bad team mate were just too much. Maybe he'll "develop" a personality once he has it all?FAN BOY!
I was wondering, do you guys support a specific team or a specific driver? Personally I support the McLaren team and no specific driver.
I support McLaren alsov (but i do have a fondness for Hamilton), I even told that to a guy at shell who was showing me around their fuel development site for Ferrari, he didn't look best pleased.
ferrari seems to be missin ross brawn very badly though.. this year's reliability is soo bad and their strategy got messed up lotsa times hopefully he'll be back next year and i srsly dont wanna see alonso in a ferrari !! NEVER!!!!! hope he ends up without a drive for next year!! or worse ends up with a team like toyota!! look wat its done wit ralf!!
hopefully he'll be back next year and i srsly dont wanna see alonso in a ferrari !! NEVER!!!!! hope he ends up without a drive for next year!! or worse ends up with a team like toyota!! look wat its done wit ralf!!